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Old 05-04-2024, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by davester
Yep EvanZR1 hit the nail on the head. The Z06 is a great machine. Just a different driving experience. If I was to get back into tracking more I would want one!
same!
Old 05-05-2024, 12:57 PM
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And how many of the Z owner will actually track this vehicle? Most of them are just weekend cruisers. ERay, to me, makes MUCH more sense. Plus the ride is so much nicer. E all the way.
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Old 05-05-2024, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by EvanZR1
As someone who owns a Z06, for most people the Eray is probably the better choice. The Z06 is an "experience" car that needs a different style of driving than a traditional Corvette. It's similar to the C4 ZR-1 in that it loves to rev, and to really enjoy it, you need to keep it at higher revs all the time (I typically cruise at 4000rpm on surface streets). To really get the most enjoyment out of it, you're going to want to drive it in manual mode all the time (or at the very least, Track mode for shifting) and hooning on it constantly. It is nowhere near as good a "cruiser" as even a base C8 Stingray as it's going to need multiple (often 3-4) downshifts if you're cruising around at <2000rpm to get to where it has power, whereas the Stingray/Eray have a lot more low end torque under 3500rpm, and a shorter power band so it doesn't need nearly as many shifts (if any) to feel good power (yes, I know all about the torque multiplication of the steeper gearing, but drive an LT2 and LT6 back to back in manual mode and you will immediately tell the difference). The Z06 is also very stiff, even the "base" Z06 in Tour is way stiffer than Stingray Z51 or ERay, it's honestly probably right at the limit of what many people will consider acceptable for a street car. The benefits of the Z06 are it's incredible sound and amazing rev range, which can make up for the downsides if you love that type of experience. If you've always wanted a Ferrari or Lamborghini, and have owned high-revving engines before, then the Z06 may be the right choice. If all you've ever owned is traditional GM V8s and enjoy the low-end grunt associated with them, then the Z06 is probably not the right answer and the ERay will be a much better choice.
Turned down my Z06 slot in Sept and June TPW on ERAY after the slow ramp up? On Z06 list for years since my 2020, ERAY was more usable like a Swiss Army knife C8.. Can't wait.. but we do..
Old 05-05-2024, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by vipervetteguy
Agree, if I was still tracking.
if I was still in racer mode, it would have been a Z,

Now with an occasional track day, I’m good with an eRay!
Old 05-06-2024, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ERay2024
And how many of the Z owner will actually track this vehicle? Most of them are just weekend cruisers. ERay, to me, makes MUCH more sense. Plus the ride is so much nicer. E all the way.
The E-ray is a more rational choice, but spending this level of coin on weekend cruiser isn't rational. The Z06's high revving engine and taut feel make make it a good weekend toy. Driving the Z06 completely changes the mindset. On all but the crappiest of roads, it is comfortable enough to drive sanely and a total blast open up when the opportunity presents. It did take a few miles for me to adjust to the Z06's ride when I got it, but now I drive it in sport mode almost all of the time.

If I wanted a sporty two-seater for use mostly as a cruiser, a stingray with MRC would be the rational choice. The e-ray seems to slot somewhere in-between rational and irrational. I totally get its appeal and if I didn't have the z06, I would get one.
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Old 05-06-2024, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Ragtop 99
The E-ray is a more rational choice, but spending this level of coin on weekend cruiser isn't rational.
Ain't that the truth!
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If I wanted a sporty two-seater for use mostly as a cruiser, a stingray with MRC would be the rational choice. The e-ray seems to slot somewhere in-between rational and irrational. I totally get its appeal and if I didn't have the z06, I would get one.
If you have a wife/significant other, the Stingray and even ERay are more of an "us" car. The Z06 is 100% a "me" car (unless your wife is just as much of a car nut). The SR/ER will be plenty comfortable for wives to enjoy as well as they can be soft/quiet enough in Tour. The Z06 is going to get complaints even in Tour.
Old 05-06-2024, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by EvanZR1
If you have a wife/significant other, the Stingray and even ERay are more of an "us" car. The Z06 is 100% a "me" car (unless your wife is just as much of a car nut). The SR/ER will be plenty comfortable for wives to enjoy as well as they can be soft/quiet enough in Tour. The Z06 is going to get complaints even in Tour.
The Z06 is definitely a "me" car. I take my wife in the z06 occasionally, but corvette rides are infrequent enough that she hasn't commented on the z06 being harsher than my stingray, even though I warned her about that. Her previous car didn't have the best of rides, but now she has a new car with a better ride and may notice more. Keeping the exhaust turned all the way down is the biggest factor as most of the times we're out on decent roads after we get out of the neighborhood streets that constantly get torn up for utility work.
Old 05-06-2024, 03:32 PM
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The z06 is like someone good in cross fit while the ERAY is like someone good at bench press and maybe squats.
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Originally Posted by Z0HS1CK
The z06 is like someone good in cross fit while the ERAY is like someone good at bench press and maybe squats.
I'd argue it's the opposite. ER can work every machine in the gym--just that the limit is about 80% capacity on all of them. Z gets to 100%--but on a select few machines.
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Originally Posted by Z0HS1CK
The z06 is like someone good in cross fit while the ERAY is like someone good at bench press and maybe squats.
Originally Posted by 3LZR21U
I'd argue it's the opposite. ER can work every machine in the gym--just that the limit is about 80% capacity on all of them. Z gets to 100%--but on a select few machines.
I'll play along with the silly analogies....

ERAY



Z06

Old 05-06-2024, 11:35 PM
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Z06 fanbois who feel the need to talk **** about the ER constantly.
Old 05-07-2024, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 3LZR21U
I'd argue it's the opposite. ER can work every machine in the gym--just that the limit is about 80% capacity on all of them. Z gets to 100%--but on a select few machines.
You didn't get the analogy lol.

The z06 doesn't do bodybuilding, it's a cross fit athlete. Meaning no it can't do max rep on a bench press or a squat but the shear core strength, agility, stamina and the overall roundness of an athlete is what makes it like a z06 lol.

ERAY will do massive power reps on a bench press and squats. Very strong but super limited overall.

Most bodybuilders can't even do calisthenics is what i'm saying. Cross fit athletes are some of the strongest people. Same with gymnasts. That's the z06.
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Originally Posted by tadda
I'll play along with the silly analogies....

ERAY



Z06

lollllzzzzzzz
Old 05-07-2024, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Z0HS1CK
You didn't get the analogy lol.

The z06 doesn't do bodybuilding, it's a cross fit athlete. Meaning no it can't do max rep on a bench press or a squat but the shear core strength, agility, stamina and the overall roundness of an athlete is what makes it like a z06 lol.

ERAY will do massive power reps on a bench press and squats. Very strong but super limited overall.

Most bodybuilders can't even do calisthenics is what i'm saying. Cross fit athletes are some of the strongest people. Same with gymnasts. That's the z06.
I would say its more the opposite: The Eray is much more versatile, it can do almost everything better on the street than the Z in all types of weather. The Z seems to only dominate on the track and sound.
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Originally Posted by jafo1970
I would say its more the opposite: The Eray is much more versatile, it can do almost everything better on the street than the Z in all types of weather. The Z seems to only dominate on the track and sound.
Agreed. It excels where 99% of the people will be driving it 99.9% of the time ("under 120 mph" and off the track). Just wish it had that sound. 😉



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Originally Posted by jafo1970
I would say its more the opposite: The Eray is much more versatile, it can do almost everything better on the street than the Z in all types of weather. The Z seems to only dominate on the track and sound.
You can daily a z06 if you want. Put all seasons on the car and it can do it. It won't do it as good as a car with AWD but put a winter set on both and they're both fine.

ERAY is brute strength hence my bodybuilding comparison. It's not like a cross fit athlete. A z06 is like a ninja, or a john wick, and then the ERAY is bruce willis from die hard lol

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Originally Posted by Z0HS1CK
You can daily a z06 if you want. Put all seasons on the car and it can do it. It won't do it as good as a car with AWD but put a winter set on both and they're both fine.

ERAY is brute strength hence my bodybuilding comparison. It's not like a cross fit athlete. A z06 is like a ninja, or a john wick, and then the ERAY is bruce willis from die hard lol
It's been noted that the Corvette team calls the E-ray the "Swiss army knife" of corvettes internally. Here's note of that from a Corvette Blogger article:



Here's a video of the Corvette team, Tadge, Harlan, and Josh talking about these two models at "Corvettes at Carlisle" - at the 18:40 mark in this video Corvette Program Manager Harlan Charles uses the following descriptions for these two:
  • "Z06 is more like a scalpel...a track weapon, really does that very well"
  • "E-ray is more of the swiss-army knife where it does so many thing well"
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Old 05-07-2024, 09:32 AM
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Right, which is why i said it's like a cross fit athlete. Precision, agility, stamina, a well rounded athlete. And an ERAY is brute strength. A bodybuilder that's huge, can do big lifts on the bench press and squats. But it can't do pullups, can't do a front lever, can't do a human flag lol.

That's what i mean.
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I see I wasn't the only one who thought the gym analogy wasn't a beacon of clarity.

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Z06 fanbois who feel the need to talk **** about the ER constantly.
I don't know who/what this is, but it's a bit disconcerting that you knew where to find it.


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Originally Posted by dw886
Agreed. It excels where 99% of the people will be driving it 99.9% of the time ("under 120 mph" and off the track). Just wish it had that sound. 😉
If they would do the ERay with a detuned LT6, even rev limited to say 7500rpm, I'd most likely switch.


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