VetteVinnie

Well, in Houston this doesn't appear to be a problem yet because the parking lot at the venue is huge and there's still plenty of parking in the back of the buildings for spillover. With limited space, I can understand wanting to limit a plethora of one vehicle because, honestly, I own a Z06 Vette, so going to look at a mess of other Z06 Vettes doesn't get the juices pumping. But seeing a pair of yellow Enzos next to an F50 and F40? That makes the trip far more worthwhile to me.

But that's just my opinion.

FSTFRC

FYI.. This is the second largest C&C in the country with well over a 800 cars at the event. Even in the winter or looks like rain days people come out to the event with there cars.

TexasYankee

I just read several pages of the thread on the C&C forums. I had no idea how political this show had become. What a shame.

It would be interesting if all the Vettes, Stangs, Challengers, and other "low end cars" boycotted the next event to see would happen.

Budman68

Wow, there is some bit-chin going on at the C & C forum.

98C5RT

You hit the nail on the head. Too many cars with no real overflow parking, so everyone parks in the show area regardless of whether they are showing their car or not. Move the event to somewhere else with enough room for all people that love cars or, as so many have already suggested, boycott the current C&C and start a true muscle car GTG. The bigger the better!

VetteVinnie

At the rate the Houston gathering is growing, it's about to drop to third.

David426

Joe,, You bring up a good point.. This is a giant event.. Our Collin County Group leaves at 6:30 am and we get there around 6:45 am.. We have to do this to get good parking, to where we can keep most of the Vettes in the same area..If you get out there at 8:00 when the event starts, you are doomed.. Nowhere to park! As far as the OP saying that this is a anti-late model Corvette regime, I raise the BS Flag.. I've seen a lot of no meaning cars that should have never been let into the show. Honda Prelude, Volkswagen Jetta, Honda Civics, Pontiac G6, Porcshe SUV (Cayenne?) Chevy Cobalt SS.. I don't think any year Corvette will take a back seat to these cars... Give me a break

TXGS507

No we leave so early in case one of get pulled over for doing more than 70 or < 140.... and get a WARNING!

David426

Coves4me

I really hate to bitch about anything, but the C & C Dallas event in March was my last. In April, I left my house in north Plano in my my C4 at 7:00 AM. It took me all of 25 minutes to get to the dealership where I sat in line with my engine running for 45 minutes until 8:15 AM. My engine was hot at 235 degrees with both fans running. I watched a fellow gearhead go up in steam in his restored 57 T Bird behind me. I finally said "F" it, and went home. I sat in front of the dealership for 45 minutes on Spring Creek!!!! What a load of crap. I was also told by a good friend that they were asking everyone for personal info to possibly formulate an invitation only list for future events.

If I want to see rows and rows of "new" Mustangs, Camaros and Challengers, I'll go to a dealership. And what's with all the vendors that show up and take up three spaces? It was fun while it lasted. In the future, I'll go to McKinney and the La Madeleine with my old friends who are "real" gearheads. I feel better now.

Mark B.

F4Gary

Man, you guys are early risers.

jkuzzy

I used to go to the C&C events very early on. There was no such thing as "Vettes over here, and Mustangs over there." You could park anyplace that you wanted. I have friends with other types of old cars and it was so fun just to park in the same area. We would get there at around 7:20 and there might be 10 cars in the parking lot. By 8 it was getting full.
The next thing I know, the lot is full and there are cones reserving a row for Hondas and the Vettes need to go to the right as you pull in.
I have noticed more and more of the cars that were the center piece of the show were no longer coming. The original light green AC Cobra comes to mind.
Like someone else said that the dealership has done a great job, but I think the show isn't nearly as fun as it used to be. I have only been once in the past 6 months and that was enough to convince me that I won't be back. I don't need to see a 77 Malibu Classic or even 35 variations of the same new car.

Toque

I'm with you on this Joe...


Does anyone remember that this is a Monthly Charity Event ? Its not about people bickering about this or that car. Its about raising money for a specific charity each month. To which I contribute to each month.

First come First Serve for parking. If your a late riser then show up at 9:30am when the lot starts to clear out. I'm not sure why that's so hard to figure out.

I have a 2004 Z06 with a mod list longer than my arm. Most of my mods were done by me in my garage. If anyone thinks I'm not good enough to show up, I hope they say it to my face.

Toque

FSTFRC

I don't think this was ever a 'Car Show' but more of a get together type of event for car enthusiast. In my opinion that's what made the event fun to go too and the fact that I got to see a lot of friends in the same place. I get tired of car shows and never put my car in shows anymore unless the money goes to Charity. I'd rather go drive my car at the track or cruise out somewhere with friends.

Maybe it should be a paid admission event that would probably solve a lot of problems for C&C and organizers.

tonypittman

Did you read the thread over at the Cars and Coffee forum? Corvettes are most certainly called out as one of the "problem" groups. I'm not saying that the C&C staff agrees, but folks are certainly voicing their opinions on the forum, and they have the Corvette crowd in their sentiments.

One of the most recent posts, as of this writing:

"All I am saying is that people need to get a realistic view of their car. A row of stock C6 Corvettes/2010 Camaros is not interesting. This is not a GM Factory lot, it is a car show. Think about the mods on your car & if you have anything that 5+ other people aren't showing off as well. If you don't, well, your car isn't as interesting/unique as you probably thought.

I think Classic should take a note out of the Irvine meet. They make it pretty clear what gets in & what doesn't."

TripleBlackxThree

C&C is like most anything else that gets too popular. It's crumbling under its own weight.

I think it jumped the shark a year ago.

Coves4me

IMHO, the venue is just not big enough for all of the cars that want to show up. I can appreciate what Eric Maas has done, but the show has just become too big. A new venue is needed. My wife suggested that a possibility could be a high school stadium parking lot, a shopping mall or other large lot. Cowboys Stadium? Rangers Stadium? Texas Motor Speedway? As much as I don't want to see 25 new Mustangs, Challengers or Camaros in a row, I do not think you should keep anyone from being in the show. Let's not forget that we were all young car nuts on a limited budget in our younger years, and what we drove was our pride and joy. Besides, getting young children interested in the hobby of car collecting is what this is all about. Someone needs to be enthusiastic about cars in the future so I can sell mine when I get too old to drive. Let's hope that a reasonable solution can be found.

Mark B.

jkuzzy

After reading thru all of the 11+ pages, it seems to me to be a generational thing (to me anyway). As a 46 year old, I want to see much more of the older cars and exotics. Judging from some of the posts, it doesn't bother some people to see different mods on 46 different Mustangs, Challengers, Camaros, or Vettes.
The other hangup seems to be cost of the vehicle. My 64 not only costs less than most of the cars, but is worth less. I agree that it has become way to big and with that many people there is no pleasing of anybody anymore.

NSTKR

Sounds like too much politics like the Chevy/Corvette Expo in Houston. Once the a$$kissers get to the promoters of the event it's ruined. Sad that the brown nosing whiners don't realize that this all began and still is a charity event.

Toque

Its sad to say but your right...

Toque