That same is true for Conn.

That sounds very plausible. If no explanation is provided for the oil loss, I would like to know where this dealer is located.

Also, if I understood the OP correctly, the leak had already stopped during the 1.5-mile drive home.

To the OP - What gear were you in at 70 MPH?

Oil fill cap was secure, for sure. First thing I checked.

C7pimp. Did you change the oil by yourself? What did you do to the car? Please be honest. Otherwise, this is nonsense. :crazy2:

This really sucks for you, and I'm sorry to hear about it.

I know that you are going to have some trust issues with this car for a little while, that's completely understandable. I will say that it sounds like the dealer is taking this seriously by keeping the car for another day for more testing. It can be very difficult to chase down some of these types of leaks, when the oil, coolant etc gets tossed around, the source is not often clear.

I'm wondering if it weren't just a gasket that for some reason hadn't set properly. Possibly needed a few more heat cycles for a proper seal and the pressure of the acceleration caused it to let some oil by. It's rare, but it does happen.

The best thing to do, if the dealer doesn't find a source of the leak, is to check the oil level as prescribed in the owners manual on a daily or every other day basis, depending on how often you drive it. Don't neccessarily believe any spots on the ground, or burning oil smells right away. These could just be residual from this incident. But if you find that you are losing oil, then you need to take it back to the dealership for further investigation.

Maybe an overfill and it expelled the overage out the dipstick...

I'd make sure I had my cell phone and just drive. Forum washer women aside, it's a car with a warranty.

I find it hard to believe that a loose or missing 710 cap would blow 2 quarts out......

Also very possible, and come to think of it, if the majority of the oil were on the topside, a more likely than not explaination.

I can buy oil out the dip stick but would that expulsion only blow out excess oil? He said it was 2 quarts low.

I'm thinking an Oil line or filter puked the oil.

I hope the dealer can find the source. I wouldn't trust a car that gives surprise oil pukes.

Elmer

With 11 miles on the car? :crazy2:

The car has 11 miles. Why the hell would I have changed the oil?

It came off the truck, private delivery near my home. It had 4 miles on it. Drove it home 1 mile. Grabbed lunch, went for a drive, pulled on the freeway with 8 miles on the car, got up to 70mph in 4th gear, and smoke blows out the back of the car because oil shot out everywhere.

I didn't do anything to the car.

Nonsense? Damn right, it's nonsense, but not the way you implied it.

The dealer said it was 2 quarts low when it came in, so it wasn't overfill expulsion.

The oil cap actually didn't have any oil on it.

The driver side part of the hood looked like it took a direct shot, and splattered from there. Closer to the front of the engine bay, not back by the windshield.

The majority of the oil was on the driver's side in the engine compartment.

Op hope you get problem resolved...


I know this is not funny really but hopefully she wasn't driving the transporter..:)


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What a bummer, total buzz kill. Out for a quick cruise, FIRST cruise and this happens? Worse yet, no one knows why? Wow.

As others have suggested since the dealer will likely give the car a clean bill of health put the oil on a strict watch, until you're satisfied.

In the meantime enjoy your car, take solace in the issue's on record and you're protected by a valid warranty. Sorry to hear, anyway. :cheers:

Very helpful, thanks :thumbs:

You were the "I told you so" kid weren't you? :ack:

Really?? Wow, I should have listened to you then since you are the self proclaimed expert! NOT!!

FWIW, my car has been perfect just as most other have too. Sadly, you only think you know what you are talking about. There will be problems with the 2015 too just like there are with ANY other car manufacturer! Rest assured! As always with internet forums, cars with problems are much more publicized than those without any problems. Still the vast majority of us C7 owners here have had problem free cars and I for one am glad I didn't wait!

Ohh gosh... Here we go again... Bought my 05 C6 first year and had very minor issues. My C7 has spent a good bit of time in the shop but it was very minor (loose battery cable) and has a few other minor issues that could happen to ANY car.

I'll say it again, if NO ONE bought a 2014 C7, would there be a 2015?

I'm happy that I bought a c7 and have logged 7K wonderful miles on it! It's a blast to drive and puts a smile on my face.

Enjoy your 2015 c7 with your MINIMUM $4k price increase on the Z51 model. :thumbs:

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

You're clueless.

FYI...2002 Avalanche. First production year. Owned it for 7 years and put 120k miles on it and never had one major problem.

So much for that theory :hide:

-Mark

Dude, **** off. You joined here January of 2014, you didn't warn people of $#!+.

Update?
Very curious on what actually caused it.

No...no...he warned us.
:lol:
S.

:rofl: Best reply yet :thumbs:

:iagree: :rofl:

<so disappointed no one caught my 710 comment :lol:>

If nobody bought a first year car, there would be no cars. Maybe they should start making them beginning the second year.

:hurray: Genius. Why didn't I think of that?

:thumbs:

http://www.thehumorsource.com/system/items/34569.jpg

HA!!!! best answers yet!! :rock:

2005 - 7 years/~60000 miles not a single serious problem.
2014 - 1000 miles zero problems.

I've heard your old wive's tale many times but I took my chances and won both times.

[QUOTE=C6Warrior;1586376792]I warned you guys never buy first year new generation Corvettes. You are just begging for trouble, been there done that.

My ex wife warned me not to buy a C7 so I divorced her, problem solved. I bought a new C7 after the divorce.
C5-JIM

I had 3 1984 vettes... First one was an early production car that was horrible... In the first 3 months I owned the car it spent over 2 months at the dealership fixing problems (mostly electrical). Finally after 3 months I requested a new vehicle and GM gave me a brand new car. No issues with the replacement and I ended up trading it for another with a custom body package late that year.

I've had many other first year production cars (corvettes, camaros, etc.)... Some good, some bad. So what? That's what warranty is for.

If I was the OP I'd take the car out and enjoy it... Drive the **** out of it... Don't worry about the oil leak. My 1968 Z28 had an oil pump failure at just over 40,000 miles... On the highway at speed... Seized up before I even realized what was happening. Still under warranty... GM put in a brand new engine... So I ended up getting more for the car than I would have otherwise when I sold it because the next owner got a great car with a nearly new factory engine. No complaints from me.

The more I read the crap that gets posted in this forum the more I realize it's becoming a waste of time. I understand that everyone is entitled to their opinions but the level of stupidity and ignorance is becoming intolerable. Just way too much BS to read through trying to find useful or helpful info.

The OP was interesting... Dealer's failure to find the fault/cause is interesting... Future follow ups would be interesting... But the tangents that some posts have gone off on are just useless. Sad really.

:iagree: On both points

GM had a warranty that surpassed 40k back in 1968? Also putting a motor in a '68 Camaro is just a wee bit less involved than a C7.

If he bought the car out-of-State, he may be in for that challenge too. IF it comes to it.

How believable is what they told him? I'm betting they say nothing until they hunker down with their zone technical services rep. before saying anything.

My memory isn't as sharp as it used to be but I remember warranty on that car being 50,000 miles... Could be wrong.

Yes the C7 motor is more involved but so what? Are you suggesting a C7 motor can't be replaced?

In 1984 they gave me a brand new replacement car. Point is they made it right.

Whether it's a first year production or not any car can breakdown... Buy them, drive them, enjoy them, fix them, sell them, move on to the next one.

No. 12 mo./12K miles only. Likely a campaign to fix the ones that fail, or done as a customer satisfaction/good will gesture.

I bought a new 1974 Cadillac Sedan DeVille, that had an AT fail @ 36K or so while I was on the road working. GM fixed it, but it was laid-up @ the Cadillac dealer in Fort Smith, Arkansas for 5 days getting the fix.

I agree that's quite possible... And interesting. Will be interesting to see if dealer or GM come back later with more info.

This was at no extra charge, or you paid extra for it?

Never heard of any; "50,000 miles" warranty in 1968. Only: 12/12.

No Questar, of course a C7 motor could be replaced but it's a helluva job and all it takes is one pinched harness and you have a shut off problem or some impossible to find issue down the road. A '68 we could all do w/our eyes closed and take a nap in the engine bay. lol

Skid Row do you remember the CE replacement motors, they were quite common back in the 60's.

Not familiar with the term. What were they?

CE stands for Chevrolet Engine, they were from what I remember Corvette replacement blocks but maybe other Chevy products too.

http://www.oocities.org/motorcity/do...0/ceblock.html

If it was a Z28... (Doesn't say if it applied across the board.)
http://classic-car-history.com/chevr...-1967-1968.htm

Sorry but it was NOT 12k miles.

My memory isn't so bad after all... Took this just now from the classic-car-history.com website:

http://classic-car-history.com/chevr...-1967-1968.htm

"To keep the 302's advertised power rating less than one horsepower per cubic-inch, the factory figure of 290-horsepower was measured at 5300 rpm. Actual redline was 7500 rpm, real figures were closer to 350-375 horsepower. It is curious to note that first-year Z-28-equipped Camaros included Chevrolet's 2-year/24,000-mile warranty and 5-year/50,000-mile powertrain warranty. 602 buyers ordered the Z-28 option in 1967."

My Canadian 1968 Z28 had the 50,000 power train warranty and GM honoured it.

Good stuff.

I would not want the car either.

I would push for a replacement in light of the Chevrolet dealer being clueless on the cause and sourcing the readily apparent defect(s).

It can be done - if the guy chooses to be assertive about it. A member here from AZ. got a replacement for a defective new C7 last Fall.

For those that need reminding - the new C7 had 11 miles on it @ /FAIL.

I see. So, the 50,000 was still miles in Canada? Not in kilometers, not that it matters here of course.

FWIW; my last new Mercedes-Benz model was given a 10 year or 150,000 mile warranty on the engine by the manufacturer, 4-years after the fact, IF you would run full-synthetic oil in the crankcase.

Thanks for the much loved 1968 Z28's warranty explanation/information.:)

Are you the Ralph Nader of the Corvette world? The car in question lost 2 quarts, not all its oil. The dealership has found no cause and the car is running as before. It is not a catastrophic fail, as you seem to want it to be.

Either buy a C7 or not. Who cares. You are becoming annoying.

:iagree:

A bunch of rambling about your 10 year old MB, something about your 30 year old Corvette you don't own any more, and 'let's sue everyone and get a new car'. Really great advice.

Since you seem to need reminding, how about responding to my question?

Here, let me make it easy for you:

:troll

Really troll, just stop with the personal attacks - you're getting obnoxious defending an obvious C7 /FAIL.

When the facts don't fit your dream, you attack the person. Brilliant!

I guess if it happened to you, "Who cares. You are becoming annoying?" Riiiiight!

I remember that my '69 Vette had a 50K powertrain warranty because a rear spindle broke at like 49K miles, and they covered it. That was the last year, or close to it, of the long GM powertrain warranties for many years.

Since you need reminding - you didn't answer my question. See how that works?

Which question was that? I reposted mine so feel free to repost yours

:rofl:

Joe, the issue is that you are making a single incident (a significant one, mind you) into an issue for the car as a whole without ANY evidence to support it (or, at least, that is how you come off). You ignore posts where people ask you to support your assertions with data. All you "appear" to be doing is attacking the car... hence why people are bothered. I find it interesting how some people take an issue with a car, extrapolate that into something much bigger and then call everyone who rightfully questions that logic "kool-aid drinkers" :lol: Oh, and suggest that they wouldn't report a problem with their own car because they are hooked on the kool-aid :lol: If I didn't know better, I'd say that sounds like that person had an agenda... maybe not... but makes you wonder.

To be honest, you do come across as one of a couple of members who take every chance they can to put the car down while ignoring anything that doesn't support their bashing. Maybe this is not at all what you intend to do but I can absolutely see where people get this idea from.

So, to Ken's question... where is your data relative to C7 failures as a percent of cars on the road? Rather than continue to proclaim "failure" every chance you get, back it up... or let it go. This isn't a comment relative to this specific issue or car... which is a big deal for this member and his car, no doubt, but it is NOT indicative to the C7 based on any data I see. Prove me wrong.

So, let's see your data... :thumbs:

No, to most members who read your endless crap, you are the troll. :ack:

:iagree:
:thumbs:
For he is Skid Mark Joe, Lord of the Trolls.
S.

Ah..... so we agree then that when you run out of gas, attack the person, right Jack?:ack: Nice!

Another vote here that Joe is the troll and is constantly baiting people.

I think it is unrealistic to ask anyone to provide data regarding the amount of issues any product may be having be it a car or a chainsaw.

What I feel is that for those of us who frequent this forum (and it goes for all gens) we all know how the complaints seem to be constantly circulating, not unlike when many killed the LS7 for valve issues.

Joe doesn't need me to defend him but sometimes the C7 owners and lovers have a tendency to gang up on posters if they are anything anti C7 and that is a fact. As I've said before the C7 for all the good it may offer certainly has had its share of teething pains, some of which are root canal. I think if the die hards would admit this than maybe the "sensitive" topics can be discussed with a little less conflict and the name calling and attacks may subside.

I am very interested in the new Z and whether I buy one will in part be based on how the Stingray fares over the next year or so. If I keep seeing constant owner complaints it will make me hold off or buy something else.

Again to ask for data is an impossible task so why ask?

A little paranoid are you? I see no personal attack in what I said. I have a right to an opinion and your droning on and on about "obvious C7 fail" has become your mantra. You come on this forum, apparently to denigrate the Stingray and those of us who chose,by free will, to buy one. My car fulfills my dream. You seem only to have nightmares about cars you don't even own.

Then why make the assertion without data to begin with?

Isn't name calling against forum rules? Of course some of you get a free pass which is BS!

Ok Dan, the problem is when the OP asked for data, I respond too early for it and Skids response was OIL LEAK! There's you data! Too early?? DREAMER KOOLAID DRINKER LOLOL
So if you're defense of him not having data, it's impossible for data...

It isn't unrealistic to ask someone to support their position with data when they SELECTIVELY use limited data to bash the car. This has nothing to do with discussing the problem at hand or the unfortunate issue this member faces with his car. Joe, along with others, come across like they have an agenda... that is a fact too... so when people defend the car and ask for support, it is perfectly reasonable in my view. It would be completely different if it wasn't the same group of people, using the same limited data, taking shots at any and all chances to put the car down in very obvious and sometimes subtle ways... and then calling everyone who owns a C7, has had great experiences with the C7, and loves their C7, "kool-aid drinkers". :cheers:

Good summation, Dan.

Some would rather spend all their time attacking the person, than discuss solving the issue(s).

The issue is very real - some can't handle the truth. I can empathize with the OP, because I've BTDT with a new car. Believe me, it's an unenviable position to be thrust in.

This issue is VERY real... for THIS specific car. I absolutely agree. People can handle the truth... what people can't "handle" is the extrapolation of the issue beyond this car... or the inference thereof.

Really???

You'll have to ask this of KenHorse. He was the one asking this ridiculous unanswerable baiting Q.

This has been addressed already.

It was a political Q asked to silence OR throw ppl off the real issue here. It didn't work.

He didn't have the data OR the answer to the Q either.

I don't hate Skids, I pitty him really.
Claims to make 285 an hour, has a great MB, is doing so well he can gift MBs to friends but the only thing that makes him feel good is to hang out online and sling $ hit at other peoples new cars.
Hope you find some peace and happiness someday Joe

I think you are continually missing (or ignoring) the point others are trying to make. That's cool though :D

Had a 69 Nova 396/375 raced on drag strip every week end drove to work every day dropped a valve at 36000 miles took to dealer with slicks and shoe polish still on windows 5/50000 What do you think skid row Sold car and it still had warrenty

2/24 B-to-B and 5/50 powertrain.

ok. late to the party. i see this was covered several (mindless) bickering posts back. resume fighting, you rascals!

:rofl:

Jack and I don't always agree, but you hit the nail on the head on this :thumbs:

THE Lord of the Trolls...doesn't get worse here on the C7 forum.

And another...

Very well said--spot on.

Yep, has so much money and time, that he choses to spend it here bashing a car he hates and while he's at it, bash the owners.

Seems like the feelings are pretty inline here about your comments--AKA trolling.

:willy:

Since you don't have the GM data either - really, what's your fixation?

Sounds good to me. I lived the '60s too! However I had nothing like a 69 Nova 396/375, as you did! :cheers:

:iagree:
Poor old fella'.
I think it's great that a year later, when trolls like this start slinging their crap, they are now so far outnumbered by C7 owners who actually own and drive these cars they are called out for their ridiculous agendas, unfounded claims and disingenuous comments.
:cheers:
S.

OP mentioned the leak and oil spray was more at driver side and driver side hood liner. I was thinking the oil filter seal went bad, and sprayed on belts which then scattered on driver side hood liner. But I can not see a direct path. In fact the oil filters on LSx and now LT1 engines are located way too low. OP also mentioned the "SOXAP" part was tight...

http://www.theheavyfoot.com/wp-conte...-block-v8.jpeg

My question was not baiting anything nor anyone.

You have repeatedly asserted (or at the very least, inferred and insinuated) that problems with the C7 are widespread and numerous. I asked you to provide your evidence of that to which you deflected and attempted to move the discussion of onto some unrelated tangent.

Now, if you are simply stating an opinion based on purely anecdotal evidence that is one thing and so be it. But the reality remains that your claims, based on a preponderance of the available evidence, are unsubstantiated and spurious to say the least.

That is not baiting. That is an accurate assessment :cheers:

I agree and that is a pretty engine. I don't see a filter gasket healing itself, and the valve cover should have a baffle at the opening and shouldn't be blowing anymore than a mist it it was off. I hope they find it because it really is a head scratcher. The OP is taking it very well I might add. Probably better than I would.

Just talked to the service center again.

They think the oil filter gasket failed, but only at high pressure under throttle.

He said any other part of the engine that would have caused such a massive oil leak would have shown sure signs of damage.

They replaced the oil filter, and topped off the oil.

Also, given no CEL or Oil light also points to the same thing.

I gave them permission to take it out on the road and try to reproduce the problem.

If everything checks out, they'll release the car tomorrow.


I have been pretty chill about the whole thing. I just keep imagining a red Stingray flying down the freeway from an observer's perspective with smoke billowing out the back of it. It's pretty hilarious if you think about it. Hahaha!!

I'm calm because the warranty and insurance will cover me if anything happens. If nothing ever happens again, then it was a total fluke incident. I'm just going to enjoy the car when I get it back and not worry about it.

There should have been physical evidence of the oil filter gasket blowing out. I assume they didn't mention anything like that?

Glad it's looking less serious than it could have been. Keep us posted please and hope the weather is good for you to put some miles on it :)

Cool. I am glad this ended up good.
Couple of things: First as I mentioned before I would have asked for the old oil filter (now too late) to check the gasket myself. You know, AC Delco PF64 oil filter is pretty new and hasn't been proven to be a rugged oil filter yet.
Second thing is how did they clean your engine compartment? Did they use brake clean? Do you know what they used? Brake clean will not be good for some hoses and seals. I would use soapy water to clean my engine, and I will do it myself.
:cheers:

You've been beyond chill, kudos to you and I'm glad it's working out for the better.

Make sure they clean that car until it squeaks, top to bottom.
GOOD LUCK!!:cheers:

Great news! Hope it all goes well.:cheers:

I covered it in my last post. If you want to post your findings, go right ahead. I'll be glad to learn what you probably do not know or can provide. Your preposterous and baiting Q didn't work over there, nor here.

Unless you're just interested in picking a fight, the subject you opened and couldn't provide data for is closed.:cheers:

Not to disagree, but I purchased 6 PF64 oil filters from an Amazon vendor and they appear plenty rugged. The seal looks the same as any other filter.

If this filter was put on too tight, the gasket can become deformed and leak. Or just plain leak if not tight enough. Or the seal is damaged. It could have been cross threaded, too.

I would just call it a case of mis-installed filter and forget it.

PS:
===============
I reported one of the haters above a number of times to the moderators as he simply post things to get people mad and feeds on your reaction. Guys like him contribute nothing to the forum so ignore them.

Remember: He and others like him do not own a C7 nor do they plan to, so their comments don't have any merit.

Please just ignore these guys and eventually they will go away.

Then you know better. I also bought a PF64 but have not opened the box to look at it. As you mentioned it should be a good filter.

If it was the oil filter, it is also possible that the filter/gasket damaged during shipping or truck load/unload. I doubt Bowling Green quality check don't catch this.

We all hear you Russ...it's annoying to say the least. Sooner or later he will get put on vacation.

The other good news is there are now many C7 owners and more everyday, and they are getting fed up of the berating and bashing from him about the C7. I'm guessing his C7 sub-forum days are numbered...but then again he's still here.

I've come to the same conclusion. I never antagonized the guy but rather asked a sincere, serious question only to have him obfuscate and, quite obviously, shuck and jive.

As such I am done and will probably put him on ignore....

The unfortunate side effect from trolls like Skids is that they mislead people and post bad info, usually with the sole purpose of advancing their misguided agendas.

Case in point:
Unfortunately for Skids, and not entirely surprising for somebody who last owned a Corvette (or any “performance car”) when the country was struggling with who shot J.R., McDonalds was introducing the “Happy Meal” and Voyager 1 showed us pictures of Jupiter’s rings, he apparently doesn’t understand how “traction control” works.

His comments above, with regards to the below post and video, clearly demonstrate that he has no clue why the car was “bogging”. It was pulling power. Because the tires were spinning. And the traction control was engaging. Note the flashing TC light come on at ~3500 rpm and again after the shift.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1586187843-post1.html


S.

Congratulations as that could be great news all things considering. I've spun on a few filters and the only ones I've ever seen leak were deformed. I guess it is possible for the filter to be almost loose to where the higher pressure could void the rubber seal, but if the filter seal is good that it was tight that baby didn't leak or it would have still been leaking.imo


Good luck and nice car and the best color..:thumbs:

Next thing you might pay attention too is there any residual oil smell...windows up or down hvac on off etc...sitting in traffic or not.

Great news.. :thumbs:

Well stated and true. He tries to blows smoke up everybody's azz as he triesto come off as a resident "expert", and sadly many unknowing CF members will believe him! :ack: That is sad.

:withstupid: I get it, you get it, lots of people here get it... not so sure Joe does :(