NCC-1701

If your not sideways once in a while your driving it wrong...lol

Thomasmoto

That's so funny. I just told a guy yesterday the same thing. He also said that auto-cross and road racing aren't hard on your car. Lol Everybody in the room laughed at him outright. He was a Porsche guy.

MoparZ06

Toyo R888Rs.....Totally Different car.

Have fun.

ZO6 cracker

I have owned my C7Z06 since new and it’s a manual. Did RonFellowRoadCourse and tail of the dragon. Never an issue driving it and driving it fast. I agree with some post could be a couple of different reasons.

Keppler

This is correct.

You roll into the throttle gradually, not by making sharp inputs in to the throttle.

After a while you can fell the tires even slightly slipping and then you know you are to deep or to quickly in to the throttle. Make very small corrections.

Be careful. Once the *** end goes sideways you can easily lose it. Correct with your hands, not your feet. If you lift on the throttle or hit the brakes the *** end gets even lighter which will ruin your day.

VirginiaAgent

Check around your area for a citizen's police academy. Some will allow participants to get in a patrol vehicle and spend some time on the "skid pad."

The skid pad is a large area of polished concrete which gets soaked down with sprinklers. It's literally like driving on ice.

You don't even drive very fast, but in a matter of an hour or two you will learn volumes on how to control a powerful car when the wheels come loose.

Police department driving instructors are probably on par with the instructors at the Ron Fellows school. Amazing what those guys can do.

rocketdave

How old are the tires? The newest C7 Z06's factory installed tires are now at least 5 years old. Tires lose grip with age, and depending on how they're stored or driven.

Additionally, what is the ambient temp? The Pilot Supersport definitely needs some heat in it to be able to stick. It won't act like a drag radial when warm, but you ought to be able to roll into the throttle in first, and mat it in second.

emfollin

I had the pleasure of test driving a 2016 Z06 today with long tubes and no cats. It was an interesting car... looks like someone set it up for pure race use. First time I ever drove a C7Z... I fully understand the "how the hell do you drive this thing". The Z has the Amazon Effect to the Stingray... Power... I want it all right now!

Draven

What is the point in putting all seasons on a high performance Z07 equipped car besides the price tag of tires?

This is my experience. My car came with MPSS from the previous owner and they were okay when heated and broke loose in 2nd easily, and chirped 3rd if I was aggressive. I swapped them out at the end of last year and now I have those same experiences but a gear earlier. Break loose 1st easily, chirp second if I'm on it hard, but otherwise the car is really well planted. That said, I'll either swap to 888Rs or Cup 2s for the next set. I don't drive much, but I tend to drive hard, and I'd rather trade the longevity of the MPSS for the traction of the Cup 2s or 888Rs as long as the handling characteristics match up. I like it when I take a turn when my wife isn't paying attention and she ends up in my lap so I don't want to give that up.

emfollin

wouldn’t give that up either.

edster75

When the tires are hot after a couple laps on the track they stick very well. Unfortunately they never get this hot on the street.

The cars are beasts that's for sure.

I usually play in manual on the street so the unexpected downshift doesn't send me sideways into the weeds lol.

TxLefty

My car came with Cup 2s. Traction was marginal unless the tires were thoroughly warmed up, which was difficult to achieve and maintain on the street. I found it easier to keep the MPSS tires in their operating range. To be fair, the Cup 2s I that were on the car had a little less than 3,000 easy miles, but were 4 years old.

I've continued to run the MPSS tires. They seem to strike a good compromise between performance, dry and wet, and only start to lose grip when the temps are below 50* or so. Since we travel a lot in the car, I also choose to keep run-flats on it.

Track

+1 with the alignment. When I bought mine it was a handful to drive, and nearly uncontrollable in the rain. I found the toes were out and way too much negative camber. Once corrected it still spins the tires at will, but it's very controllable. If you are smooth with the throttle and don't back off once the tires spin, then the TC will come in and give you great traction. If you get scared and keep punching and letting off, then the TC gets confused and doesn't help at all.

Dj_or_dj

I have Mich Pilot Super Sport tires - stock variant, brand new. Haven't turned off traction yet - Sport mode or Touring, I'm having issues

Michelin tires are not that good. If you want to experience speed wobble high in triple digits that would be a GREAT tire to start with. I had a set once, and @ over 145mph the car started doing stupid stuff. Mainly I almost lost it going straight on those tires speed wobble is not desirable at high speeds. I would suggest swap tires first. They are good for commuting and thats about it. They are rated up to 140 MPH if i remember correctly. The problem w them is they have a dual compound and that is what makes them not so good.

At the moment I am on Hankook Ventus V12 tires 18x11 295/35r18 F and 19x13 325/30r19 R and I REALLY like them. I’ve seen and data logged upwards of 160 MPH on them from a 3rd and 4th gear pull. I am guessing Im putting down at least 580whp at the moment.

Full heads cam package car.


Dont know what I am putting down exactly because my driveline broke just before my final tune and dyno day and I am in the middle of a driveline swap at the moment too. So not to inflate numbers I can only guess, but once I get the driveline issue ironed out
this is where I am at. LOL.

I do know I broke my transmission, not quite sure about the diff just yet. But I wouldn’t be surprised to find out its toast too.

I have run R888R’s in the past which I loved for canyons and MT ET STREET SS which were all grip For straight line (brief spin and hook cold. Then dead hook warm 1st gear 40 roll )



I am swapping my drivetrain setup around at the moment and am going to 4.10:1 final drive ratio. Then swapping in a 7 speed out of a 2017 C7 Z06 (BUG) transmission.