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Old 06-27-2012, 11:16 AM
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are 160 temp stats worth installing?? I have a ls2 (07) and was wondering if and how much the cooler temps would help. any info is helpful. just purchased a C6 vert.
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If they were good for your engine, why didn't GM put one in there originally?
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Without a tune it will drop the temps while you are cruzing. Once you hit the red lights the temps will go back to what you are use to seeing. With a tune the fans will be set to come on at an earlier temp, and the temp will remain constant, probably about 180 to 190.
I mentioned a tune.....I assume you can set your fans to come on sooner without actually doing the tune.
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Oh no, not another one. Didn't the last "160º stat" thread go to like 20 pages?
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Yes it did, search please then make your own decision. I hope the mods lock this one down before ethe whole site crashes...lol
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http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...mp-issues.html

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...mostats-2.html

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...ermo-guys.html

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...-160-stat.html

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-t...hermostat.html
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Originally Posted by JimTN
If they were good for your engine, why didn't GM put one in there originally?
Same with headers....those things are not factory. lol

Originally Posted by EVRose
Oh no, not another one. Didn't the last "160º stat" thread go to like 20 pages?
It was more than 20. haha

Bet it gets at least 3 more by 2014....any takers?
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Old 06-27-2012, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by boraxman
Pass the popcorn, please. And a beer, if you have a spare.
Old 06-27-2012, 01:33 PM
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annnd were off!!
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put one in
modify your tune
call it a day
or sit and wait for another one of these long legthy debates/pissing matches/what eva ya wanna call it

will it help??? all depends, there are just to many variables/what if's/etc

to me... it certainly helps get rid of some heat, and can even help with interior temps
at least we noticed a difference in my wifes 05

i also never had problems with 160 stats in frigid cold temps either
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My C5Z ran great with one, but it was tuned also. Very cool (no pun) to see the thermostat nice and low on the dash. I have no experience with one in an LS3 however.
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Originally Posted by JimTN
If they were good for your engine, why didn't GM put one in there originally?


Exactly


I have a friend who works at a southern cal dealership and he says they are designed to run like that-- what most of us would consider Hot

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Originally Posted by JimTN
If they were good for your engine, why didn't GM put one in there originally?
With that kind of analogy, there is much better leather out there so why does GM not use it? There are much better car audio systems out there why does GM not use them? Obviously I can on & on.
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Originally Posted by pokerpro
With that kind of analogy, there is much better leather out there so why does GM not use it? There are much better car audio systems out there why does GM not use them? Obviously I can on & on.
Not really the same thing... the thermostat is less than $30 and would be negligible on the pricing of the car. Upgraded leather would have driven your base cost up by $5k. Bose makes big contracts with a lot of car makers and that is how the price is kept low. If they were to go with Bang & Olufson, your cost goes up by over $5k. Two VERY bad comparison points

There's one reason right there. Reason number two is that these cars are designed to run hot. Have you ever tracked your Z with coolant temps down in the 150-160* range with that 160* thermostat? The car will run like a dog.
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Originally Posted by EVRose
Oh no, not another one. Didn't the last "160º stat" thread go to like 20 pages?
I like mine and the tune
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This recent thread has some good info on the desirability, or not, of lower oil temps.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...al-number.html

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Do a search for posts by forum member Evil-Twin.

He provides very useful information pertaining to 160 stats. He is a retired GM engineer who worked on the C5.

The sweet spot for LS engines, according to E-T, is 190/200 coolant and 200/210 oil.
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Originally Posted by wysiwyg
Do a search for posts by forum member Evil-Twin.

He provides very useful information pertaining to 160 stats. He is a retired GM engineer who worked on the C5.

The sweet spot for LS engines, according to E-T, is 190/200 coolant and 200/210 oil.
Here we go with being an engineer.....I know a few people who were for GM. One of them designed part of the dash in the 3rd gen F-body and the other designed carbs in the 60s/70s. They dont know everything about every single part.

Was he the one who designed the engine around running the factory stat? If he I take back my first parts of this messages.
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Originally Posted by TLS_Addict
Here we go with being an engineer.....I know a few people who were for GM. One of them designed part of the dash in the 3rd gen F-body and the other designed carbs in the 60s/70s. They dont know everything about every single part.

Was he the one who designed the engine around running the factory stat? If he I take back my first parts of this messages.
Bill, Evil-Twin, was the GM Engineer who was responsible for the oil life monitoring system in the C5. He is more than qualified to speak on this topic. He knows exactly what the effects of varying oil temps and coolant temps from design intent impacts as well as first hand knowledge of tests involving both.



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