I Feel Sick...
#1
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I Feel Sick...
About to let someone else work on my car for the first time. Not that it'll be the last but I was just hoping to do everything myself...
Now if someone asks if I did all the work myself i'll have to say no.
Getting the #2/3 body mounts welded on. I have a welder but not the time or skill yet to attempt it. I'd rather someone helped me, letting it get back on the road quicker.
Also, how bad, be honest. Easiest way to fix? I know they make replacement parts for this area but i didn't know if the welder could patch it together for a while longer till my skills got good enough to fix it... If it can't be patched i can tell you I won't be getting it fixed till I can do it myself....
Now if someone asks if I did all the work myself i'll have to say no.
Getting the #2/3 body mounts welded on. I have a welder but not the time or skill yet to attempt it. I'd rather someone helped me, letting it get back on the road quicker.
Also, how bad, be honest. Easiest way to fix? I know they make replacement parts for this area but i didn't know if the welder could patch it together for a while longer till my skills got good enough to fix it... If it can't be patched i can tell you I won't be getting it fixed till I can do it myself....
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I'm guessing the differential crossmember probably has a lot of weak metal in it also. Those areas you show in the pics are criticial structural points so a good repair is very important.
My original 72 frame looked similar. That's why I decided to replace the frame. I was concerned that the rest of the metal was thinner than it should be and might become a safety issue.
Rick B.
My original 72 frame looked similar. That's why I decided to replace the frame. I was concerned that the rest of the metal was thinner than it should be and might become a safety issue.
Rick B.
#4
Melting Slicks
No, it cannot wait... your entire rear suspension hangs from those pockets. I am of the opinion from looking at your photos that an effective repair might be a challenge seeing the inside of the "pockets" and seeing the rust induced swelling and separation in the structure. The only way I am aware of to repair such delamination is to cut it out and replace the damaged steel. I am glad you decided to seek assistance here and hope the person you have coming to look has previous frame repair experience. From where I sit this is not a simple "plate it from the outside and call it good" situation.
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Wow Seriously? Looks like you and I are in the same situation. The only difference is I felt *relieved* to drop my frame off with a pro, knowing that I wouldn't screw up the very foundation my entire project is based on.
With mine, I had some pack rust (just like yours) so I bought two new kick-up reinforcements from Paragon. Here's a link ---> https://www.paragoncorvette.com/p-35...cement-lh.aspx
The fab guy cut the old ones off and removed the pack rust. While he was in there he cut in a few patches too. I have mine back now and I'm glad I didn't try to fix this myself. I don't regret it for a second.
I can take better pics if you're interested. Here's a few before and after pics....and yes, mine was much worse than yours appears to be.
With mine, I had some pack rust (just like yours) so I bought two new kick-up reinforcements from Paragon. Here's a link ---> https://www.paragoncorvette.com/p-35...cement-lh.aspx
The fab guy cut the old ones off and removed the pack rust. While he was in there he cut in a few patches too. I have mine back now and I'm glad I didn't try to fix this myself. I don't regret it for a second.
I can take better pics if you're interested. Here's a few before and after pics....and yes, mine was much worse than yours appears to be.
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That's kinda why i didn't want to post these, not for the honesty but for some of the comments that I don't find fitting or useful.
OTHER than replacing i'd rather hear about option for fixing....as it's either sell what's left and not own it or fix mine with what i have at my disposal(other than my millions of dollars i'd like to keep to roll around in on my bed when i get lonely)
OTHER than replacing i'd rather hear about option for fixing....as it's either sell what's left and not own it or fix mine with what i have at my disposal(other than my millions of dollars i'd like to keep to roll around in on my bed when i get lonely)
#8
Burning Brakes
Not that bad. I've seen many frames worse. Weld in new metal. It will be fine and good for another 40 years.
Definitely seek a professional welder. Know your limitations and don't feel bad about getting help. This is 100% your project.
Definitely seek a professional welder. Know your limitations and don't feel bad about getting help. This is 100% your project.
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Check out GD70's thread and see what can be done..
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-g...y-vette-3.html
I am thinking this is very fixable after seeing the above thread.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-g...y-vette-3.html
I am thinking this is very fixable after seeing the above thread.
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It's just for the normal person with not much knowledge of the Amish probably don't picture them welding car frames....
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Le Mans Master
This might come in handy in the future...if you ever want a roof put on or a pole barn/shop built, it's hard to beat the Amish for speed, quality, and price.
BTW, I think your frame looks OK and very fixable. There's looks like a lot of solid metal there...and just being sandblasted you know exactly what is left is good. Hard to tell in the pics, but the fronts of the kickups and the rails look very solid too.
BTW, I think your frame looks OK and very fixable. There's looks like a lot of solid metal there...and just being sandblasted you know exactly what is left is good. Hard to tell in the pics, but the fronts of the kickups and the rails look very solid too.
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If you have a mig welder already, it should take you about a week of practice to develop the skills to repair that yourself. A few dollars worth of scrap metals in the like thickness of the frame material from a local scrap yard will get you going. Talk to your welder for advice or direction if you need, then it will still be " all yours"
#16
Drifting
Don't look at this "sublet" as a setback or a show of you limitations, a real pro knows when to call in an expert and doesn't let his pride get in the way. You're on the right track having an expert do these inportant repairs.
#17
Dont worry... Great frame to start with and in condition 9 of 10!!!!! Ive repaired a lot worse that shouldve been scrapped.... but done correctly and some extra strength welds put in and youll be fine...