ps374

[QUOTE=kageryu311;1577288135]First of all you don't make sense. Use proper punctuation and grammar before posting and make sure re-read your posts before submitting them.

Secondly, the GT-R or "ZR1" as you stated in your post here is not a rebadged Z Car, it is based off of the lineage of the Nissan Skyline GT-R.

Third, the resale values on GT-Rs shows to depreciate at a slower rate than Z06s and ZR1s.

Fourth, to address the crowd drawing ability, most average people see a ZR1 as another Corvette. When an average person sees a GT-R they don't know what it is. My friend drove his car to the mall last year and got numerous thumbs up as well people taking pictures.


The GTR is based on the FM platform which is SHARED with the 350 Z car. I dont know what cars shows you attend but pull up with a Z06 C6 and you will see three to four people gathering around it. Pull up with a ZR1 and a gathering of five to ten people looking and asking questions. The ZR1 is the king of Corvettes respected by even the German auto motive writters. My spelling may stink and my grammer may even be worse but the GTR falls short of the ZR1 in all areas of performance. Edmunds did a test video of both cars. In the end the writers show the GTR sitting still with the ZR1 blowing smoke rings around it. A fitting picture indeed.

gilly6993

Huh?

All cars loose value and actually the GT-R holds its value....actually better that the corvette and I know that for a fact....

Is that based on fact or assumption?

I have no comment for that except it's completely false....

Another comment I don't quite understand.....


So I guess you're still living in 2009....when the test and video were done....

pcguy2u

Just in case you guys missed this thread..........

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...11-zr1-in.html

kageryu311

Incorrect. The GT-R is a completely different concept. The CBA (2009-2011) and DBA (2012) chassis which are completely different from the 350z.


And you pull up in a GT-R you will have people walk up to it in a car show. Some wondering what it is and asking questions.

The ZR1 is the king of Corvettes and just like the ZR1 the GT-R is respected by International automotive writers.

The ZR1 does in fact beat the GT-R in most areas of performance but that review was from 2009. The 2012 GT-R has many marked improvements from the previous model GT-R. There is even a video floating around of the GT-R doing a lap around the Nurburgring faster than the ZR1.

Also you have to remember the GT-R is about $15-20K cheaper than the ZR1. It has incredible peformance for the price.

Guibo

The GT-R has a different platform designation, PM. Its wheelbase is far different from the 350Z, and the 350Z platform will not accomodate a transaxle, nor the return driveshaft powering the front wheels as found on the GT-R. Nor do the two share any bodywork or interior components. You cannot say the same about the Z06 and ZR1.

The Germans do respect the ZR1, but they have ranked the '10 GT-R higher than the ZR1 (and faster on a track on the same day). They have also ranked the GT-R higher than the 997 Turbo.

spicytuna

The ZR1 and GT-R both attract their share of crowds.

The difference is that one group is old enough to be the grandparents of the other group.

hbvette07

Now that is funny.

Based on price of each car shouldn't we compare the GT-R to the Z06 like Motortrend did last month in which the GT-R beat the Z06 in every category.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...son/index.html

Dave68

I'd like to see how the new GTR does at VIR where the Z07-optioned Z06 is a full 2 seconds faster than the first gen GTR. The fastest car tested by Car & Driver is the Mosler MT900S with a time of 2:45.9.

hbvette07

That is not a very good comparison because there are tuners producing 6-7-and 800HP GT-R monsters also.

I personally hope that GM steps up its game and produces a C7 that competes with and beats the competition.

trapp

Bottom line.....

The 2012 GTR is fast because of its electronics, clutch and AWD. Unless the Corvette develops a AWD with all the nannies then they are going to fall behind...and have fallen behind. I enjoy the viseral part of driving and just bought a 2011 corvette.....The GTR was faster but boring for me....I enjoy the sound, manual clutch of the vette..

Dave68

The Mosler, of course, is priced way beyond most of the cars it ran against but the Z07-equipped Z06 is available at almost any Chevy dealership. It is priced right in line with the new GTR.

hbvette07

You know it is a nice looking and good performing car but at 95K+ I'll still go with the AWD, and DCT of the GT-R. Not to mention a quality interior, and steel verses plastic body panels. But with that said I'm still waiting to see if GM steps up with the C7, and I may just turn into a red neck once again.

Stewart Allison

What's wrong with a placky body ? It doesn't rust, easy to repair and has a much better impact rebound zone per panel no dents ! Stewy

Stewart Allison

Is the GTR faster than the Corvette ZR1 I didn't know that ? Stewy

Stewart Allison

I still don't see the VIR as a clear bench mark for performance. Run these cars over 6 laps wide open throttle and see the results. The Japs in "Best Motoring" I personally think had the best way of doing it. Stewy

Stewart Allison

A factory stock GTR wont beat a ZR1 around a track. I have a German car friend that hangs out at the ring nearly every day and tells me he has never seen a pure stock GTR on the ring. They all have a tweak here and there ! Any way who cares the GTR is a performance animal just like the ZR1 Stewy

Guibo

How would your friend know if all of those GT-Rs are stock? Did he look under the hood? BS, he did.
Here's a stock GT-R beating a ZR1 around a track.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...beats-zr1.html

And don't start any crap about that GT-R being modified. The ZR1 beat it by .6s to 100 kph despite the Nissan's AWD, and continued to clobber it to 200 kph by nearly 2 seconds.

PDCjonny

What an inane statement.

pcguy2u

I know it's early and I just got up, but what is it about the seeming contradiction above???

Confused as usual............

Dave68

Initially a GTR fanboy, then a ZR1 fanboy.....