Z06 Exhaust on LS3 - Dyno Results?
#1
Z06 Exhaust on LS3 - Dyno Results?
Has anyone installed a complete Z exhaust on a stock LS3 and run it (before and after) on the rollers yet? Looking for some concrete performance changes between the two. Anyone?
#4
Safety Car
Here is a link to JBSBlownC5(Joel)'s LS3 with the Z06 mufflers added (many bolt on mods) - http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...ull-video.html.
Here is another link for a LS2 & full Z06 exhaust system - http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...s-project.html.
I have a C6 LS2 supercharged. I gained +41 rwhp and +24 rwtq with the full Z06 manifolds, cats, H-pipe & Corsa Sports + retune. Recently, I've added the Z06 mufflers with the NPP In a Box.
Here is another link for a LS2 & full Z06 exhaust system - http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...s-project.html.
I have a C6 LS2 supercharged. I gained +41 rwhp and +24 rwtq with the full Z06 manifolds, cats, H-pipe & Corsa Sports + retune. Recently, I've added the Z06 mufflers with the NPP In a Box.
Last edited by Keith N; 01-29-2009 at 10:58 PM.
#5
Advanced
Hey Keith N, were you able to use the same 02 sensor wires or did you use the Z06 length wires? I'm putting mine on this weekend. Looking forward to seeing the difference. FWIW, mines an LS2.
#7
There's enough extra length hiding under the tape wrap to make the distance... At least there was on my '08.
#9
Safety Car
The same 02 sensors were used. I had the full Z06 exhaust installed by a shop. Good luck, I'm sure you'll be happy with the results.
#10
Burning Brakes
I know not everyone has the NPP from the factory on their LS3 but if you do I would suggest putting the money for the Z06 mufflers somewhere else and keep your NPP as it is because you really will not pick up much if any.
#11
Well, I was non-NPP to start with, so that was a gain for me, but the LS7 manifolds are much better than the cast iron LS3 units. On top of that, the cats should flow better, and the system is 3 inch vs. 2.5... All that should add up to some horsepower gains over even the NPP LS3. Apparently no one has run the car on the track or rollers before and after to get some real numbers from a completely stock car. Maybe we can all pitch in a few bucks for dyno time to the next guy who is going to do this mod?
#12
Drifting
Retuned?
When installing the Z06 complete exhaust system on the LS2,did you have to retune the car? Just curious.I am sure it will pass the smog check here in L.A.,which will mean you won't have to reinstall the stock exhaust every 2years.What a pain.That may be the solution to the R& R every 2 years.:fla g:
#13
Safety Car
Member Since: Sep 2007
Location: Los Alamitos California
Posts: 4,359
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes
on
6 Posts
St. Jude Donor '09
Well, I was non-NPP to start with, so that was a gain for me, but the LS7 manifolds are much better than the cast iron LS3 units. On top of that, the cats should flow better, and the system is 3 inch vs. 2.5... All that should add up to some horsepower gains over even the NPP LS3. Apparently no one has run the car on the track or rollers before and after to get some real numbers from a completely stock car. Maybe we can all pitch in a few bucks for dyno time to the next guy who is going to do this mod?
San
#14
Safety Car
Member Since: Sep 2007
Location: Los Alamitos California
Posts: 4,359
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes
on
6 Posts
St. Jude Donor '09
When installing the Z06 complete exhaust system on the LS2,did you have to retune the car? Just curious.I am sure it will pass the smog check here in L.A.,which will mean you won't have to reinstall the stock exhaust every 2years.What a pain.That may be the solution to the R& R every 2 years.:fla g:
San
#15
Safety Car
When installing the Z06 complete exhaust system on the LS2,did you have to retune the car? Just curious.I am sure it will pass the smog check here in L.A.,which will mean you won't have to reinstall the stock exhaust every 2years.What a pain.That may be the solution to the R& R every 2 years.:fla g:
#16
Burning Brakes
Well, I was non-NPP to start with, so that was a gain for me, but the LS7 manifolds are much better than the cast iron LS3 units. On top of that, the cats should flow better, and the system is 3 inch vs. 2.5... All that should add up to some horsepower gains over even the NPP LS3. Apparently no one has run the car on the track or rollers before and after to get some real numbers from a completely stock car. Maybe we can all pitch in a few bucks for dyno time to the next guy who is going to do this mod?
Well the problem is that yes the manifolds are better and the cats and the H-Pipe because they are 3in pipe. BUT the mufflers neck down to 2 1/2in when it enters the mufflers and the Exhaust system only flows as good as the smallest section.
So yes you might pick up some over Non-NPP exhaust or over the LS2 exhaust but not much because of where the pipe necks down to 2 1/2.
#17
Burning Brakes
Member Since: Dec 2007
Location: The Villages Florida
Posts: 1,030
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Well the problem is that yes the manifolds are better and the cats and the H-Pipe because they are 3in pipe. BUT the mufflers neck down to 2 1/2in when it enters the mufflers and the Exhaust system only flows as good as the smallest section.
So yes you might pick up some over Non-NPP exhaust or over the LS2 exhaust but not much because of where the pipe necks down to 2 1/2.
So yes you might pick up some over Non-NPP exhaust or over the LS2 exhaust but not much because of where the pipe necks down to 2 1/2.
The sound difference alone is worth it when compared to stock exhaust. IF you get a good price from a member or the auction sites. There are good ones out there and IF packed properly they will arrive without damage.
#18
Safety Car
Member Since: Aug 2005
Location: Eastern NC; Retired x 2 (US Army: 70-90 AD) (US Army: 91-16 DAC); yea, I'm old.
Posts: 4,278
Received 76 Likes
on
42 Posts
I installed a complete Z06 exhaust from manifolds to tips recently and it was one of the best things I have done.
I was able to pick up the manifolds, gaskets, cats and h-pipe for $175 and the mufflers for $460; I also bought all of the seals, bolts and nuts for the entire system from my local Chevy dealer ($120) just in case something broke or was missing.
I had the system installed and during the installation it was determined that the stock O2 sensor wires were not long enough (I had not bought extension wires or Z06 sensors...) but the tech make custom extensions and wrapped them in sheathing to look like OEM. The installation and custom work cost $900 and all totalled, the entire system cost $1,655; I also added the Mild2Wild for $150 bringing the final total to $1,805.
I am completely happy with the setup; the Z06 manifolds are like shorty headers and the sound is deep and throaty. With the exception of the 02 sensors, they are a perfect fit to the LS2. I had it re-tuned to adjust the A/F ration due to the increased airflow.
I was able to pick up the manifolds, gaskets, cats and h-pipe for $175 and the mufflers for $460; I also bought all of the seals, bolts and nuts for the entire system from my local Chevy dealer ($120) just in case something broke or was missing.
I had the system installed and during the installation it was determined that the stock O2 sensor wires were not long enough (I had not bought extension wires or Z06 sensors...) but the tech make custom extensions and wrapped them in sheathing to look like OEM. The installation and custom work cost $900 and all totalled, the entire system cost $1,655; I also added the Mild2Wild for $150 bringing the final total to $1,805.
I am completely happy with the setup; the Z06 manifolds are like shorty headers and the sound is deep and throaty. With the exception of the 02 sensors, they are a perfect fit to the LS2. I had it re-tuned to adjust the A/F ration due to the increased airflow.
Last edited by LJD51; 01-31-2009 at 11:23 AM.
#19
Well the problem is that yes the manifolds are better and the cats and the H-Pipe because they are 3in pipe. BUT the mufflers neck down to 2 1/2in when it enters the mufflers and the Exhaust system only flows as good as the smallest section.
So yes you might pick up some over Non-NPP exhaust or over the LS2 exhaust but not much because of where the pipe necks down to 2 1/2.
So yes you might pick up some over Non-NPP exhaust or over the LS2 exhaust but not much because of where the pipe necks down to 2 1/2.
#20
I've been in California my whole life, and I can't believe ANY smog tech will fail you on a visual inspection for the Z system. As for (test) performance, as long as the o2 sensors function and the cats light off, it will pass. Just don't mention the exhaust has been changed and you will be fine. IMO.