Master Cylinder Rebuild
Has anyone seen a paper on rebuilding a brake master cylinder?
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No, but I just got a new (not rebuilt) mc from Napa. Less than $30.
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Originally Posted by Jud Chapin
(Post 1558683596)
Has anyone seen a paper on rebuilding a brake master cylinder?
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I know they're cheap ( I work part time for Advance Auto) but I had my original stainless steel sleeved years ago and I don't want to toss it. Thanks for the input.
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Originally Posted by Jud Chapin
(Post 1558683782)
I know they're cheap ( I work part time for Advance Auto) but I had my original stainless steel sleeved years ago and I don't want to toss it. Thanks for the input.
You don't really need a paper, and the instructions that come with the rebuild kit show you everything you need. They are generic, but you just replace what you can with what the kit gives you. Remove the clip with some snap ring pliers, pull the plunger, both of them, and make sure you get all the springs. You'll see a few rubber seals and washers to replace, and I think a spring or two. It's really very easy, and only took me about fifteen minutes. |
Would you rebuild a master cylinder that hasn't been sleeved?
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Originally Posted by BlueL36
(Post 1558685043)
Would you rebuild a master cylinder that hasn't been sleeved?
I hone them (if necessary) with various stone sets and do a final pass with a hone set wrapped in fine steel whool. |
I've always though rebuilding was moot since new ones only cost $35. I rebuilt mine because it was a chroma after market master with bleeders.
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I personally wouldn't rebuild one unless it was SS sleeved since they are so cheap. I just like to keep my Vette as original as possible and that is why I went the SS way. Just my 2 cents. Thanks for all the input!
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Originally Posted by Durango_boy
(Post 1558685184)
I've always though rebuilding was moot since new ones only cost $35. I rebuilt mine because it was a chroma after market master with bleeders.
You have to take it on a case-by-case basis. Most of the time, the kit costs more than the replacement. Sometimes it's the same. Sometimes it's less. Sometimes originality is important. Sometimes the sheer joy of doing something that actually requires some skill over-weighs the cost factor. Depends on the situation. |
Originally Posted by Tom454
(Post 1558685304)
Very true.
You have to take it on a case-by-case basis. Most of the time, the kit costs more than the replacement. Sometimes it's the same. Sometimes it's less. Sometimes originality is important. Sometimes the sheer joy of doing something that actually requires some skill over-weighs the cost factor. Depends on the situation. |
Originally Posted by 70vert
(Post 1558683763)
No, but I just got a new (not rebuilt) mc from Napa. Less than $30.
can you PLEASE post a part number for a brand new (not rebuilt) NAPA Corvette master thats under $30?? the NAPA website shows them at more like $75 ...redvetracr |
Originally Posted by redvetracr
(Post 1558685388)
can you PLEASE post a part number for a brand new (not rebuilt) NAPA Corvette master thats under $30?? the NAPA website shows them at more like $75
...redvetracr How about Advance Auto: http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductL...ter%20Cylinder |
Hey Jud...
How about getting them to correct their web site? http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductL...chfor=Radiator That radiator is only for a SB. Won't fit a BB. BB: http://www.dewitts.com/pages/product...asp?ProdID=275 SB: http://www.dewitts.com/pages/product...asp?ProdID=277 Also tell them that TriPower was only available 1967 - 1969. Many of their parts listing have TriPower as a selection for 1970. :thumbs: |
Originally Posted by Tom454
(Post 1558686034)
Hey Jud...
How about getting them to correct their web site? http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductL...chfor=Radiator That radiator is only for a SB. Won't fit a BB. BB: http://www.dewitts.com/pages/product...asp?ProdID=275 SB: http://www.dewitts.com/pages/product...asp?ProdID=277 Also tell them that TriPower was only available 1967 - 1969. Many of their parts listing have TriPower as a selection for 1970. :thumbs: Actually, in looking at the link provided in your post, the application indicates small block. |
Originally Posted by Jud Chapin
(Post 1558686279)
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Actually, in looking at the link provided in your post, the application indicates small block. "For vehicle: 1970 CHEVROLET CORVETTE 4 Barrel V8 7.4 Liter Carbureted " |
Originally Posted by Tom454
(Post 1558687463)
Nope... 7.4 Liter is a 454 Big Block.
"For vehicle: 1970 CHEVROLET CORVETTE 4 Barrel V8 7.4 Liter Carbureted " |
Ttt
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It's not that complicated...
You just pop the clip, remove the guts, clean it/hone it, install new guts. If the bore is pitted, use a fine grit hone if it needs honing- the hone can't have a "stop" on it as those used for calipers.... the stones need to go all the way to the inside... set the tension just enough so that they stay against the wall by themselves... centrifugal force will give them enough cutting power. There may be un-machined casting inside the end of the cylinder... avoid hitting it with the stones or they shatter. Don't mistake built-up sludge for rust or pits. Hone on a slow speed.... don't use the drill on high... need a variable speed drill. Stainless sleeved bores usually only require a clean-up... I never use stones on them, I use a stone set wrapped in fine steel whool, which is the finish step on a cast iron bore. If the pits don't clean up after about 20 or 30 slow passes, then you should have the unit sleeved or just replace it. (One pass = in & out) Only hone until the bore cleans up, then stop. The number of passes is a "guesstimate" because this depends on how much tension your stone holder has, and what grit the stones are. If you over-hone, the new seals will fail because of too much clearance. I use WD40 while honing, and then clean up with Brakleen. Use a lot of Brakleen.... the WD40 gets into the pores of the metal. Finish up by wrapping some fine steel whool around a stone set, tight enough that you can force it into the bore. Give it several passes and then just clean it all up & lube it with your favorite brake fluid & install the new guts & clip. If there are no pits, rust, or gouges, I just do them with the steel whool. I do these quite regularly for local friends who want to retain their original M/C for NCRS reasons. I also media blast them & refinish them per the owners request/instructions. |
Originally Posted by Tom454
(Post 1558688668)
It's not that complicated...
You just pop the clip, remove the guts, clean it/hone it, install new guts. If the bore is pitted, use a fine grit hone if it needs honing- the hone can't have a "stop" on it as those used for calipers.... the stones need to go all the way to the inside... set the tension just enough so that they stay against the wall by themselves... centrifugal force will give them enough cutting power. There may be un-machined casting inside the end of the cylinder... avoid hitting it with the stones or they shatter. Don't mistake built-up sludge for rust or pits. Hone on a slow speed.... don't use the drill on high... need a variable speed drill. Stainless sleeved bores usually only require a clean-up... I never use stones on them, I use a stone set wrapped in fine steel whool, which is the finish step on a cast iron bore. If the pits don't clean up after about 20 or 30 slow passes, then you should have the unit sleeved or just replace it. (One pass = in & out) Only hone until the bore cleans up, then stop. The number of passes is a "guesstimate" because this depends on how much tension your stone holder has, and what grit the stones are. If you over-hone, the new seals will fail because of too much clearance. I use WD40 while honing, and then clean up with Brakleen. Use a lot of Brakleen.... the WD40 gets into the pores of the metal. Finish up by wrapping some fine steel whool around a stone set, tight enough that you can force it into the bore. Give it several passes and then just clean it all up & lube it with your favorite brake fluid & install the new guts & clip. If there are no pits, rust, or gouges, I just do them with the steel whool. I do these quite regularly for local friends who want to retain their original M/C for NCRS reasons. I also media blast them & refinish them per the owners request/instructions. |
Originally Posted by Jud Chapin
(Post 1558688833)
Thanks for the tips! Jud
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Originally Posted by Jud Chapin
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Thanks for the tips! Jud
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Originally Posted by Jud Chapin
(Post 1558688947)
Tom, on a related issue, I've got a leaking front caliper on my '76 which I'm rebuilding. However, the front m/c reservoir is full while the rear is empty, but I can find no leaks in the rear. Any ideas? (This is why I'm thinking of rebuilding my master).
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Originally Posted by Duke94
(Post 1558689713)
If the rear res. is empty, the fluid is leaking into the booster. better fix it soon so as to not trash the booster. I posted a bunch of pictures a while back on how to rebuild a M/C. Will try to find it and add it to this thread.
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Here's the link to the M/C rebuild thread. Pictures are about half way down.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...linder+rebuild |
Originally Posted by Duke94
(Post 1558691894)
Here's the link to the M/C rebuild thread. Pictures are about half way down.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...linder+rebuild Jud |
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