Newsome signs Executive Order banning gas powered cars
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We need an executive order banning Newsom.
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What a dumbfk, that will help the rolling blackouts we get. Who voted this dik in?
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Melting Slicks
On another car group on Facebook, I had a similar comment... we have enough problems generating electricity in this state and electric cars will only make it worse. They're shutting down more power plants than they are adding other sources of energy generation...
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Melting Slicks
Cool; EVs are the future, and this is a move in the right direction. Is it too ambitious? Maybe, I'm not sure. But, the EO doesn't ban owning, operating, or selling used cars - it only stops the sale of new gas cars, 15 years from now. That's a long time... think of how much progress EVs and charging stations have made over the last 5-10 years with relatively few models available. Given that every major auto manufacturer is currently investing in EVs to meet increased demand, it's safe to assume the technology in 2035 will be miles ahead of today.
As another commenter said, this has zero effect on classic cars. It also has zero effect on the C8, and even the C9 for that matter. It will certainly be interesting to see what the Chevy engineers and designers come up with for the all-electric C10, though.
As another commenter said, this has zero effect on classic cars. It also has zero effect on the C8, and even the C9 for that matter. It will certainly be interesting to see what the Chevy engineers and designers come up with for the all-electric C10, though.
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Melting Slicks
I think most commuters probably charge overnight while energy consumption from other sources is low.
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Cool; EVs are the future, and this is a move in the right direction. Is it too ambitious? Maybe, I'm not sure. But, the EO doesn't ban owning, operating, or selling used cars - it only stops the sale of new gas cars, 15 years from now. That's a long time... think of how much progress EVs and charging stations have made over the last 5-10 years with relatively few models available. Given that every major auto manufacturer is currently investing in EVs to meet increased demand, it's safe to assume the technology in 2035 will be miles ahead of today.
As another commenter said, this has zero effect on classic cars. It also has zero effect on the C8, and even the C9 for that matter. It will certainly be interesting to see what the Chevy engineers and designers come up with for the all-electric C10, though.
As another commenter said, this has zero effect on classic cars. It also has zero effect on the C8, and even the C9 for that matter. It will certainly be interesting to see what the Chevy engineers and designers come up with for the all-electric C10, though.
For the record, my background is high performance electric motors and applications surrounding them. My current employer has supplied motors for Formula 1 and Formula E applications. But I think EVs still have a way to go.
I'd hope by the C9 they'll have an all-electric version It would surely have a better 0-60 than the C8 Z51's already-impressive sprint time.
Eh, it's not fair to consumers to count on that. And we have no idea what the grid demand would be even in the scenario you've suggested. My big hope is that CA doesn't screw us over and starts making REAL plans to increase energy generation.
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Cool; EVs are the future, and this is a move in the right direction. Is it too ambitious? Maybe, I'm not sure. But, the EO doesn't ban owning, operating, or selling used cars - it only stops the sale of new gas cars, 15 years from now. That's a long time... think of how much progress EVs and charging stations have made over the last 5-10 years with relatively few models available. Given that every major auto manufacturer is currently investing in EVs to meet increased demand, it's safe to assume the technology in 2035 will be miles ahead of today.
As another commenter said, this has zero effect on classic cars. It also has zero effect on the C8, and even the C9 for that matter. It will certainly be interesting to see what the Chevy engineers and designers come up with for the all-electric C10, though.
As another commenter said, this has zero effect on classic cars. It also has zero effect on the C8, and even the C9 for that matter. It will certainly be interesting to see what the Chevy engineers and designers come up with for the all-electric C10, though.
You are going to need to buy gas. He is a self serving ***.
Last edited by Corvettes White; 09-24-2020 at 10:56 PM.
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Yeah, I agree with that. Personally, I'm waiting for the next battery tech evolution before jumping on the EV bandwagon. Current tech is plenty good enough for phones and laptops IMO, but only because I replace those every 3-5 years anyway. I prefer to keep my cars longer than that, though. I also have concerns about whether and how thoroughly all those rechargeable batteries can/will be recycled.
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Politicians, especially California politicians have been pushing toward non-emissions vehicles for years. Now that Newsome has made an executive order to ban all fossil fuel burning cars by 2035, the manufactures have probably betting that it will eventually become a reality. California has 40 million citizens. The market is huge. It would be devastating for a car company if they couldn't sell their product in California. For that matter why make a product that you can't sell in California (like a gas powered vehicle). Oil refineries, and oil distributers have to be asking themselves the same question. If most of California isn't filling their tanks once a week, why maintain a refinery there?
This could be a reason why the Camaro ZL1, Dodge Demon, and Shelby GT500 are going away (I think the corvette will stay as a halo car). The companies that make them are transitioning to a new culture mandated by politicians.
This could be a reason why the Camaro ZL1, Dodge Demon, and Shelby GT500 are going away (I think the corvette will stay as a halo car). The companies that make them are transitioning to a new culture mandated by politicians.
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Does this Kalifornia King have any alligators in his castle moat?
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California already has the most Electric cars in the state. California also has the most solar panels, which don't collect power at night. that's when the most electric cars are charging and that is why we had power outages this summer. I'm all for electric cars but someone isn't thinking this all the way through.
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Drifting
To get a reality check on this, I pulled some numbers from a California & a US Government website.
In a year:
California uses 14,700,000,000 gallons of fuel for transportation.
That is 1,760,000,000,000,000 BTU of energy to move around.
Equivalent to 515,000,000,000 KWh of electricity.
California uses 260,000,000,000 KWh of electricity a year for everything.
Producing , of that, 195,000,000,000 KWhr internally.
So, the fifth largest economy in the World needs to triple its electric production by 2045 or so.
Not happening!
Driving a battery powered car is like having sex with a blow-up doll.
It gets you where you are going, but without warmth or emotion.
In a year:
California uses 14,700,000,000 gallons of fuel for transportation.
That is 1,760,000,000,000,000 BTU of energy to move around.
Equivalent to 515,000,000,000 KWh of electricity.
California uses 260,000,000,000 KWh of electricity a year for everything.
Producing , of that, 195,000,000,000 KWhr internally.
So, the fifth largest economy in the World needs to triple its electric production by 2045 or so.
Not happening!
Driving a battery powered car is like having sex with a blow-up doll.
It gets you where you are going, but without warmth or emotion.
Last edited by Corvettes White; 09-26-2020 at 12:40 AM.
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