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Old 12-27-2011, 03:47 PM
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Ok, I guess my first question is why GM installs a 2.73 rear differential on the automatic version of the 6.2 liter LS3, and offers a 3:43 rear diff. for the 6 speed manual, is there a limitation that forces them to do this. My second question is has anyone successfully swapped these? The cost is approximately 1500.00 including labor and I would hate to get halfway through it and find out the hard way it cant be done. Naturally I called GM service and they had no clue.
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PS: I realize the obvious solutioin was to get the 6 sp. manual but I liked the paddle shifter of the Automatic, plus got a good deal on the Automatic Grand Sport, even with the cost of the swap!! lol
Old 12-27-2011, 03:56 PM
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I too like the A6.

In the Tech/Perf section, there was a long thread about the advantages/disavantages of going to a shorter rear axle ratio.

In summary, on a 1/4 mile drag where you floor it and hold the pedal down, there is very little difference. I think one guy dropped his ET by about 1/10 second by going from 2.73 to 4.11

But in daily street driving, the car will feel much livlier.
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ok thanks, I will take a look.
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You really need to look at total gearing at the rear wheels. A6's have 4.05 1st ratio, so even with 2.76 axle, it's 11.2 wheels. M6's have 2.66 1st, and with 3.42 axle its 9.1 wheels. As you can see, factory A6's are ahead in this area. For comparison to a 60's A3 Vette with 2.50 1st, would be similar launch to that car having a 4.50 axle, but no highway o.d. Maybe careful what you're doing, or could end up with worthless lower tranny gears.
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thanks vette5.5, this is the info I was looking for. I'll leave it alone.
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Originally Posted by Vette5.5
You really need to look at total gearing at the rear wheels. A6's have 4.05 1st ratio, so even with 2.76 axle, it's 11.2 wheels. M6's have 2.66 1st, and with 3.42 axle its 9.1 wheels. As you can see, factory A6's are ahead in this area. For comparison to a 60's A3 Vette with 2.50 1st, would be similar launch to that car having a 4.50 axle, but no highway o.d. Maybe careful what you're doing, or could end up with worthless lower tranny gears.
So if I understand correctly, then the A6 would feel more lively at launch. Is this correct?
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The higher the numerical ratio the harder the launch. the A6 w/2.73 is the best of all factory offered combos.
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wow, this table is awesome. thanks

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wow, this table is awesome. thanks
put your money into something else
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Give Chuck COW (Corvettes Of Westchester) a call and talk to him about his 3.42 gear package and his COW booster and A6 tune. He will turn the car into a monster.
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Unless you plan on turning it into a track car with drag slicks, leave well enough alone. You already have gearing that will light the stock tires. Any more torque will just make more smoke until you get more grip.
Old 12-28-2011, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by FortMorganAl
Unless you plan on turning it into a track car with drag slicks, leave well enough alone. You already have gearing that will light the stock tires. Any more torque will just make more smoke until you get more grip.
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Default Chuck CoW 3.42 A6 ATTACK PACKAGE!

Originally Posted by Vette5.5
You really need to look at total gearing at the rear wheels. A6's have 4.05 1st ratio, so even with 2.76 axle, it's 11.2 wheels. M6's have 2.66 1st, and with 3.42 axle its 9.1 wheels. As you can see, factory A6's are ahead in this area. For comparison to a 60's A3 Vette with 2.50 1st, would be similar launch to that car having a 4.50 axle
That pretty much answers it....

Give Chuck COW (Corvettes Of Westchester) a call and talk to him about his 3.42 gear package and his COW booster and A6 tune. He will turn the car into a monster.
Yes, and totally CORRECT again.

You CAN NOT take a 3.42 from a stick and instal it in the A6 car as the A6 car has a much

larger trans output shaft spline.

However, we custom build the differentials that bolt directly into the A6 cars and

and I've got the AutoCal tool to deliver the tunes right to your door no matter where you live.

The 3.42 in the A6 car is AMAZING and you lose NOTHING on the highway.


http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-corvette-general-discussion/2269991-chuck-cow-attack-package-w-342s.html

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-corvette-general-discussion/2439823-got-a-chuck-cow-tune-today-wow.html

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-forced-induction-nitrous/2920966-eric-linders-awesome-e-force-attack-package.html

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-tech-performance/2853158-e-forced-by-cow.html

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-scan-and-tune/2824611-thanks-chuck-cow-and-crew.html

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-forced-induction-nitrous/2792650-incredible-journey-across-the-country-for-an-e-force-supercharger.html


Here's some points to consider.... Most of the guys above have the 3.42 rear end with an E-Force SUPERCHARGER!

The cruise RPM at 70 mph is just under 2k which is PERFECT for this application.

Trust me, you will love it like so many others have.

Chuck CoW


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Originally Posted by Rob01C5
Give Chuck COW (Corvettes Of Westchester) a call and talk to him about his 3.42 gear package and his COW booster and A6 tune. He will turn the car into a monster.
Gears and a tune don't turn any car into a monster, but it does make the car a bit quicker and it will feel better.
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Originally Posted by FloydSummerOf68
Gears and a tune don't turn any car into a monster, but it does make the car a bit quicker and it will feel better.
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I hae an 05 AT4 w/ stock gearing. Would a swap for 4.10 be advantagous?
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I hae an 05 AT4 w/ stock gearing. Would a swap for 4.10 be advantagous?
You want 3.90s my friend...

3.90s are perfect for the A4 cars for both launching and highway....

I've got the perfect tune for them...

Call me if you're interested.

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Old 12-28-2011, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuck CoW
You want 3.90s my friend...

3.90s are perfect for the A4 cars for both launching and highway....

I've got the perfect tune for them...

Call me if you're interested.

Chuck CoW
Cool, thanks. Others have said the 3.90 will be good and not much different from the 4.10. I will look into the cost of the 3.90
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Just as an FYI, if you've got an A6 and are looking for a MUCH more reliable and cost effective solution to gears then all you need to do is swap in a differential from a ZO6. It's a direct bolt-on to the 6L80 (although using the Pfadt offset differential mounts make it a little easier to install), it's pretty much indestructible and it's about half the price of an aftermrket unit, especially since there is no core charge to worry about. I've seen them sell for anywhere from $1000 to about $1600. Even at that price you can deduct what you can sell your stock unit for it still makes more sense to do it that way.

In addition to making my car a lot more fun to drive on the street, ive put a few hundred passes on it at the track and it hasn't missed a beat so far in over 2 years!
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Originally Posted by lonnyh
Ok, I guess my first question is why GM installs a 2.73 rear differential on the automatic version of the 6.2 liter LS3.........
In response to your initial question: GM used the 2.73's to beat EPA regs in the auto's, thus dropping the gas guzzler tax on these cars. A 3.43 wouldn't cut the mustard.

IMHO: Get the "Z" diff..........your car will love you!


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