Getting there (tranny/diff coolers)
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Getting there (tranny/diff coolers)
Now all I have to do is wire them in and fill 'em up with fluids (and pray they don't leak!)
Note the Jiffy-Tite fitting on the filter for easy cleaning as well as the home-made debris shields made from 4"x6" galvanized flashing.
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Looks cool.. Canb you get a pic with the camera zoomed out a little.. Also Why don't you put a few more screws/rivets in the flahsing just in case it decides to come loose. As I am sure it will eat thru a racing tire pretty easily..
Also what filter are you using?
Also what filter are you using?
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Plumbing for tranny and diff coolers/pumps
A few Qs:
Is there any way to lower the pump a little and get rid of the elbow fittings into and out of the pump? In the mounted position is the pump inlet connection below the minimum oil level in the transmission?
If not, is the Tilton pump OK for suction lift?
Is there any way to lower the pump a little and get rid of the elbow fittings into and out of the pump? In the mounted position is the pump inlet connection below the minimum oil level in the transmission?
If not, is the Tilton pump OK for suction lift?
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Originally Posted by Jaymz
Looks cool.. Canb you get a pic with the camera zoomed out a little.. Also Why don't you put a few more screws/rivets in the flahsing just in case it decides to come loose. As I am sure it will eat thru a racing tire pretty easily..
Also what filter are you using?
Also what filter are you using?
The filter is a Canton In-line Screen Protector -> http://www.cantonracingproducts.com/...ystem_acc.html
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Originally Posted by Z.06
A few Qs:
Is there any way to lower the pump a little and get rid of the elbow fittings into and out of the pump? In the mounted position is the pump inlet connection below the minimum oil level in the transmission?
If not, is the Tilton pump OK for suction lift?
Is there any way to lower the pump a little and get rid of the elbow fittings into and out of the pump? In the mounted position is the pump inlet connection below the minimum oil level in the transmission?
If not, is the Tilton pump OK for suction lift?
Tilton rates their pumps for 6ft suction lift max I believe, but mine are mounted within a few inches of the drain plug height. I had to use the elbows because of limited room width-wise. The coolers I selected are pretty wide and I didn't want them mounted too close to the exhaust.
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That looks awesome...nice job and good choice in placement...what type of exhuast are you running??
any chance you can post some pics on how you ran the lines?
any chance you can post some pics on how you ran the lines?
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Originally Posted by Oyishdog
That looks awesome...nice job and good choice in placement...what type of exhuast are you running??
any chance you can post some pics on how you ran the lines?
any chance you can post some pics on how you ran the lines?
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You're using the Tilton pump. Made by another manufacturer as I recall and rebadged for Tilton and others.
It has a plastic head where the NPT threaded AN fittings are inserted. The manufacturer specifically warns against the use of metal fittings and advises the only fittings appropriate are plastic.
I went down this road before. Plastic fittings won't cut it as they are only barbed ends. NPT fittings won't cut it as the manufacturer warns against splitting failure.
Only good resolution is to use a pump w/metal housing.
Pegasus used to carry one but doesn't today.
Just keep inspecting the cap.
Steve
It has a plastic head where the NPT threaded AN fittings are inserted. The manufacturer specifically warns against the use of metal fittings and advises the only fittings appropriate are plastic.
I went down this road before. Plastic fittings won't cut it as they are only barbed ends. NPT fittings won't cut it as the manufacturer warns against splitting failure.
Only good resolution is to use a pump w/metal housing.
Pegasus used to carry one but doesn't today.
Just keep inspecting the cap.
Steve
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Plastic Tilton pump housing: not the way to go!!
Here is the info as to proper install of the referenced Tilton pump directly from the manufacturer of the Tilton Pumps. They are in fact made by FLOJET, ITT Industries, 20 Icon, Foothill Ranch, CA 92610-3000
Tel: 949 859-4945 and supplied under various labels to other suppliers.
The Tilton Pump used for this referenced Trans Cooler application is a FLOJET 2100 series Demand Pump. Tilton doesn't manufacturer pumps.
I know this Tilton is the same model as I originally obtained the FLOJET model w/Plastic housing and inlets and returned it. I didn't want to risk a cracked pump housing during a race and lose a trans for lack of oil. I then ordered a Tilton pump (the same one shown) from another supplier and its identical w/the same plastic housing and inlets. The only diff was the label.
The Tilton instructions omit the same cautions as the FLOJET (manufacturer's) instructions. Somehow I think if the same warning was included, the Tilton company wouldn't sell many for trans cooling purposes.
The FLOJET instructions provide:
"Use plastic fittings at the pump port. (Metal) fittings will break pump housing if overtightened. Do not install pump such that plumbing causes excessive stress on either port. (Italics in original.)
Possibly someone could advise as to which pump is included in the T1 GMPP kit. I'd bet its a more expensive model w/a metal housing allowing for the use of NPT threaded AN adapters.
Steve
Tel: 949 859-4945 and supplied under various labels to other suppliers.
The Tilton Pump used for this referenced Trans Cooler application is a FLOJET 2100 series Demand Pump. Tilton doesn't manufacturer pumps.
I know this Tilton is the same model as I originally obtained the FLOJET model w/Plastic housing and inlets and returned it. I didn't want to risk a cracked pump housing during a race and lose a trans for lack of oil. I then ordered a Tilton pump (the same one shown) from another supplier and its identical w/the same plastic housing and inlets. The only diff was the label.
The Tilton instructions omit the same cautions as the FLOJET (manufacturer's) instructions. Somehow I think if the same warning was included, the Tilton company wouldn't sell many for trans cooling purposes.
The FLOJET instructions provide:
"Use plastic fittings at the pump port. (Metal) fittings will break pump housing if overtightened. Do not install pump such that plumbing causes excessive stress on either port. (Italics in original.)
Possibly someone could advise as to which pump is included in the T1 GMPP kit. I'd bet its a more expensive model w/a metal housing allowing for the use of NPT threaded AN adapters.
Steve
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Originally Posted by steve-d
Plastic fittings won't cut it as they are only barbed ends. NPT fittings won't cut it as the manufacturer warns against splitting failure.
If the plastic NPT male to female adapters prove to hard too find then use plastic NPT male threaded nipples which are easy to find but will require the use of different 90-degree elbows.
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Originally Posted by steve-d
It has a plastic head where the NPT threaded AN fittings are inserted. The manufacturer specifically warns against the use of metal fittings and advises the only fittings appropriate are plastic.
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Originally Posted by steve-d
Possibly someone could advise as to which pump is included in the T1 GMPP kit. I'd bet its a more expensive model w/a metal housing allowing for the use of NPT threaded AN adapters.
Steve
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Thanks much Bill. I'd forgotten the name of the high priced/high quality unit; and I couldn't find my Pegasus catalog. The Weldon pumps go for about $358 each from GMPP and about the same from Pegasus when they carried them.
Here's the GMPP link:
http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/results.cfm
I don't think the GMPP pump comes w/the bracket. If you just get the pump from GMPP, you'd probably have to order the pump bracket from them too. PN 12480118, $25. The Weldon PN for the clamp is apparently PN TC250-100
Here's the Weldon site:
http://www.weldonracing.com/9200a.html The description specifically references dash ports on the pump.
Steve
Here's the GMPP link:
http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/results.cfm
I don't think the GMPP pump comes w/the bracket. If you just get the pump from GMPP, you'd probably have to order the pump bracket from them too. PN 12480118, $25. The Weldon PN for the clamp is apparently PN TC250-100
Here's the Weldon site:
http://www.weldonracing.com/9200a.html The description specifically references dash ports on the pump.
Steve
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A little off subject,but how did you get the LG's mounted up the Corsa Ti. I have the Ti and want to do LG's,but was told wouldn't work.Any pics of the exhaust from under!!!! Would love to see it!!!!
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A little off subject,but how did you get the LG's mounted up the Corsa Ti. I have the Ti and want to do LG's,but was told wouldn't work.Any pics of the exhaust from under!!!! Would love to see it!!!!
Here's a link to the diagram for the H-pipe -> http://www.z06vette.com/gallery/show...cat=500&page=1