The LATEST information on C6 Roof Separation-6/29/06
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The LATEST information on C6 Roof Separation-6/29/06
Date: June 29, 2006
Subject: 2005-2006 Chevrolet Corvette Including Z06 Repair Procedure for Painted Roofs that may separate
On Feb 21, GM released customer satisfaction program 05112 which was last revised on June 23 under version 05112D. This new version includes additional 2005 and 2006 vehicles including the Z06. It provides instruction to inspect roofs as well as a service procedure for a temporary repair that
will allow the roof panel to be secured to the roof frame and allow the customer to safely operate the vehicle until a replacement roof is available.
The demand for replacement roofs has temporarily exceeded the capacity to produce them causing a large number of back orders. A new SMC roof panel is being developed and is expected to be available no later than mid-August. Dealers with stock orders for part number 19120484 and 19120244 should be aware that these parts will be discontinued sometime in July and replaced with a new part number for the SMC roof
On May 24, GM announced a pending safety recall for this condition involving 2005 and 2006 including the Z06 built prior to May 31. Approximately 31,000 vehicles will be involved and dealers will be advised when a release date has been established. The replacement roof for vehicles involved in this recall will use the SMC roof instead of the polycarbonate panel. Orders for service replacement roofs will be filled first then the SMC roof will be moved into production.
Date: June 23, 2006
Subject: 05112D – Customer Satisfaction Program
Painted Roof Adhesive Separation
Vehicle Population and Service Procedure Revised
Models: 2005-2006 Chevrolet Corvette with Painted Roof
To: All Chevrolet Dealers
Attention: Service Manager, Parts Manager
and Warranty Administrator
Customer Satisfaction Program Bulletin 05112C was released on June 7, 2006 via GM Administrative Message WIR20060307.
This bulletin is being revised to include Z06 model vehicles. A new service procedure and labor time have also been added.
A copy of revised bulletin 05112D is attached below. Please review the new information immediately and discard all copies of bulletin 05112C.
The Service Information System (SI) version of this bulletin will be available on June 24, 2006.
GMVIS information for the additional vehicles will be available on June 24, 2006.
Go here for the service bulletin:
http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c5/ken...onbulletin.pdf
Subject: 2005-2006 Chevrolet Corvette Including Z06 Repair Procedure for Painted Roofs that may separate
On Feb 21, GM released customer satisfaction program 05112 which was last revised on June 23 under version 05112D. This new version includes additional 2005 and 2006 vehicles including the Z06. It provides instruction to inspect roofs as well as a service procedure for a temporary repair that
will allow the roof panel to be secured to the roof frame and allow the customer to safely operate the vehicle until a replacement roof is available.
The demand for replacement roofs has temporarily exceeded the capacity to produce them causing a large number of back orders. A new SMC roof panel is being developed and is expected to be available no later than mid-August. Dealers with stock orders for part number 19120484 and 19120244 should be aware that these parts will be discontinued sometime in July and replaced with a new part number for the SMC roof
On May 24, GM announced a pending safety recall for this condition involving 2005 and 2006 including the Z06 built prior to May 31. Approximately 31,000 vehicles will be involved and dealers will be advised when a release date has been established. The replacement roof for vehicles involved in this recall will use the SMC roof instead of the polycarbonate panel. Orders for service replacement roofs will be filled first then the SMC roof will be moved into production.
Date: June 23, 2006
Subject: 05112D – Customer Satisfaction Program
Painted Roof Adhesive Separation
Vehicle Population and Service Procedure Revised
Models: 2005-2006 Chevrolet Corvette with Painted Roof
To: All Chevrolet Dealers
Attention: Service Manager, Parts Manager
and Warranty Administrator
Customer Satisfaction Program Bulletin 05112C was released on June 7, 2006 via GM Administrative Message WIR20060307.
This bulletin is being revised to include Z06 model vehicles. A new service procedure and labor time have also been added.
A copy of revised bulletin 05112D is attached below. Please review the new information immediately and discard all copies of bulletin 05112C.
The Service Information System (SI) version of this bulletin will be available on June 24, 2006.
GMVIS information for the additional vehicles will be available on June 24, 2006.
Go here for the service bulletin:
http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c5/ken...onbulletin.pdf
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What about early production 2007 roofs???
Considering that the "new" SMC roof will not be available until sometime in August, will a 1 for 1 swap be made for the early production 2007 models? OR will it be available as an additional purchase option? I'd hate to think I would be penalized for buying a 2007 coupe from the first week's production run.
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The problem with this is if your roof hasn't seperated at all yet then they inject it and do not change it. So you're stuck with the original faulty design which has a high probability of biting you later. Now where did I leave my heatlamp...
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Originally Posted by Ken Fichtner
Date: June 29, 2006
Subject: 2005-2006 Chevrolet Corvette Including Z06 Repair Procedure for Painted Roofs that may separate
On Feb 21, GM released customer satisfaction program 05112 which was last revised on June 23 under version 05112D. This new version includes additional 2005 and 2006 vehicles including the Z06. It provides instruction to inspect roofs as well as a service procedure for a temporary repair that
will allow the roof panel to be secured to the roof frame and allow the customer to safely operate the vehicle until a replacement roof is available.
The demand for replacement roofs has temporarily exceeded the capacity to produce them causing a large number of back orders. A new SMC roof panel is being developed and is expected to be available no later than mid-August. Dealers with stock orders for part number 19120484 and 19120244 should be aware that these parts will be discontinued sometime in July and replaced with a new part number for the SMC roof
On May 24, GM announced a pending safety recall for this condition involving 2005 and 2006 including the Z06 built prior to May 31. Approximately 31,000 vehicles will be involved and dealers will be advised when a release date has been established. The replacement roof for vehicles involved in this recall will use the SMC roof instead of the polycarbonate panel. Orders for service replacement roofs will be filled first then the SMC roof will be moved into production.
Date: June 23, 2006
Subject: 05112D – Customer Satisfaction Program
Painted Roof Adhesive Separation
Vehicle Population and Service Procedure Revised
Models: 2005-2006 Chevrolet Corvette with Painted Roof
To: All Chevrolet Dealers
Attention: Service Manager, Parts Manager
and Warranty Administrator
Customer Satisfaction Program Bulletin 05112C was released on June 7, 2006 via GM Administrative Message WIR20060307.
This bulletin is being revised to include Z06 model vehicles. A new service procedure and labor time have also been added.
A copy of revised bulletin 05112D is attached below. Please review the new information immediately and discard all copies of bulletin 05112C.
The Service Information System (SI) version of this bulletin will be available on June 24, 2006.
GMVIS information for the additional vehicles will be available on June 24, 2006.
Go here for the service bulletin:
http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c5/ken...onbulletin.pdf
Subject: 2005-2006 Chevrolet Corvette Including Z06 Repair Procedure for Painted Roofs that may separate
On Feb 21, GM released customer satisfaction program 05112 which was last revised on June 23 under version 05112D. This new version includes additional 2005 and 2006 vehicles including the Z06. It provides instruction to inspect roofs as well as a service procedure for a temporary repair that
will allow the roof panel to be secured to the roof frame and allow the customer to safely operate the vehicle until a replacement roof is available.
The demand for replacement roofs has temporarily exceeded the capacity to produce them causing a large number of back orders. A new SMC roof panel is being developed and is expected to be available no later than mid-August. Dealers with stock orders for part number 19120484 and 19120244 should be aware that these parts will be discontinued sometime in July and replaced with a new part number for the SMC roof
On May 24, GM announced a pending safety recall for this condition involving 2005 and 2006 including the Z06 built prior to May 31. Approximately 31,000 vehicles will be involved and dealers will be advised when a release date has been established. The replacement roof for vehicles involved in this recall will use the SMC roof instead of the polycarbonate panel. Orders for service replacement roofs will be filled first then the SMC roof will be moved into production.
Date: June 23, 2006
Subject: 05112D – Customer Satisfaction Program
Painted Roof Adhesive Separation
Vehicle Population and Service Procedure Revised
Models: 2005-2006 Chevrolet Corvette with Painted Roof
To: All Chevrolet Dealers
Attention: Service Manager, Parts Manager
and Warranty Administrator
Customer Satisfaction Program Bulletin 05112C was released on June 7, 2006 via GM Administrative Message WIR20060307.
This bulletin is being revised to include Z06 model vehicles. A new service procedure and labor time have also been added.
A copy of revised bulletin 05112D is attached below. Please review the new information immediately and discard all copies of bulletin 05112C.
The Service Information System (SI) version of this bulletin will be available on June 24, 2006.
GMVIS information for the additional vehicles will be available on June 24, 2006.
Go here for the service bulletin:
http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c5/ken...onbulletin.pdf
Anyone know what SMC means??
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Thanks so much, Ken, for the straight poop! Sounds like the general recall won't be released until the supply of new tops is available in August. Also sounds like all of us '05 and '06 painted top owners will be getting a new roof. Again, .
Good question about the '07's. In the two factory tour threads running now the posters said they were told the '07 tops are fine because they changed the adhesive, but this update clearly says they are changing the top material (by the way, what the heck is "SMC," as opposed to polycarbonate?)
Good question about the '07's. In the two factory tour threads running now the posters said they were told the '07 tops are fine because they changed the adhesive, but this update clearly says they are changing the top material (by the way, what the heck is "SMC," as opposed to polycarbonate?)
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Originally Posted by DEagle
What's "SMC" and how does it differ from polycarbonate? And ditto to Red Flagger's questions.
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Googled SMC:
http://www.smc-alliance.com/SMC_on_t...o_success1.pdf
and
http://www.matweb.com/reference/composites.asp
SMC (Sheet Moulding Compound) has a proven history as an engineering composite with many
unique qualities. This is true, both for the automotive sector and for the many other industries where the material is widely used; such as construction, electrical and electronics.
unique qualities. This is true, both for the automotive sector and for the many other industries where the material is widely used; such as construction, electrical and electronics.
and
SMCs (Sheet Molding Compound) consist of polymer resin and reinforcing agent (glass or carbon fiber) produced and sold in continuous sheets. SMCs, usually thermoset-based, often have longer fibers and higher fiber content than composites produced for injection molding or extrusion. This can result in a stronger and stiffer product, but the ability to form complex shapes is limited.
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went to that web site and noticed that they made the VIN # range much bigger. my VIN wasn't there before now Mine is. Does this mean I should take it back to the dealer? Had it at Selman Chev. for oil change on the 23rd of this month and asked nthem to check the roof and they blew me off saying they found no recall for my VIN. yesterday was 99 degrees out here and i was sacred sh****less to drive.
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what does this mean?
If you own an '06 Coupe within the recall, you will be getting a new top? So going in for the foam fix is not necessary if you are having no problems?
Under any circumstances does a person have to keep a fixed roof or do we all get SMC new tops?
Under any circumstances does a person have to keep a fixed roof or do we all get SMC new tops?
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Originally Posted by Red Flagger
Considering that the "new" SMC roof will not be available until sometime in August, will a 1 for 1 swap be made for the early production 2007 models? OR will it be available as an additional purchase option? I'd hate to think I would be penalized for buying a 2007 coupe from the first week's production run.
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Originally Posted by rmd8136
If you own an '06 Coupe within the recall, you will be getting a new top? So going in for the foam fix is not necessary if you are having no problems?
Under any circumstances does a person have to keep a fixed roof or do we all get SMC new tops?
Under any circumstances does a person have to keep a fixed roof or do we all get SMC new tops?
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Exactly.....I don't want some glued piece of crap or a ticking time bomb!! are we all going to get new roofs regardless if they fail or not as long as our VIN #'s are within their range?????
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Now that GM has figured out that polycarbonate can't be glued, what about the body?
If GM has finally determined that the polycarbonate panels are not compatible with the magnesium roof, frame, do we C6 owner's need to worry about other panels such as the rear hatch delaminating? I am getting some strange popping noises from the rear already.
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St. Jude Donor '06
Great thread Ken, thanks.
I'm one of those '07 buyers, my car should be coming off the line some time today & I'm not worried.
If it fails so be it, but from everything I've heard the '07's have been "fixed". I hope that means the new top. If not I'm sure these will eventually be included in the recall too. I can't see a RECALL of 31,000 cars and leaving out a few hundred just because they happen to fall between the cracks.
I suspect there are a lot of people just wanting the "latest and greatest" going on here, especially when they talk about owning a "time bomb" when they haven't ever had a problem.... and are just worried about what may happen.. if... when... etc.
I understand wanting the latest and greatest but lets wait and see, and lets be reasonable about this.
Al
I'm one of those '07 buyers, my car should be coming off the line some time today & I'm not worried.
If it fails so be it, but from everything I've heard the '07's have been "fixed". I hope that means the new top. If not I'm sure these will eventually be included in the recall too. I can't see a RECALL of 31,000 cars and leaving out a few hundred just because they happen to fall between the cracks.
I suspect there are a lot of people just wanting the "latest and greatest" going on here, especially when they talk about owning a "time bomb" when they haven't ever had a problem.... and are just worried about what may happen.. if... when... etc.
I understand wanting the latest and greatest but lets wait and see, and lets be reasonable about this.
Al
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Originally Posted by Gov'sGuy
Great thread Ken, thanks.
I'm one of those '07 buyers, my car should be coming off the line some time today & I'm not worried.
If it fails so be it, but from everything I've heard the '07's have been "fixed". I hope that means the new top. If not I'm sure these will eventually be included in the recall too. I can't see a RECALL of 31,000 cars and leaving out a few hundred just because they happen to fall between the cracks.
I suspect there are a lot of people just wanting the "latest and greatest" going on here, especially when they talk about owning a "time bomb" when they haven't ever had a problem.... and are just worried about what may happen.. if... when... etc.
I understand wanting the latest and greatest but lets wait and see, and lets be reasonable about this.
Al
I'm one of those '07 buyers, my car should be coming off the line some time today & I'm not worried.
If it fails so be it, but from everything I've heard the '07's have been "fixed". I hope that means the new top. If not I'm sure these will eventually be included in the recall too. I can't see a RECALL of 31,000 cars and leaving out a few hundred just because they happen to fall between the cracks.
I suspect there are a lot of people just wanting the "latest and greatest" going on here, especially when they talk about owning a "time bomb" when they haven't ever had a problem.... and are just worried about what may happen.. if... when... etc.
I understand wanting the latest and greatest but lets wait and see, and lets be reasonable about this.
Al
This is a case where you are driving down the road, and suddenly the roof could be on a collision course with the windshield of a car behind you (or perhaps a motorcyclist). Then, to make matters worse, you may be without your car for a month.
If I still had a coupe (I had an '05 that someone is getting a recall notice on), I would demand a new top as well before such an incident happens.
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Okay, this may be wishful thinking but the way I read it the 'fix' is now considered just temporary and all tops within the racall range will be replaced with new ones made of the different material later this summer/rall.
Am I reading it correctly?
Okay...I re-read it and it looks like you'll only get a replacement if there is some separation. If there is separation then it will be fixed (temporarily) and then a new roof provided when available.
Am I reading it correctly?
Okay...I re-read it and it looks like you'll only get a replacement if there is some separation. If there is separation then it will be fixed (temporarily) and then a new roof provided when available.
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