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Turbo6TA 04-08-2012 02:04 PM

Listening to iphone music on car's Bluetooth ?
 
My wife has an iPhone 4.

It obviously is Bluetooth capable. Well, my 2011 GS (without Nav) is supposidly Bluetooth capable too.

I understand that with Bluetooth, you don't need a wire connected between a person's Bluetooth cellphone and the Corvette's Bluetooth radio in order to listen to the cellphone over the car's speakers.?

My question ... My wife has music on here iPhone. Can she play it so as to listen to it through the audio system that's in this GS by somehow using the wireless Bluetooth that the car's radio supposidly has?

P.S. ... I don't have a clue how to use Bluetooth

Thank's :)

Supercrewbear 04-08-2012 02:07 PM

It won't work that way. All your Bluetooth/GS connection does is make and receive phone calls. Sorry! :)

:flag:

WAwatchnut 04-08-2012 02:16 PM

Bluetooth is a protocol that allows different types of devices to communicate with each other. There are many different profiles of devices that work within that protocol. So the GM Bluetooth implementation is set up to work with the "cell phone" profile, but it can't work the "music" profile.

Turbo6TA 04-08-2012 02:21 PM

Well, so much for that idea.

But here is another ... There is a little input connector on the upper right hand corner of the OEM radio.

Can a wire with that type of plug on the end be connected between the iPhone and the car's radio so I can listen to music that playing on the iPhone through the car's audio system?

If not, what the hell is that input jack on the car's radio even good for?

Turbo6TA 04-08-2012 02:42 PM

Unfortunatly my 2011 GS (2LT) with the standard Delco radio and no Nav does not have a USB connector anywhere in the car.

All I have is that real little input jack in the upper right side of the radio panel.

Still can't figure out what it's good for ... The iPhone don't have that kind of jack on it.

Maybe to connect to some cheap little hand held CD player?

georgec114 04-08-2012 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by Turbo6TA (Post 1580501867)
Well, so much for that idea.

But here is another ... There is a little input connector on the upper right hand corner of the OEM radio.

Can a wire with that type of plug on the end be connected between the iPhone and the car's radio so I can listen to music that playing on the iPhone through the car's audio system?

If not, what the hell is that input jack on the car's radio even good for?

Yes...Uses a standard 3.5mm stereo plug. Hit the AUX on the radio.
Plays from any standard MP3 player, etc. Most people at this point would say read the owner's manual. :D

Turbo6TA 04-08-2012 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by georgec114 (Post 1580502041)

Yes...Uses a standard 3.5mm stereo plug. Hit the AUX on the radio.
Plays from any standard MP3 player, etc. Most people at this point would say read the owner's manual. :D

I was waiting for that answer. :)

Yup ... I kinda figured it was to connect a little mobil CD player via a 3.5mm wire to the car's radio.

The deal is .... Obviously, the iPhone don't have a 3.5mm plug on it ... just a wire with your standard USB style plug.

Since my 2011 GS don't have a built-in USB connector like that other member's 2012 GS with 3LT has, do you know if they sell an adapter for the iPhones USB to connect into a 3.5mm stereo plug as found on the radio in my car?

See ... won't find that in the owner's manual! :)

My wife don't want to buy a little mobil CD player ... she want's to listen to music she has on her iPhone over the stereo in the Corvette (she has the same problem with her SUV too ... she can't listen to music from her iPhone on that vehicle's radio either even though the SUV has the optional Nav and the optional Infinity sound system).

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HANNY 04-08-2012 02:57 PM

i use the aux port with a stereo cord.

Weird thing about the bluetooth is you can hear voice memos thru the bluetooth but not music. YA THATS WEIRD that it can play that sound but wont do music. THEY need an app for that, lol

Bluewasp 04-08-2012 03:12 PM

Plug one end of the 3.5 wire into the headphone jack on the phone and the other on the input of the radio.

KevinZ51C6 04-08-2012 03:13 PM

Just buy the $169.99 USA-SPEC Iphone interface. They have a model specifically for the Vette. I run mine through my XM receiver in the trunk, however there are many ways to hook it up to the stock receiver, whether Nav/XM or not. Just google it, they sell them at Car Toys, ect.

Took me 2 hrs to install, if you can remove the console around the radio/cupholders/shifter, you can do it yourself. I run the cable out of the bottom of the e brake boot so when connected, the Iphone sits in the cupholder. It works great.

WAwatchnut 04-08-2012 03:13 PM

Are you sure the phone doesnt have a standard mini-jack (headphone jack) on it? Looking at my wifes iphone 4 right now, and its right on top of the phone.

If it doesnt have one, or you wNt to stick with bluetooth, Search on "Bluetooth stereo jack car" and you'll find lots of options. Here's a thread with some options

http://gdgt.com/discuss/a2dp-bluetoo...x-in-jack-1xn/

You want a Bluetooth stereo receiving device with a mini-jack output (to plug into your car aux jack) that is powered by 12v, or powered by USB, as you can get a 12v USB power supply.

vettenevodrvr 04-08-2012 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by Turbo6TA (Post 1580502104)
I was waiting for that answer. :)

Yup ... I kinda figured it was to connect a little mobil CD player via a 3.5mm wire to the car's radio.

The deal is .... Obviously, the iPhone don't have a 3.5mm plug on it ... just a wire with your standard USB style plug.

Since my 2011 GS don't have a built-in USB connector like that other member's 2012 GS with 3LT has, do you know if they sell an adapter for the iPhones USB to connect into a 3.5mm stereo plug as found on the radio in my car?

See ... won't find that in the owner's manual! :)

My wife don't want to buy a little mobil CD player ... she want's to listen to music she has on her iPhone over the stereo in the Corvette (she has the same problem with her SUV too ... she can't listen to music from her iPhone on that vehicle's radio either even though the SUV has the optional Nav and the optional Infinity sound system).

.

Just buy a cable with the 3.5 on both ends. Plug one end into the headphone jack of the iPhone and the other into the car's stereo. Just remember, this will drain the iPhone battery. You won't be able to control music tracks from the stereo.

Bluewasp 04-08-2012 03:15 PM

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Kadorja 04-08-2012 03:15 PM

It should have an audio jack....

http://www.itechelectronics.net/imag...7-420-90-1.jpg

Bluewasp 04-08-2012 03:18 PM

Like this cable

http://www.target.com/p/Griffin-6-FT...2/-/A-13651483

Turbo6TA 04-08-2012 03:19 PM

Kevin ... That's some good info, but at 170 bucks, how about Bluewasp's idea:

"Plug one end of the 3.5 wire into the headphone jack on the phone and the other on the input of the radio".

A little wire with a 3.5mm stereo connectors on each end might cost $1.98

WAwatchnut 04-08-2012 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by Turbo6TA (Post 1580502104)

The deal is .... Obviously, the iPhone don't have a 3.5mm plug on it ... just a wire with your standard USB style plug.

:crazy: you're the one who said it doesn't have the mini-jack on it

Turbo6TA 04-08-2012 03:23 PM

Kadorja ... Yup, there is the 3.5mm connector on the iPhone

Turbo6TA 04-08-2012 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by WAwatchnut (Post 1580502274)

:crazy: you're the one who said it doesn't have the mini-jack on it

I didn't think the iPhone had a mini jack on it like the car's radio has ... I just thought the iPhone had a USB.

Now I see that the iPhone does have a 3.5mm mini-jack for the headphones.

Bluewasp told me the iPhone had a mini-jack (for the headphone buds) ... I quoted him in blue

georgec114 04-08-2012 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by Turbo6TA (Post 1580502263)
Kevin ... That's some good info, but at 170 bucks, how about Bluewasp's idea:

"Plug one end of the 3.5 wire into the headphone jack on the phone and the other on the input of the radio".

A little wire with a 3.5mm stereo connectors on each end might cost $1.98

Geez...Isn't this what I posted? I didn't think I had to show pictures of
your phone to make the connection.

BTW, one option so many people ignore is to burn some CDs with your MP3 music on and use the player built in to your radio. If you have the 6 CD player, it stores hundreds of files. All controlled from the steering wheel or radio.:thumbs:

Turbo6TA 04-08-2012 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by georgec114 (Post 1580502307)

BTW, one option so many people ignore is to burn some CDs with your MP3 music on and use the player built in to your radio. If you have the 6 CD player, it stores hundreds of files. All controlled from the steering wheel or radio.:thumbs:

That's exactly what I used do. However, the Gov shut down LimeWire, so I don't have a source anymore to download free MP3 files and burn them to a CD.

Personally, I could care less about listening to music my wife has on her iPhone ... She just asked me if there was a way to listen to her iPhone music through the car's audio system ... hense my silly questions to everyone here.

Turbo6TA 04-08-2012 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by vettenevodrvr (Post 1580502234)
Just buy a cable with the 3.5 on both ends. Plug one end into the headphone jack of the iPhone and the other into the car's stereo.

Just remember, this will drain the iPhone battery.

You won't be able to control music tracks from the stereo.

Well, my wife does have a recharger wire that plugs into the cigarette lighter, so she can keep the iPhone charged while in the car.

But, you have a point about not being able to control the music tracks from the car's radio or steering wheel controls ... but she can do that with the iPhone herself.

I just wonder how good the sound quality would be from the iPhone being attached to the car's audio system though a wire with 3.5mm stereo plugs on each end?

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Kadorja 04-08-2012 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by Turbo6TA (Post 1580502367)
Well, my wife does have a recharger wire that plugs into the cigarette lighter, so she can keep the iPhone charged while in the car.

But, you have a point about not being able to control the music tracks from the car's radio or steering wheel controls ... but she can do that with the iPhone herself.

I just wonder how good the sound quality would be from the iPhone being attached to the car's audio system though a wire with 3.5mm stereo plugs on each end?

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I have my iPod connected to the charger in the center console. I've left it plugged in overnight but I usually try to unhook it just in case it will drain the battery too much. I have the 3.5mm cable running from the iPod to the radio out of the center console. It doesn't get in the way and doesn't look too bad sticking out.

As for quality I haven't noticed any drop in quality from the regular radio stations to my iPod. I would make sure the EQs are both set up fairly close to each other if you can change both of them. I have a cheap-o cable and it works great.

Either get a good mix setup or have it somewhere where you can easily change the songs.

Turbo6TA 04-08-2012 04:02 PM

Ok .... Thank's everyone for all the great info you have provided.

I am just going to buy a cheap wire with a 3.5mm stereo plug on each end from Radio Shack and connect that between the iPhones headset plug and the plug on the car radio.

If it works, it works ... if it sounds like crap, I will dump the wire and tell my wife to start listening to CDs .. and use her iPhone to make telephone calls like it was intended for in the first place.

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sportcruiser 04-08-2012 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by Turbo6TA (Post 1580502476)
Ok .... Thank's everyone for all the great info you have provided.

I am just going to buy a cheap wire with a 3.5mm stereo plug on each end and connect that between the iPhones headset plug and the plug on the car radio.

If it works, it works ... if it sounds like crap, I will dump the wire and tell my wife to start listening to CDs .. and use her iPhone to make telephone calls like it was intended for in the first place.

.

There are also several options that will also charge your phone, while you connect through the AUX port. I recommend one of these, as you can charge your iPhone or iPad while you use it.

bearphoto 04-08-2012 04:39 PM

If the music sounds good from the ipod, it will sound good from the cars stereo speakers. I use mine with my coupe that does not have the nav. Its a 4LT 09 GT1 coupe but if the car has nav, it will not have the mp3 connector on the dash. Enjoy, be sure to set the radio to Aux!

John in MD 04-08-2012 06:17 PM

When you first plug it in and switch to AUX you might not hear anything. If this happens, turn up the volume on the iPod/iPhone. The first time I tried it I thought it was broken just because I had the iPhone volume too low.

Sound quality going this way isn't as good as going through USB, but it is acceptable.

I just ordered a Kenwood DDX-719 from DoubleDMods so I can just plug in and charge the iPhone at the same time. This unit will also display the Garmin nav screen which is pretty cool.

John

salmonarmvette 04-09-2012 03:27 AM

Here is another option for you. Do a search for Techmart Wireless FM transmitter for Ipod iphone. I have one for my ipod it just plugs into the bottom of the ipod etc. and set the fm radio to an unused frequency and the same on the transmitter and your in business. Also it recharge the ipod through the cig lighter. Works like a damn.

Wideout 04-09-2012 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by John in MD (Post 1580503282)
I just ordered a Kenwood DDX-719 from DoubleDMods so I can just plug in and charge the iPhone at the same time. This unit will also display the Garmin nav screen which is pretty cool.

John

You're going to love it. I just had the 719 installed last week (bought from Dennis as well) and am very satisfied. I had the rear camera installed...that works great too.

As a consequence, the newer Kenwoods do support streaming audio via bluetooth (including the DDX719).

"Built-In Bluetooth A2DP Music Streaming - Enjoy wireless music playback from your Bluetooth device like a smartphone or tablet via Bluetooth through your in-dash receiver."

sportcruiser 04-09-2012 09:47 AM

All,

Just be aware that BlueTooth will degrade the sound quality noticeably versus being directly connected, and given that your iPod already degrades the sound significantly versus the CD, you are working your way back towards LP-like sound quality. Just wanted you to know. Don't use an FM transmitter unless you are VERY tolerant of poor sound quality, static and music bleeding over from others doing the same as you pass them on the street.

weathermaker 04-09-2012 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by sportcruiser (Post 1580507456)
All,

Just be aware that BlueTooth will degrade the sound quality noticeably versus being directly connected, and given that your iPod already degrades the sound significantly versus the CD, you are working your way back towards LP-like sound quality. Just wanted you to know. Don't use an FM transmitter unless you are VERY tolerant of poor sound quality, static and music bleeding over from others doing the same as you pass them on the street.

See post #2!

Wideout 04-10-2012 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by sportcruiser (Post 1580507456)
All,

Just be aware that BlueTooth will degrade the sound quality noticeably versus being directly connected, and given that your iPod already degrades the sound significantly versus the CD, you are working your way back towards LP-like sound quality. Just wanted you to know. Don't use an FM transmitter unless you are VERY tolerant of poor sound quality, static and music bleeding over from others doing the same as you pass them on the street.

Yep, I think we all realize that CD is better quality than aux/Ipod or Bluetooth. It's also pretty obvious that buying digital media online has overtaken CD sales and is the norm now. Having more options to connect and play digital files or stream music is what I'm after. I don't blast my stereo very often so the slightly lesser quality sound doesn't typically bother me. It is hardly noticeable at low or medium volumes.

You're right though, I don't know why anyone would use an FM transmitter these days.

Don-Vette 04-10-2012 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by Turbo6TA (Post 1580501867)
Well, so much for that idea.

But here is another ... There is a little input connector on the upper right hand corner of the OEM radio.

Can a wire with that type of plug on the end be connected between the iPhone and the car's radio so I can listen to music that playing on the iPhone through the car's audio system?

If not, what the hell is that input jack on the car's radio even good for?

Thats how I connect my Droid Razr phone to listen to my music on my phone and for internet radio(pandora,slacker) I even have a neat phone holder that fits in the cup holder. Just go out and buy a 3.5mm audio cable for $10!!

Don-Vette 04-10-2012 09:32 AM

Cup holder mount.....

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...2/DSCN0328.jpg

WAwatchnut 04-10-2012 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by sportcruiser (Post 1580507456)
All,

Just be aware that BlueTooth will degrade the sound quality noticeably versus being directly connected... Don't use an FM transmitter unless you are VERY tolerant of poor sound quality, static and music bleeding over from others doing the same as you pass them on the street.

:iagree:

It's a shame that more companies haven't adopted the lossless Bluetooth audio codec that was published, and instead continue to use A2DP. :ack: But that's purely a reflection of consumer wants.



Originally Posted by sportcruiser (Post 1580507456)
given that your iPod already degrades the sound significantly versus the CD, you are working your way back towards LP-like sound quality.

The iPod doesn't degrade song quality. Poor lossy recordings stored on an IPod degrade SQ. The iPhone/iPod use pretty high quality Wolfson DACs, so theyre really not the culprit.

And LPs really don't have bad SQ either. Well mastered LPs with good quality playback devices (needle, turntable, etc) can arguably sound better than CDs.

sportcruiser 04-10-2012 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by WAwatchnut (Post 1580518293)
:iagree:

It's a shame that more companies haven't adopted the lossless Bluetooth audio codec that was published, and instead continue to use A2DP. :ack: But that's purely a reflection of consumer wants.




The iPod doesn't degrade song quality. Poor lossy recordings stored on an IPod degrade SQ. The iPhone/iPod use pretty high quality Wolfson DACs, so theyre really not the culprit.

And LPs really don't have bad SQ either. Well mastered LPs with good quality playback devices (needle, turntable, etc) can arguably sound better than CDs.

I understand the theory, and I understand that it is not the iPod that degrades the sound, but rather it's the nature of the compression used on the audio files that degrades the sound. Still, if you take the exact same music and do a head-to-head bake off in your car, you will hear a major difference between the iPod and the CD.

Regarding LP's, sure, with the very best equipment and a brand new LP that is not warn they sound pretty good, but in a practical sense, for the average person, there is little comparison; and if I recall, the CD has about 15db more dynamic range.

In any event, do what I did, go buy Amaryllis by Shinedown on iTunes and CD (and LP if you so desire), and play them both in your car. The CD is markedly better sounding... more range and much sharper. I was surprised too.

brooklync5 04-10-2012 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by Turbo6TA (Post 1580501867)
Well, so much for that idea.

But here is another ... There is a little input connector on the upper right hand corner of the OEM radio.

Can a wire with that type of plug on the end be connected between the iPhone and the car's radio so I can listen to music that playing on the iPhone through the car's audio system?

If not, what the hell is that input jack on the car's radio even good for?

Yes you can!!

sportcruiser 04-10-2012 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by Wideout (Post 1580515957)
Yep, I think we all realize that CD is better quality than aux/Ipod or Bluetooth. It's also pretty obvious that buying digital media online has overtaken CD sales and is the norm now. Having more options to connect and play digital files or stream music is what I'm after. I don't blast my stereo very often so the slightly lesser quality sound doesn't typically bother me. It is hardly noticeable at low or medium volumes.

You're right though, I don't know why anyone would use an FM transmitter these days.

Yeah, and while I "realized" CD was better, I was surprised just how much better. I see people posting about improving their sound system all of the time... kind of ironic as we have all chosen to degrade the input. :)

bimmerborn 04-10-2012 06:49 PM

I have a DIY for what you want to do. Please see the following link.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...adio-08-a.html

jh61408 04-12-2012 08:17 PM

Use this for your iPhone as it will charge and control it with your controls on your steering wheel, Best unit out there.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...te-owners.html

LJD51 04-12-2012 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by Turbo6TA (Post 1580502013)
Unfortunatly my 2011 GS (2LT) with the standard Delco radio and no Nav does not have a USB connector anywhere in the car.

All I have is that real little input jack in the upper right side of the radio panel.

Still can't figure out what it's good for ... The iPhone don't have that kind of jack on it.

Maybe to connect to some cheap little hand held CD player?

You can listen to the music on the iPod on the phone or you can listen to Pandora; both use the Aux on the OE head unit...

sportcruiser 04-12-2012 10:54 PM

I have one of these. Not as elegant as the PAL, but it charges the phone and plays music.

http://compare.ebay.com/like/3505502..._lwgsi=y&cbt=y

jh61408 04-13-2012 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by sportcruiser (Post 1580541964)
I have one of these. Not as elegant as the PAL, but it charges the phone and plays music.

http://compare.ebay.com/like/3505502..._lwgsi=y&cbt=y

You have to plug in two things with that, Besides the mess of cables running through your car, Nice and cheap way of doing it. But i prefer a cleaner install, just my preference.

On a Corvette, You could plug it in under the armrest console, but the AUX input is on the Deck. With the PAL/ V2 Unit everything is hidden, Very clean install. Some corvette don't have the AUX input so you are back to something else. My suggestion would be the PAL unit from Ray. :cool:

sportcruiser 04-13-2012 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by jh61408 (Post 1580546621)
You have to plug in two things with that, Besides the mess of cables running through your car, Nice and cheap way of doing it. But i prefer a cleaner install, just my preference.

On a Corvette, You could plug it in under the armrest console, but the AUX input is on the Deck. With the PAL/ V2 Unit everything is hidden, Very clean install. Some corvette don't have the AUX input so you are back to something else. My suggestion would be the PAL unit from Ray. :cool:

As I said, not as elegant; but it is functionally equivalent if you don't have NAV.

jh61408 04-13-2012 05:34 PM

@sportcruiser - Not sure what you mean by "functionally equivalent", As the pal unit, you have use of controls on steering wheel as it will change or switch to next track. It also does it on Pandora also, I am sure you would have the same functions with a NAV units too, Plus the functionally of playlist's and Podcasts listed on the display of the radio.

I am sure you don't have use of steering wheel control with that style, I have used one similar in style on another vehicle i own as they did not make a unit to integrate the iPhone to my Radio. As i really like using my phone for my music. It works pretty good, but you have to manually change tracks or what ever on the phone. It sure beats the FM transmitters, they are just plain terrible.

It sure beats XM and regular radio stations with the use of Pandora, I wished they had some sort of News cast on Pandora, also XM sounds quality is not that great.

txsugar08 04-26-2013 10:03 PM


Originally Posted by Supercrewbear (Post 1580501802)
It won't work that way. All your Bluetooth/GS connection does is make and receive phone calls. Sorry! :)

:flag:

There has to be a way because if you use Google Maps on you phone you can hear the turn by turn direction throught your car speakers.


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