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Old 04-12-2010, 05:42 PM
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What sparked this? Did too many people ask you about this already in the last week or what?
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Good info everyone should be aware of. I have seen bad grounds cause some odd problems.
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just did a rebuild and had the drive line out.
low oil level with no code on the reader .no fuel at rail but pump primes(whines).i just bought the 04 service man..looks like this ground issue will fix me.
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Old 09-27-2010, 08:53 AM
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Bump for a very worthwhile post from Luck.

Grounds (or lack of) can be a real source of headaches for us guys with our plastic cars. I think too many people take them for granted until they have a problem and then wind up chasing a problem that many times is intermittent in nature. The worst kind.

Despite not having any current electrical issues (other than an apparent flaky ignition switch that will get replaced later this week), I have chosen to take the precautionary step of adding a couple extra grounds. One from the case of the alternator to ground stud at G101 and the other from the R/H cylinder head to ground stud G102. These are very easy to add and only need approx 14" of wire with a ring terminal on each end, 5/16" on one end and 3/8" on the other. An "Ounce of prevention" kind of thing.
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Originally Posted by LoneStarFRC
Bump for a very worthwhile post from Luck.

Grounds (or lack of) can be a real source of headaches for us guys with our plastic cars. I think too many people take them for granted until they have a problem and then wind up chasing a problem that many times is intermittent in nature. The worst kind.

Despite not having any current electrical issues (other than an apparent flaky ignition switch that will get replaced later this week), I have chosen to take the precautionary step of adding a couple extra grounds. One from the case of the alternator to ground stud at G101 and the other from the R/H cylinder head to ground stud G102. These are very easy to add and only need approx 14" of wire with a ring terminal on each end, 5/16" on one end and 3/8" on the other. An "Ounce of prevention" kind of thing.
That's what fixed my column lock problem. I ran a ground wire from G202 to the negative side of the battery cable.
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fired up today,
ran a ground from the rail to the frame ,bingo!!
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Originally Posted by z06 vett
fired up today,
ran a ground from the rail to the frame ,bingo!!
mike
Rail?
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Originally Posted by lucky131969
Rail?
You know, where the big train wheels are.

Good post Lucky. Some of those grounds can be a real bastard to find without shop manual pics.
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Originally Posted by Nver2loud
What sparked this? Did too many people ask you about this already in the last week or what?
Hell YES!! You would be amazed at the number of people that either leave G-106 OFF or Connect it to the SOLENOID +12 Terminal. We are continuously providing assistance with ground issues and the ones Lucky has highlighted are frequently high on the list!

The Engine grounds are LOW, out of sight and difficult to get to

People often have no idea that there there or even important.

OUTSTANDING Job Lucky!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Nver2loud
What sparked this? Did too many people ask you about this already in the last week or what?


Nver2loud

This post was posted earlier today!!!

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...post1579202653

See.... It happens ALL THE TIME!

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Just came in from the garage after finding my G105 loose while chasing an electrical problem. That may be all it is. I'll know tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by WKMCD
Just came in from the garage after finding my G105 loose while chasing an electrical problem. That may be all it is. I'll know tomorrow.
Hope the FIX was as easy as that!

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Originally Posted by Bill Curlee
Hope the FIX was as easy as that!

Bill
I've already gone through the ground blocks on the front of the frame by the hood hinges. When I went to put the battery back in I noticed the brass adapter bolt I have so I can hook up the amps is stripped and wouldn't tighten up. I didn't notice it loose when I took it out but it's highly possible it was. I'll get it back together tomorrow and see what happens. If that doesn't do it....it's into the driver's door accordian.

Thanks to both Bill and Lucky!
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Great info. I'll be using this when the engine goes back in. I have a bad habit of missing connectors. And this thing has a ton of em!!
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The most common ground mistakes are G105 G106 and G107. There easy to forget about. Quite frequently people often put the wire for ground G106 on the STARTER SOLENOID!!!

You will be amazed the FUN that causes!
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why isnt this a sticky ???????????????? or in the stickys. had to GOOGLE to find it after a day of looking.

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Old 03-23-2012, 10:48 AM
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Excellent info. and wiring diagrams lucky!

Bill Curlee has also been preaching the importance of good electrical grounds for many years.

Ground connections can be so easily overlooked when you're anxious to get that new engine bolted in and fired up.
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Something else to consider or should I say watch out for is, Make sure that you don't attach ground wire G-106 to the starter solenoid by mistake. It has an eyelet on the wire that fits on the starter lug just fine.

Mike and I have seen this issue too many times not to warn people in advance of the mistake.

Yep, All the engine grounds are very important and frequently overlooked or discarded as insignificant wires.

Far from the truth!

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Originally Posted by Bill Curlee
discarded as insignificant wires.

Thats like the extra parts box...


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