Opinion: 427 now or wait for C7
 

I am torn between getting a new 427 or waiting for a C7 vert.. I am in the east coast and don't really drive the car much over the winter so I'm not in a rush, but there are some great deals on 427's out there.

I wish I knew more about the schedule of the C7 and how it will compare to a 427 C6.

What do you guys think?

I don't think you are alone, there maybe hundreds of us. Release of the C7 is expected on 13 Jan. C6 production is scheduled to end in Feb, there is a small window to make up your mind. Patience my friend.

Wait and see what the C7 looks like. You might hate yourself if the new C7 is "to die for" ..........and C6 prices are only getting better.

I don't think there's any doubt the C7 will outperform just about any C6, the question is what will it look like. I guess at this point I would wait and see what the C7 is going to offer although it looks like the soonest you can get one will be late summer next year.

Wait for the C8

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1 of each. Get the 427 in NRBM with every option available and put it in storage for the next 30 years. Get the C7 and make it your DD.

Not saying it isn't so...but there's at least doubt for me that a 2014 C7 vert will outperform my 427.



:rofl: My thoughts exactly...why enjoy today when you can wait forever to see if something else comes out that you may like better...or may just hate...:rofl:

4 2 7!! Hands down!! LOL!!

You can enjoy your 4 2 7 while GM tweaks the C7!

Maybe not forever, but how about 44 days or so....:leaving:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...27-owners.html

I just posted in this thread above:

Holding out for a C7 IMO is not all that great of an idea, 1st- the car has not been released and other than a few vague spy-shots noone really has a clue what the final car will look like...

Second, as everyone knows whenever a new Gen is released, everything is marked up way over sticker cuz they know there are people that HAVE to be the first to own one and pay 10k over sticker Combine that with first year bugs etc... No thanks!

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I guess if you really wanted to, we'll all know Jan 13 what the C7 will finally look like so if you can wait about 2 more months you'll know if you like the looks better of one than the other if that is important.

Performance wise, I would venture that the C7 base model will be at about the same level of performance as the 427 Vert.. and a tad less than the C6Z.

You're gonna drive a 2014 vert to see if it will outperform a 427 in 44 days? :rofl:

Well, you'll be able to see it, and all it's specs, and have a pretty good idea...

Schedule:

The 2014 Corvette model is such a big deal, General Motors plans to stop production in February of 2013 at their Bowling Green, Kentucky plant to concentrate solely on the revamp of the iconic sports car.

The Bowling Green plant is the only GM site that builds Corvettes, and a $131 million investment was announced for it last year, along with a promise to add 250 jobs. 700 workers are currently employed there and temporary layoffs will occur during the lag in production. But, plant manager Dave Tatman says the time off will be days—not months.

During the six month halt, employees will be re-trained and the body shop will be renovated. Just two parts from the last model will carry over to the 2014 Corvette: the interior cabin air filter and the rear latch for the removable roof panel.”

GM spokesman Monte Doran says, “With this car, because it’s such a dramatic change, we felt like the best thing to do was to halt production so we could completely overhaul the interior of (the) Bowling Green (plant) to get ready for the new car,” he said.

Doran also warns, “There will be a period of time when Corvettes will be hard to find until the 2014 (model) comes out.”

At an event in Georgia last week, GM unveiled a new Crossed Flags logo to debut with the 2014 Corvette. The company says more than 100 variations were considered before the final design was selected. The new design has a more angular and swept appearance.

“The flags are much more modern, more technical and more detailed than before — underscoring the comprehensive redesign of the entire car,” said Ed Welburn, GM vice president of global design.

The 2014 Corvette design will make its debut Jan. 13, 2013. The model will roll out the plant on June 30, 2013–60 years to the day that the first 1953 model was produced.
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Just me, but I wouldn't buy my sports car without driving it first to see how it performs. And I certainly wouldn't do it with a first year model release. In addition, I still don't believe there will be a 2014 vert that will outperform the 427...and you won't be driving one that underperforms the 427 for nearly a year from now...

:iagree: 100%

Might as well wait...worse case is the C7 looks like crap and the 427 will be cheaper by then.

As for performance 98% of us never even use the 400+ horsepower we already have or the car to it's potential anyway...so unless you are tracking the cars it does not matter IMO.

From what's been published so far it looks like the 2014 C7 will only be available as a coupe and convertible. No Z06, no ZR1, no performance model other than a choice between dry sump and wet sump engines (and probably a related handling package).

Goal was 3,000 pounds and 450 HP, my '08 is 3179 pounds and 436HP so I don't see a major increase in performance. The engine changes seem to be for increased mileage, slightly higher horsepower was a byproduct of the increased compression available because of the direct injection.

If you want big HP and enhanced handling buy the 427 now, the 2014 will be lower HP.

Exactly, there will not be a vert in 2014 that will outperform a 427, nor a coupe that will outperform a 2013 Z06 or ZR1...and it's unknown if there will be a vert that will outperform a 427 in 2015 (or any model year of C7 for that matter).


And for those 98% perhaps the looks of the 2014 will matter more than the performance difference. I tend to spend a lot of time at the top of the power curve in gears 1-3, where there is a world of difference between the 427 and a base vert.

IMO, if I was thinking of getting a C7, I wait for at least the 3rd year of production.
Reason being is GM will tweak, add and improve each year of production as they always do with any vehicle.
So .. If I was in a position to get a 427 and wanted a 427, I would get one now and enjoy it for a few years before getting a C7.
Good luck whatever you decide :cheers:

Don't be so sure the new Vert won't give a 427 a run. I have yet to see any members 427's posting any type of decent numbes at the track. Coincddence?

I'd be willing to bet you won't see a stock 2014 vert turning 1/4's in 11.9/122...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTVjl...ature=youtu.be

In the first year or 2 of the C7, yes I would bet there will not be a high performance version of the C7 (Z06 or ZR1) but I would almost guarntee by the end of the 2nd year or start of 3rd there will be some kind of ZR1 or Z06. Given what ford and dodge and other companies are doing there is no way GM is just going to release the C7 at 450-470HP and be done with it :crazy:

I could see them not releasing both a Z06 and ZR1 again, and going with 1 or the other... maybe a 675HP ZR1 or something, or 600HP Z06 , who knows. ..

I totally agree with you that we will see, a year or two after the initial C7 release, extremely high performance coupes. I'm not so sure about a vert...especially in the first couple of years.

Well, you can see what I did :D

Not only that, first year or two the C7 will most likely have bugs to be worked out.. So if it was me, unless I was willing to wait until 2016, I'd go 427.

ditto..your looking at a c7..i believe they said.450 hp..your at 436 hp now..thats not a big dif...get the 427, they may not be making any more..if ya gotta have the first of c7, then wait....

Oh yea, we probably will not see a high performance Vert in the C7 line up. I think GM did this in the C6 lineup to hold over interest in the C6 while waiting on the C7.. the 427 vert is a limited edition car, even more limited than the ZR1..

Exactly. I would be pissed if when the C6 came out I jumped and got an 05 or 06 only to find out in 08 the LS3 comes out with a good deal more power and torque among other things.. If I do a C7 it won't be until 4th or 5th year of that run.

About three months ago, after accepting a new job in Minneapolis, I traded in my 09 C6 Vert for an AWD Hyundai Santa Fe. While the new ride is functionally ok and will handle the snow when it finally arrives, I miss my vert something terrible and have been perusing the forum vendor's postings. I am wondering the same thing as the OP. I can save for a C7 or just take the plunge and buy another C6. Oh and another reason to kick myself is the unusually warm and dry winter here so far. I could have been enjoying my vert the whole time!!!:toetap:

I would go with the 427 Convertible now vs. waiting for the C7. The 427 Convertible is a unique one year model and IMHO one of the best looking Corvettes ever made. When the C7 model comes out it will be unique only for a short while and in time, be as common as the C5's and 6's are now. Add to the fact that you can get a pretty hefty discount on the 427, with the rebates and incentives being offered.
The C7 is 6 weeks away from being shown to the public and 9 or 10 months away from actually getting one. The C7 will most likely sell for MSRP or better.
If you buy a 427 now and find that you like the C7 that much more...you could always sell or trade it later anyway.

Me too!! I figure I can wait and see what develops with the C7 as it progresses and if I decide I have to have one then I can sell the 06 and keep the 427. Win-win for me.

Wait for the C7. Then decide.

I had this same type of internal struggle for three months,but it was worse for me as I have been without one for a few years. Grand sport vert? leftover model? or throw caution to the wind and go 427...or since its now cold here in pa, wait for spring and see what the C7 does. Yeah, that thought is gone. Went to look at 427's finally, in person. picking mine up tomorrow. If the C7 is really that superior, or gotta have it, it will not be until late summer anyway. meanwhile I will have mine for start of spring, at a very fair price.

I was being conservative, but really wanted the 427. Finally, my accountant of all people talked me into it. If you have the desire and the means, I say go for it. Enjoy it now. Quite frankly deals are good NOW. May they get better? perhaps, but by how much? Also, if you have the means to buy a 427, it isnt going to devalue soo badly that you wont be able to trade into a C7 if you really HAVE TO. jump in, the water is fine.

I would buy the 427 car and keep it for 3 years. See what they offer for the 2016 Corvette. If there is some kick ass model then trade the 13 in and buy a 16 if not keep the 13.

From what I have heard the C7 will have the cylinder deactivation. This is a deal killer for me.

Get the 427. I think its going to be a icon. :rock:

I would buy the 427 now. I think with the deals on them now they are a heck of i buy. I would like one myself

I too went through this thought process before buying my 427 Anniversary Edition. I had been hoping after the ZR1 came out, that Chevy would understand there are buyers like me that want the badass 427 engine in a convertable and have no desire to use the car for a racer and they finally did it. I do believe this car is an instant classic and who knows if or when Chevrolet will use this monster engine again. Chevy will hold back the ZR1 and Z06 for future model years to keep the interest in the line. There is no need for them to bring out the entire C6 lineup in the C7 format. They need to spread it out. When they finally get around to doing a Z06 if ever, what are the chances this 427 or it's variant will make it back in the car? I would say pretty slim, so this may be the swan song for the 427 much like how they faded away in the C2/C3 models.

Well it's not looks or performance for me it's the 427 that I sold in 1973. Then I had to wait till 2009 to get another don't think I have that many years left to wait on another 427. I would love to own one of the last z07 but it's not in the cards. So my 2012 z06 will have to suffice.
I don't see how 376 cubes and 450 horse power equals faster times than a Z06 or 427 convertible. No substitue for cubic inches on the street yeah I now turbo 4's and super charged this an that. I'm talking NA not forced induction.
Oh and don't want to be a tester for GM I stay away from first year cars 2005 weak rear ends and harmonic bal. They had bad Harmonic bal in 1984 vetts I owned one it was the recall of the week.
z51vett

:iagree: plus all of the new features etc. it will have. I would hate to spend all of that money on a new car that is from the previous generation in months. If the price was rightI would jump on the 427.

If it were me, I'd wait the 6 weeks or so and see what the C7 looks like before making any decision. The 427 will still be available should you not like what you see in the C7.

Buy now...do not hesitate
 

Buy now and enjoy it! I went through a similar thought process when I bought my 2007....buy now or wait for the 2008. Yes, the 2008 had some improvements but I am very happy with my 2007.
Chevy is going to make some improvements in the C7 as the years pass, so if you wait for a C7 the subsequent model years will have some enhancements anyhow. Whatever you buy will be obsolete, in a sense, in a couple of years. That is their plan.
Larry

I'd wait to see what the C7 has to offer. If it LOOKS anything like the latest C&D mag. publication, you'll be waaaay better off with the C6. I'm waiting too...

:rofl:
:iagree: tomorrow is promised to no1...

Instant gratification
 

I am all for instant gratification. Get the 427 soon. It will always be a very special car. You probably don't want a first production year of a new model anyway.

I bought a used 2006 (white 32k mi) a couple of weeks ago and hadn't even considered getting into another Corvette two days prior to the buy. It was just talking to me and telling me to take it home! LOL Oh, those darned voices. Go with the voices in YOUR head. What do they tell you to do?

If I can get the right deal I'll do it now and then see abou the C7.

Well, right now some of us 4 2 7 owners are waiting for GM to tweak our exhaust valves. I'm not holding my breath.

Joe, what's going on with the 4 2 7 exhaust valves? No issues with mine & now have 1,200 miles on clock. Thanks, JW

:iagree::iagree::iagree:

Personally i would wait to decide.. but one thing i have learned is that almost every "frist year " GM car ends up being problomatic and having issues..
97 c6... 05 c6... while many of the others love them, i personally would never touch a first year GM model. If you fall in love with the c7.. either wait for the 2nd year c7.. or if not , get the 427 vert.

It's to early to see what is happening with the 427 Convertibles but there is a lot of chatter in the Z06 section about the exhaust valve problems with the 2006 through 2012??? Z06's. Seems to be a hit or miss problem. Of course, only GM knows the full extent of the problem and they aren't talking.

I was faced with the same question but after seeing and driving the 427, you can see what happened by my avatar :) . Good luck with the decision.

3k miles on mine w/ no issues...and I also have not heard of any issues with the 427. Something I don't know about?

I'd wait just to see what the C7 looks like. If it looks anything like what Car and Driver has on it's front cover I'd get the 427.

I understand that the C7 may not be available in a convertible the first year of production

Don't believe the magazine...talked to a guy at the L.A. auto show & he said it deliberately misleading. Wait until January.

I chose to go with the 427, unfortunately I purchased mine before the owner loyalty 3k rebate!:ack:

Wait until January 13th.the advancements on the c7 transcend any or should say many of the fine achievements of the c6 corvette.

You will still have the ability to pay less for the 427 if that's the direction you chose after the January 13th full reveal.

It's a win win to wait and make an informed decision

The 427's are like hotcakes in many places. may or may not be around by the time you decide. The reality is it really depends on when you want it. If you want a vert for spring, the C7 wont be the one as it wont be made yet. heck, it may not even be a first year car, no one really knows yet.
As far as the valve issue, it is widely discussed elsewhere in this forum, and may or may not be an issue on the verts. I knew about it, and didnt care. I have a warranty, and dont plan on modding my motor in any way or tracking it. if it blows, it is what it is. I have only 500 miles, but have none of the symptoms thus far, and they say it often shows up early as noisy valve train due to incorrect geometry in some cases. There is no single answer yet, but gm says drive it, so I am.
In my case, we do a lot of work with manufacturer of other products and see flaws from time ot time, so I am sortof numb to hearing about production issues.

I know this, I was sitting on the fence next to you for a few months, and finally jumped with no regrets. The deals are real, and the car is awesome thus far.

If I were in your shoes and could afford either one this is what I'd do. I'd get the 427. Why? Because you can get fantastic deals on them right now and it'll be at least 2 years before you'll get great deals on a C7. Besides that, the cars are constantly updated and improved. That reasoning is why I got a 2006 C6. Then when the great deals start, and if you're so inclined, trade it for a C7. If you wait, who knows what will happen to the potential deals, the economy, etc. Plus, one final note. The 427 Verts will always be in demand. Go for it! :cheers:

Buy now do you want to be a tester so GM can fix all the problems on your dime new engine and controls.
z51vett:hide:

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If the C7 is dog ugly you may see a run on existing 427 stock. If it isnt I am sure you wont see decent discounts on the C7 anytime soon.

I would go for the 427 now and let other guys pay around MSRP and above while they work the bugs out of the fist year production.

You can have 3 years of driving fun while other guys are dealing with whatever issues come up with the C7 and by that time I am sure higher performance models will come out.

Of course if the C7 looks anything like the spy shot artist renderings I would not want one anyway. And the cylinder deactivation is also a deal killer for me. Did it with a daily driver Challenger R/T I bought in 09. Hated it.

JMHO, if I were at all interested in the C7, which I'm not, I would at least wait until all of the details of the C7 were released. This way you can see if you really want the C7 or not. Additionally, as soon as the C7 is released the C6 will go down in value, so if you didn't want a C7, you can get a better deal on a C6! :)

The dilemna is that the deal is really great and something that may not be there in Jan.. It's for a fully loaded anniversary car and it's just an amazing deal.

Considering that the more powerful engine won't be out for a couple of years, this car should still be a hot item.

I don't know...so confused:willy::willy::willy:

an amzing deal now for a pretty pretty sweet ride, or sticker next year for a car that isnt going to be up to its full potential. get the deal now and have a ball. when the time comes, decide if you trade up or not. its only paper.

I plan on getting a 427 convertible, but will wait to see the C7 in January. Then if it is really killer I may spring for one but would also imagine better incentives to sell the remaining c6's. I do not see the "old technology" 427 in the future, think that is the way to go. I do plan on keeping my 09 ZR1 in any event.

Great part about life is there is always another awesome deal.

Just hang back till January 13th and then you'll know.

The new c7 is going to be awesome......you know you'll want one without a doubt.....

3000 lbs...475 hp 475 lb/ft tq....7 speed manual ..ptm5 MRC carbon fiber and the lists go on...

The styling as much as it pains me to say it....will begin to date our beloved c6s rather quickly....

Wait until January 13th

I'm trying to work out a deal now on an anniversary car. If I can get it for the price I want, I'll do it now. Otherwise I'll wait.

Thanks to everyone for their input. I'll let you know what happens.

You hear all the stories about not buying the first year of a new generation, so if you lean that way, then that makes it a little harder. If that does not bother you, I would wait until next month to see what the C7 is really going to look like, never mind all these renderings that keep popping up.

The other side of the coin, is we know that the next engine will be the LT1 rated at 450 hp and no mention of any other engines being offered. With the push to meet the new CAFE requirements, this my be the last of the 427's so that is something to think about.

Finally, you may see a big reduction in the C6's once the C7 is available, but of course you will be limited to dealer stock and there is no guarantee there will be any 427's available then.

Still thinking. Maybe procrastinating long enough will help make the decision for me