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Old 01-21-2007, 06:12 PM
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My Bro in Law just told me about what he believes to be an abandon racetrack off hiway 377 between Arlinton & Dallas.
He says it stays unlocked & saw some local in a Viper "excercising" his car on it.....
Is this a hidden gem only the locals know about or is he on crack?

Thanks in advance...
Old 01-21-2007, 06:25 PM
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Be sure to post a map and precise directions when you find out.
Old 01-21-2007, 06:35 PM
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Default This is a joke right?

I might seriously move to Texas if that's for real
Old 01-21-2007, 06:40 PM
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I think it is Green Valley race track. It used to host Trans Am races.
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Old 01-21-2007, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by timd38
I think it is Green Valley race track. It used to host Trans Am races.
What was Green Valley now (criminally) has a housing development and an elementary school on it.

Probably the track he saw was Motorsport Ranch. You can see their new addition of track from 377. It's neither abandoned nor open to the public.
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Default oh well

I figured it was too good to be true.
Somebody is leaving the gate open cuz he drives by it all the time & says its always open.
Whatever it is. Whoever owns the property outa keep it locked. Its a liability concern waiting to happen. When some yahoo sneaks in there & wipes out!
Old 01-21-2007, 08:47 PM
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Well, usually a person who is trespassing will have a hard time proving his point in court...but sometimes things do go crazy (i.e. hot mcdonalds coffee lady and the like).

Let me give some advice - when i was younger we used to go "mudding" in our trucks wherever we coudl find a place that wasn't "locked" up. To our surprise the police doesn't seem to care that nobody locked up the area. Just because a place doesn't have a fence around it doesn't mean you can just tear around and do what you like.

Don't get charged with criminal trespassing and criminal michief and worse....it's just not worth it.
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If it is MSR in Cresson, then it's not as easy as just driving in the gate... Trust me, I've been there before.
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Originally Posted by jtkeller
If it is MSR in Cresson, then it's not as easy as just driving in the gate... Trust me, I've been there before.
Cresson. Thats it. Thats what he said but he cant spell & I couldnt do a search
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MSR Cresson, 3.1 miles, 16 turns. It is open to go in and talk to people and even watch. But not to drive around. (Unless you have paid to do so and have signed the waiver.)
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Originally Posted by BuckyThreadkiller
What was Green Valley now (criminally) has a housing development and an elementary school on it.

Probably the track he saw was Motorsport Ranch. You can see their new addition of track from 377. It's neither abandoned nor open to the public.
Once in a blue moon I come across a set of pics I took out at Green Valley. My father took me to watch a guy he worked with race his vette on a "vette weekend". I was 13 or 14 at the time (must've planted the seed in my head for wanting a vette).

Shame that place is gone now.......have a lot of memories from going to watch the races on weekends when I was a few years older.
I even snuck into the place once (in the trunk of a friends Torino (think that's what it was called)) when low on cash
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Originally Posted by Greg0u812
Once in a blue moon I come across a set of pics I took out at Green Valley. My father took me to watch a guy he worked with race his vette on a "vette weekend". I was 13 or 14 at the time (must've planted the seed in my head for wanting a vette).
<insert comment about how old I am here>
I actually raced at Green Valley's road course in a formula ford way back. Place was crazy and fairly dangerous. Coming back down the return road, you'd be heading right at the pits and take a slow 90 degree right just before the fence. Then there was the bridge over the creek and, yes, it was called Mustang Creek for a reason.

Good old days... when racing was dangerous and sex was safe.

Wow, look ... the 'track' is still there in a ghostly way...
http://www.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=&...16136&t=k&om=1

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Nope...all gone. That pic is about 5 years old. I live a few miles from there and have been to the site recently (was looking for old Mangham Field) and it's all houses now.
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Originally Posted by Joe Diver
Nope...all gone. That pic is about 5 years old. I live a few miles from there and have been to the site recently (was looking for old Mangham Field) and it's all houses now.
That's good to know, really. Dead and buried.

Joe, your avatar made me go blind for a minute!
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Originally Posted by Joe Diver
Nope...all gone. That pic is about 5 years old. I live a few miles from there and have been to the site recently (was looking for old Mangham Field) and it's all houses now.
Wow, talk about bringing back old memories. I flew into Manghum field back around '84 or so, there was a aircraft salvage yard just north of the runway. It was hard to get into the landing pattern due to the proximity of DFW and the sanitized airspace around it.

I've run at MSR a few times, and it's always had the gate open *at the road*. There's another gate guarding the entrance to the paddock and pits, that one may be closed when nobody's home.

BTW, MSR is about 15 minutes southwest of Fort Worth, not Dallas.

Have a good one,
Mike
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Originally Posted by VetteDrmr
Wow, talk about bringing back old memories. I flew into Manghum field back around '84 or so, there was a aircraft salvage yard just north of the runway. It was hard to get into the landing pattern due to the proximity of DFW and the sanitized airspace around it.
Yep, east departures were a problem due to DFW...and when DFW lowered the TCA it killed the airport. I found this on the web for ya:

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Originally Posted by BuckyThreadkiller
What was Green Valley now (criminally) has a housing development and an elementary school on it.
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Is Green Valley still there - I mean the track with the weeds growing in it and all ???

It's between Keller & NRH......I used to bicycle up there as a kid.
Those were the days.
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Originally Posted by verskel
Is Green Valley still there - I mean the track with the weeds growing in it and all ???

It's between Keller & NRH......I used to bicycle up there as a kid.
Those were the days.
Nope...it's completely gone now. Last summer, before they built the houses and had just cut the streets, I drove my Jeep out there and there was only a very small patch left of the track...if you look at the picture posted earlier it was the section of broken pavement at the very southern end...the turn out with the trees. Even that is gone now I believe.

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