ill remove the kick panels in the morning, is it just the passenger or driver's side panel?

I would remove both.

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That VIN 194377S102817 does not show up on usual search tries and car 2817 is not listed at C2 registry. There are many hints that could be checked to see if it was really a big block car, or an AO Smith car, or a black car, or a TI car etc etc but with those TRIM, VIN and PAD findings not sure it matters :eek::eek:

The rivets on the ledge under the wiper grilles.

so is it safe to say that i have a "fake" big block 67?

What we DO know for sure-
1. Fake trim tag
2. re-stamped block
With more info., the more we will know.:cheers:

Jim

Well for all we know your car could have been a born with BB car. But now your big concern is why was the vin tag removed and why the bogus trim tag. And is that the original vin tag for that body and if it matches the vin on the frame.

Is it possible to check the VIN on the frame, i have it on a lift now, but i am not sure where it is located.

Yes you can. Its on the driver s side on the top of the frame in the wheel house area. You will need a good light a mirror and a good eye. Some stamps were light and some were deeper. It also depend how much and what type of paint was used on the frame. Good luck

VIN more specifically on a 66-67 usually above the front edge of the #4 body mount bracket. Remove the rear wheel to see in there better and a really good light helps :cheers:

You may also be able to look under the carpet behind the removable interior 1/4 panels. Open the rear deck and pull back the carpet where it reaches the top of the fenders.

Did you mention in prior posts whether this is a side pipe car?

Exactly what do you mean by "open the rear deck"? This is a 67 coupe. Are you talking the jack area cover?

That's means I spaced out and forgot it was a coupe. :crazy2: Sorry about that :thumbs:

I was just wondering if you could look under the carpet around the jack area, but I don't know what color that was from the factory and I would imagine could easily be painted when the car is painted.

alright i removed the kick panels, i did not see any other color or primer color, it was all black. And yes this is a side pipe car. I tried to look for the vin on the frame, no luck. i can barely get my fingers between the body/frame let alone a mirror or anything else.

Did you see if it was an original sidepipe car? Are the factory cuts there?

you look in all the crevices and up behind the dash area? how much further do you want to investigate on what your car use to be. I know by now I would be sick:ack: