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Old 05-03-2024, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
C8s do very well on a road course and are very competitive with the C7Z. The mid-engine design lets the car rotate better in the turns and the DCT helps to get the power to the ground better, if a driver practices they can reduce lap times even more by left foot braking.

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Sorry but C8 doesn't even come close to hanging with the C7Z on road course. Look at Nurburgring, VIR, Willow Springs, Laguna etc all significant differences in time between the two.
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Old 05-03-2024, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by black2010gs
Sorry but C8 doesn't even come close to hanging with the C7Z on road course. Look at Nurburgring, VIR, Willow Springs, Laguna etc all significant differences in time between the two.
This is true. For example, C&D Lighting Lap, at VIR Grand Course the 2015 C7Z Z07 7 speed did a 2:44.6 in 2015. In 2021 they turned a 2:49.0 in a Z51 C8.

The C7Z sits 23rd on their all time lap time list (2006-2024) and it is the oldest car in the top 30 with exception of the 2014 Porsche 918 which recorded a 2:43.1 in 2014. Next oldest is a 2009 Mosler MT900S which recorded a 2:45.9 for 30th place.

It’s incredible how high up the all time track times from around the world the C7Z still sits….and no dual clutch trans needed.
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Old 05-03-2024, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DyLivn
This is true. For example, C&D Lighting Lap, at VIR Grand Course the 2015 C7Z Z07 7 speed did a 2:44.6 in 2015. In 2021 they turned a 2:49.0 in a Z51 C8.

The C7Z sits 23rd on their all time lap time list (2006-2024) and it is the oldest car in the top 30 with exception of the 2014 Porsche 918 which recorded a 2:43.1 in 2014. Next oldest is a 2009 Mosler MT900S which recorded a 2:45.9 for 30th place.

It’s incredible how high up the all time track times from around the world the C7Z still sits….and no dual clutch trans needed.
C7Z did 2:39.77 with updated mag ride, only 1.17 seconds slower than a C8Z with carbon wheels. Puts it at spot #10 vs #42 for the C8 stingray. Very impressive.
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Old 05-03-2024, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by black2010gs
C7Z did 2:39.77 with updated mag ride, only 1.17 seconds slower than a C8Z with carbon wheels. Puts it at spot #10 vs #42 for the C8 stingray. Very impressive.
I am sure the C7Z and the other cars on the list have been around Grand Course faster than the posted C&D times, but it gives us a good baseline for how the cars are tested and under the same criteria. C&D test at the the time the car is new from the factory so it keeps a fair playing field. Software updates, newer tire technology, etc could definitely benefit many of the cars on that list, but then you started playing the if’s and but’s game.
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Old 05-03-2024, 02:31 PM
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Pretty amazing car, the C7 Z06 is considering you can buy a nice example in the 70s range without the headaches of an exotic.
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Old 05-03-2024, 03:06 PM
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I received another solicitation from my local dealer to outright buy back my 2015 C7 Z07 Vert M7 3LZ with less than 5K miles, no trade involved. I get at least one of these solicitations a week. They have C8’s sitting on the lot at sticker or less from what I hear. Appears that there is still a market for specific C7 Z07’s!

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Old 05-03-2024, 03:48 PM
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Is the offer more than fair?
Old 05-03-2024, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DyLivn
I am sure the C7Z and the other cars on the list have been around Grand Course faster than the posted C&D times, but it gives us a good baseline for how the cars are tested and under the same criteria. C&D test at the the time the car is new from the factory so it keeps a fair playing field. Software updates, newer tire technology, etc could definitely benefit many of the cars on that list, but then you started playing the if’s and but’s game.
Updated mag ride is new from factory it came in the 2019s, no ifs and buts there.
Old 05-03-2024, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 17 Z06/Z07
Is the offer more than fair?
never checked into the offers, not interested in selling! Very difficult to find one this nice! Just not thrilled with the C8! Drove a C8 but it was no C7 Z07 Vert!

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Old 05-03-2024, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by mjross
never checked into the offers, not interested in selling! Very difficult to find one this nice! Just not thrilled with the C8! Drove a C8 but it was no C7 Z07 Vert!
I get them all the time too but if you ask, they want to give you wholesale prices, lol.
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Originally Posted by 17 Z06/Z07
I get them all the time too but if you ask, they want to give you wholesale prices, lol.
Ain’t going to happen, even if I were to sell it. I know what it’s worth! People want these things, not everyone digs the C8! I hope it changes but IMHO something about the C8 just isn’t right, drove one and it just didn’t do it for me. Looks like there was not much collaboration in the design, the C8 Z06 appears to be more of what I was hoping for. I can see what they were trying to do but it just didn’t quite hit the marks. Maybe next series!

However, it’s a great car and a good deal when compared to the competition. I also do not like what I’m hearing about keeping the engine bay clean, you don’t want to be caught in the rain, it would drive me nuts. However, to each their own!

The C8 is a great sports car, I actually intended to purchase one but after driving it, it was just not for me, especially compared to my Z07. Many people really dig them and that’s cool. I think I’ll wait for the next round!

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Originally Posted by black2010gs
Updated mag ride is new from factory it came in the 2019s, no ifs and buts there.
I hear ya, but then they would need to test the most updated versions of the other cars (same gen). You can’t just say the C7Z would move up X number of spots and the other cars, which got similar updates during their life cycle, would stay stagnant. Most likely they would all move in linear fashion so they overall placings would track similar. 4 seconds is a lot from a mag ride update, surely driver and conditions factored into that better time?
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Originally Posted by DyLivn
I hear ya, but then they would need to test the most updated versions of the other cars (same gen). You can’t just say the C7Z would move up X number of spots and the other cars, which got similar updates during their life cycle, would stay stagnant. Most likely they would all move in linear fashion so they overall placings would track similar. 4 seconds is a lot from a mag ride update, surely driver and conditions factored into that better time?
Feel free to post some lap times of other updated versions of same gen cars to compare, they would certainly be valid as it's a stock car...
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Old 05-05-2024, 01:23 PM
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#bumpdate. Remember that guy who got drunk, then paid 165K? Well, it appears that same guy got high on 4/20, then paid 108K for a 2018 C7Z06 M7 with 4K miles. That is pushing the numbers up. Solely based from classic.com, it appears the market value is up 33% (60K to 80K) over the last 3 months for ALL C7Z06s. You can correct me if I am wrong.


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It’s all good…lol! The C7 Z06 is hard to beat for the money, get them while you can!
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Old 05-05-2024, 01:36 PM
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I guess you can blame me too as I paid 105K (with BAT fees) for my 2017 Z06/Z07 M7 Coupe with 448 miles.
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Originally Posted by 17 Z06/Z07
I guess you can blame me too as I paid 105K (with BAT fees) for my 2017 Z06/Z07 M7 Coupe with 448 miles.
You got the right one Sir!
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Old 05-05-2024, 05:47 PM
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So how about a Z06 M7 Callaway, what does having a Callaway do for value? Mine is 2016. 3LZ, Comp Seats and carbon roof and interior. Got a little over 12k miles on her. Always wondered how much more value a Callway would have over a stock Z06... Thoughts?
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Originally Posted by jmorgan3235
So how about a Z06 M7 Callaway, what does having a Callaway do for value? Mine is 2016. 3LZ, Comp Seats and carbon roof and interior. Got a little over 12k miles on her. Always wondered how much more value a Callway would have over a stock Z06... Thoughts?
I’ve found that low mileage “Stock” is what a lot of people are looking for and tend to hold their value better than most modified! However, there’s always someone looking for that special mod, Callaway is one of those mods!

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