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Old 03-20-2005, 03:01 PM
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It took me about 1 day to get use to it. No big deal. I like having no keys , keys leave scratches on the car entry area.
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Originally Posted by John George
Yes. Quickly. Much ado about nothing.

Old 03-20-2005, 03:40 PM
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It is a convenience, but I'd rather have a key. Having to carry bulky fobs is a nuisance, particularly if you carry the keys to several vehicles as I normally do. Having to worry about electrical problems and gremlins preventing entry or starting is a nuisance. Having to worry about dead batteries is more than a nuisance. Etc. Keys are simple, compact, and any semi-skilled hardware store clerk can make you a spare for 50 cents.
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Happens quick the car will remind you if you forget.
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Mine had a warning tag around the gear shift. After a few days of having it become a habit, I removed it. Had the no key feature in the Benz. It was called keyless Go and I appreciate still having it.
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If you'll pardon the pun, putting the manual 6 in reverse when shutting down becomes automatic...
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I have no problem putting in reverse when shutting it off. The problem I have is when I get in and start up remembering that it's in reverse. I'm so used to starting up and shifting into reverse to back out of the garage that now I'm always shifting form reverse to first and trying to back out. But I love the keyless ignition.
Old 03-20-2005, 06:37 PM
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Default old Hydra Matic Tranny

The50ties Hydramatic used reverse for park . Us old guys rembember.Wife and I love Auto on our Sept C6 pr.Weather getting warm in AZ.
Old 03-21-2005, 12:17 AM
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The keyless entry and start is a huge convenience.
doesn't take long to get used to that or the "reverse at exit" trick, even if you're an old dog. Once this gets to the mainstream, keys are a thing of the past. No one would want a key after they've tried this for a while.
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Originally Posted by bugman
The keyless entry and start is a huge convenience.
doesn't take long to get used to that or the "reverse at exit" trick, even if you're an old dog.
Yep, I think the keyless start is really cool. And it
only took me one time with the car beeping at me
because I'd forgotten to leave it reverse to get me
to remember to put it in reverse.

The thing I'm a little more concerned with is the
keyless unlocking. I admit I haven't played around
with various scenarios to tell you precisely what
bothers me but something is lurking.

Here's a question for all you RF engineers: how does
the car know the key fob is inside the car?

Pat
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Signal strength most likely.
Old 03-21-2005, 01:26 AM
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mine won't let me open the door unless it's in rev. You can over ride that by hitting the unlock button but by that time I believe one knows something is amiss.
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Originally Posted by JJayzX
Signal strength most likely.
But do you think the strength is detectably higher
just outside the door than inside a jacket pocket
on the driver's left side? We're talking inches of
difference.

Pat
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Inside to outside of the car makes a difference. When outside the frame of the car would weaken signal before it gets in and inside the car is probably very clear. I don't know how else it would know. Just my idea.
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Originally Posted by catpat8000
Yep, I think the keyless start is really cool. And it
only took me one time with the car beeping at me
because I'd forgotten to leave it reverse to get me
to remember to put it in reverse.

The thing I'm a little more concerned with is the
keyless unlocking. I admit I haven't played around
with various scenarios to tell you precisely what
bothers me but something is lurking.

Here's a question for all you RF engineers: how does
the car know the key fob is inside the car?

Pat
I read somewhere that the car has three receivers and it triangulates the location of the FOB based on the relative signal strength at the three locations. The car knows if the FOB is inside the car or outside the car.
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Originally Posted by SilverCoupe

Keyless start itself is great. Just enter or leave the car one time with a package in your hand(s) and you'll see what I mean. It'll be even more awesome if you also have to get out a house key while you're carrying that package, after you normally would have had to put away the car key.
This is the best feature on the C6.
Old 03-21-2005, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ByeByeC5
I read somewhere that the car has three receivers and it triangulates the location of the FOB based on the relative signal strength at the three locations. The car knows if the FOB is inside the car or outside the car.
Correct.

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Old 03-21-2005, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by TRAYC6
It was second nature after the first day.... dont even think about it anymore...
For the first week or two it was a pain..now I dont event think about it....as witnessed by me leaving the car at the dealer (no A/C) and driving home with the FOB in my pocket...50 MILES!
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Originally Posted by Eddy C
Mine had a warning tag around the gear shift. After a few days of having it become a habit, I removed it. Had the no key feature in the Benz. It was called keyless Go and I appreciate still having it.
Lexus now has push button keyless start as well as MB. Chevy in good company here.
Old 03-21-2005, 09:26 AM
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Avalon has it too. It is a great feature and I just wish all my cars had it


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