Tri-Tip

Actually Tommy, most of us in the GOCC have the mentality of 16 year-olds, YOU bring the average down to 8.

David Garren

I called today and confirmed our reservation at the Dow Villa. My wife and I can't wait. All I have to do now is get the new a/v sysyem installed in the next few weeks.
See you all soon.
Dave

b_pappy

Tommy and I discussed this like mature adults, we'll let you spank us later.
Bruce

RidgecrestC5

Well I guess I blew this one, I've been pretty busy lately and lost touch with the Ridgecrest crowd but I think we will show up in Lone Pine for the party. I know you are full but if there is any cancellations let me know and we will be there.

stano

You're invited. Check on room availability right away. You're part of the family...late or not

Stan0

BlackOps

I dunno', StanO, you're pretty easy on him. I think he should at least have to take a test first.

So, Dennis (RidgecrestC5), here we go. What's the terminal airspeed velocity of a fully laden swallow? Get this right and you're in. (OK, you're in anyway, but give it a try)

VegasRed2001

African or European swallow?

RidgecrestC5

So, Dennis (RidgecrestC5), here we go. What's the terminal airspeed velocity of a fully laden swallow? Get this right and you're in. (OK, you're in anyway, but give it a try)[/QUOTE]

Although a definitive answer would of course require further measurements, published species-wide averages of wing length and body mass, initial Strouhal estimates based on those averages and cross-species comparisons, the Lund wind tunnel study of birds flying at a range of speeds, and revised Strouhal numbers based on that study all lead me to estimate that the average cruising airspeed velocity of an unladen European Swallow is roughly 11 meters per second, or 24 miles an hour.

stano

Although a definitive answer would of course require further measurements, published species-wide averages of wing length and body mass, initial Strouhal estimates based on those averages and cross-species comparisons, the Lund wind tunnel study of birds flying at a range of speeds, and revised Strouhal numbers based on that study all lead me to estimate that the average cruising airspeed velocity of an unladen European Swallow is roughly 11 meters per second, or 24 miles an hour. [/QUOTE]

Gosh I'm sorry Dennis, but that's incorrect. You failed to factor in a head wind velocity at an altitude of 897 ft. ( normal flying altitude ) along with the current humidity at that moment. Factoring in a head wind of 3 knots ( I'm sure that's what it was at the time of your calculation ) and with humidity at 35% , it would give you a negative factor of 6 which changes your estimate of 11 meters per second or 24 miles an hour. So, the European Swallow flying into a head wind of 3 knots at 897 ft. at 35% humidity changes the cruising speed to 14.25 miles per hour.....assuming it's a fully matured male and not a female European Swallow.

Sorry Dennis, you won't be able to join in on the fun. But the good news is, Kelly can still come!





Tidbit of info: The fully matured African male only cruises at 11.14 miles per hour....it doesn't eat as well as the European male does and probably has some disease

spiral04

Gosh I'm sorry Dennis, but that's incorrect. You failed to factor in a head wind velocity at an altitude of 897 ft. ( normal flying altitude ) along with the current humidity at that moment. Factoring in a head wind of 3 knots ( I'm sure that's what it was at the time of your calculation ) and with humidity at 35% , it would give you a negative factor of 6 which changes your estimate of 11 meters per second or 24 miles an hour. So, the European Swallow flying into a head wind of 3 knots at 897 ft. at 35% humidity changes the cruising speed to 14.25 miles per hour.....assuming it's a fully matured male and not a female European Swallow.

I love female European swallow Sorry, you set us up for that!

Sierra Cruiser

I'm staying out of this!!!

stano

Ok, who got ahold of my password....

GreenEyedBandit

Female swallows, tongue lashings...I think I'm going to have to cancel this trip...my virgin ears and eyes cannot handle such things :o

BearCreekC6

stano

I agree Bob

BlackOps

Although a definitive answer would of course require further measurements, published species-wide averages of wing length and body mass, initial Strouhal estimates based on those averages and cross-species comparisons, the Lund wind tunnel study of birds flying at a range of speeds, and revised Strouhal numbers based on that study all lead me to estimate that the average cruising airspeed velocity of an unladen European Swallow is roughly 11 meters per second, or 24 miles an hour. [/QUOTE]

Right or wrong, you're in. I'm still laughing . . .

See ya' there, Dennis.

BlackOps

Right or wrong, you're in. I'm still laughing . . .

See ya' there, Dennis.

xtream1

Right or wrong, you're in. I'm still laughing . . .

See ya' there, Dennis.[/QUOTE]

AHEM....the actual question was TERMINAL airspeed, not AVERAGE CRUISING airspeed. If we can't follow directions....we must be GOCC or at least FOCCers.

b_pappy

And "Terminal" airspeed is of course how fast that little sucker is flying when someone unloads a 12 gauge in his direction and brings him down.
Bruce

JohnsC5

I think you're confusing "terminal air speed" with "escape velocity"!