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Hello, Im Max From The Netherlands, I have a 72 LT1 Convertible with ZR1 Option its 1 of the 6 Build for 72. is there anybody here, that knows another Convertible ZR1 for 1972? or does anybody knows a Registry Holder?
GM Letter
its they same as I already had bud more certificated...
Max,
Probably the best move you could have made. I don’t know if I would say “more certificated”, but it certainly ties up any potential loose ends between 1993 and today. It would still be great to see some photos of your car and tank sticker. You have a really rare and interesting car and it would be great to see it.
Here are some photos of the 1972 ZR-1 that I restored.
Hello, Im Max From The Netherlands, I have a 72 LT1 Convertible with ZR1 Option its 1 of the 6 Build for 72. is there anybody here, that knows another Convertible ZR1 for 1972? or does anybody knows a Registry Holder?
Sorry, I don't but I would be very interested to know more about yours ! Vin # ? Photo's, it's history of how you found it & how it wound up in Holland ?
I have seen three 1970 ZR-1 convertibles and the only 1971 ZR-1 convertible, but in thinking about it, I’ve seen maybe half of the 1972 ZR-1s (including the one I restored), but they’ve all been coupes. The records indicate a split of 14 coupes and 6 convertibles, so it’s about a 2 to 1 ratio… Given those odds, I probably should have seen one by now, but I don’t recall any.
Gary Bosselman (gbozz on this site) is the only person I know that has seen (and certainly worked on) more than me… Perhaps he has seen one that I haven’t (or can’t remember).
I gather that you are quite certain that this car is a ZR-1?
Hello Stan, thanks for your Reply, yes im pretty sure its a ZR1, have the Tanksticker and the Corvette Order Copy also.
i will try to connect with Gbozz on this site to ask him about it.
its for more then 30 years in the Netherlands.
I just have it bought from the Owner who had a Corvette Aftermarket parts shop for long time in the NL
and he had this car for more then 30 Years. I got tipped it was for sale and bought it right away.
Comes with tank sticker order copy and a letter from GM Canada as its a Canada delivered car.
i will be back later with clear pictures of the car.
That letter is very interesting. It’s early…. 1993 (I believe) is prior to George Zapora’s involvement with the GM Canada records so things in the letter are a bit different than what we typically see so it is tough to compare format for most of the available letters. Another item that is really odd are the RPO codes that are listed. F41, J56, and M22 were not available options in 1972; you got them as part of the ZR-1 option that year. I don’t think that GM started referring to “radio delete” as UL5 until 1975 or so and in 1972, no radio was standard equipment (there was no delete option) so I’m not sure what to make of that.
Having said all that, the information in this letter was compiled by a human source. Could the person who did the research for this letter gone back and saw that options like F41, J56, M22, et.al. were part of the ZR-1 option. Absolutely. It’s tough to tell though since the person who put this letter together is probably long since retired. Also, at this point in time, the person requesting the information received a computer print out of the page this car appeared on… Along with all the other cars on that page. All of the options on the car are listed. Did you receive this computer generated page when you purchased the car? That may also prove helpful in determining where the option information came from.
Photos of the car as well as the tank sticker might shed some light on what we’re looking at. It would be enlightening if you were able to post those when you get the opportunity.
i will make a clear scan of it, and pictures of it, I know its reading ZR1 so im 100% its a ZR1.
coming back to the Radio Delete, the thank sticker says Radio Delete also.
will follow up in a few days, but I hope to find here someone that knows the car or has the registry so he just can say YES its a all correct very nice car! :P
The beauty of Canadian documentation is that if anyone doubts it, you can just order it again in the current format. It sure looks legit to me and it is provable by reordering it.
i will make a clear scan of it, and pictures of it, I know its reading ZR1 so im 100% its a ZR1.
coming back to the Radio Delete, the thank sticker says Radio Delete also.
Max,
A clear scan or photo of the tank sticker would be most helpful! I don't know what to say about the "radio delete" on the tank sticker... I can tell you that there should be no mention of it.
I will follow up in a few days, but I hope to find here someone that knows the car or has the registry so he just can say YES its a all correct very nice car! :P
There is no registry or list as the serial numbers for all of these cars were never released by GM and are not known. As far as who to talk to about the car, there are a lot of sharp folks on this forum, but I don't think that you will find anyone who has seen more 1970-1972 ZR-1s than Gary or myself... It is what it is.
Originally Posted by Pboyd
The beauty of Canadian documentation is that if anyone doubts it, you can just order it again in the current format. It sure looks legit to me and it is provable by reordering it.
The obvious... First thing that I thought of. Thanks Pat.
Stan,
interestingly enough, I have a picture of a 72 ZR1 tank sheet and it does show “radio delete” as well as F41. It’s a poor quality picture of the sticker but I think it’s authentic. I am going through my database to see what else I have, but those years are not organized well in my database and of course there are not many examples of the real car let alone with docs. I am curious to see how the OP’s compares to it.
The beauty of Canadian documentation is that if anyone doubts it, you can just order it again in the current format. It sure looks legit to me and it is provable by reordering it.
If needed, this would be the easiest method if any doubt. I have seen a lot of these GM Docs with cars at shows up here in Canada, but one thing I notice with this GM Canada doc is that it shows total ZR1 production as 20 and the year 1972. Usually, the doc will say “Number produced for sale in Canada” or “Number imported for sale in Canada” then details of how many of these imported cars were Lt1s, 454s or ZR1s, and maybe options like how many had power windows. So just the number of cars imported and sold by GM Canada, not total GM production and also not the year. Perhaps the creator of the document wrote it this way because Chevrolet did have records of there only being 20 ZR1 optioned cars, or the format was different for these docs back in early 90s. I’m no expert just an observation.
Stan,
interestingly enough, I have a picture of a 72 ZR1 tank sheet and it does show “radio delete” as well as F41. It’s a poor quality picture of the sticker but I think it’s authentic. I am going through my database to see what else I have, but those years are not organized well in my database and of course there are not many examples of the real car let alone with docs. I am curious to see how the OP’s compares to it.
Ed,
Apparently, all of that information is coming from the data printed on the tank sticker as the same data is what was transmitted on the computer sheet (which is where the information from GM Canada came from). Everything looks to be good in that respect… The only thing that threw me was the radio delete (UL5). Technically, a radio didn’t become standard until 1979 (I believe) so you can’t delete something that isn’t standard in the first place. Having said that, I have seen UL5 listed on a legitimate 1975 Corvette tank sticker, so I know that it happened… Never saw anything earlier than 1975 until now though. In any case, the Canadian certification appears to be real, just want to get a look at the tank sticker.
If needed, this would be the easiest method if any doubt. I have seen a lot of these GM Docs with cars at shows up here in Canada, but one thing I notice with this GM Canada doc is that it shows total ZR1 production as 20 and the year 1972. Usually, the doc will say “Number produced for sale in Canada” or “Number imported for sale in Canada” then details of how many of these imported cars were Lt1s, 454s or ZR1s, and maybe options like how many had power windows. So just the number of cars imported and sold by GM Canada, not total GM production and also not the year. Perhaps the creator of the document wrote it this way because Chevrolet did have records of there only being 20 ZR1 optioned cars, or the format was different for these docs back in early 90s. I’m no expert just an observation.
The format was different for the early documents… The reason that it was difficult to compare it to documents that have been sent out more recently.
174 Corvette convertibles, 1 ZR-1 (obviously, this car). Not sure if any ZR-1 coupes were imported, but it’s possible.
Hello Stan,
I agree. You would not think a “radio delete” can be done or referred to if you don’t choose the radio ‘option’.
Here is a pic of a Bryar Blue ZR1 tank sheet. It’s a poor quality picture but it’s all I have.
Last edited by ed427vette; 05-15-2024 at 12:07 PM.
05-05-2024, 08:51 AM
1970 - 1972 ZR1 Optioned Corvette
