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Old 04-05-2002, 05:22 AM   #1
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Default [Event] Georgia Mountain Corvette Cruise - April 20th - Don't Miss It!!!

Anyone want to see beautiful scenery and some twisty roads??? This is the cruise for you!

I have never taken a cruise up in the North Georgia mountains, but it looks like we some interested people who have done it before! I will post some pictures to this thread if anyone from past cruises has any.

I will be the organizer of this cruise, but it looks like Black2001ZO6 will be the lead driver since he done it a few times. I'm going to post separate message for the list of attendees, directions, and agenda.

If you have any questions, please send me an email at vcosta@attbi.com.

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Old 04-05-2002, 05:25 AM   #2
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Below is the list of attendees. I will update the status when someone posts a message or sends me an email.

1 - 1990corvette (Vinnie, Sheila)
2 - TestAmenTC5 (Mike)
3 - WEGONE (Steve)
4 - GMBlack3 (Bryan, Amy)
5 - larryf (Larry)
6 - tshac (Thomas)
7 - 96LT4 (Brandt, Libby)
8 - Dragon2U (Mike)
9 - 92Shawnster (Shawn)
10 - RaceSmith (Mark)
11 - GenerationX (Chris)
12 - nevrenuf (Tom) - Tentative
13 - leolufse (Lars, Claire)
14 - don 02c5 (Don)
15 - Gordon (Name Unknown)
16 - Kudzu (Calvin)
17 - BigToe (David)
18 - Tom and Peggy (No Forum ID)
19 - Shae and Wayne Robinson (No Fourm ID)
20 - Chris and Cindy (No Forum ID)
21 - NickS (Nick)


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Below is a link to a map of the general area. You should be able to see the towns Suches and Helen if you are viewing the large map. If you keep on the North button in the Map Mover area, you will see the highest point in Georgia that we will be visiting (Brasstown Bald is 4,784 feet above sea level)!

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Final Directions (Summary)

1) North on 400/19
2) North (Left Turn) on 60/19 (Towards Dahlonega and Suches)
3) North (Right Turn) on 180 (At Suches)
4) North (Left Turn) on 11/129/19 (Past Vogel State Park and Towards Blairsville for Lunch)
5) South on 11/129/19 (Towards Choestoe)
6) Northeast (Left Turn) on 180 (Towards Choestoe)
7) North (Left Turn) on 180 Spur (Towards Brasstown Bald)
8) South on 180 Spur
9) Southwest (Right Turn) on 180 (Towards Choestoe)
10) South (Left Turn) on 348 (Richard B. Russell Scenic Highway)
11) North (Left Turn) on 75 ALT (Towards Helen)
12) South (Right Turn) on 17/75 (Helen)
13) South on 75 (Towards Cleveland)
14) South (Left Turn) on 129/11
15) West (Right Turn) on 115 (Towards Babyland General Hospital)
16) South (Left Turn) on 115 (Towards 400/19)

Directions (Detailed) (This is not the exactly route we will be taking)

The Russell B. Ridge scenic parkway is open again, and offers more enjoyable twisties. For those that have done Deals Gap...this route is almost as good, but not NEARLY as crowded. Let's keep all those high priced shiney toys out of the ditch this time as well. We don't want any more most popular awards from the North GA law. Here's the route.

Getting there:
From Atlanta, Dahlonega is most easily reached via GA 400/US 19. Take 400 north from Atlanta, and turn left at the intersection with GA 60. There are several gas stations here and more (plus various food) in Dahlonega just 5 miles further north on 60.

Take the opportunity to gas up in Dahlonega. There is only one gas station on the run, and it's only 16 miles further up the road. There are three places to stop for snacks on the way, so that isn't as important.

The run:
From Dahlonega, take 60 north to Suches. Two pitfalls: 60 takes a right-hand turn in downtown Dahlonega, and it splits off unmarked from US 19 about 8 miles north of there. Don't turn until you see a sign for GA 180 on the right. And look for the sign, not a town, because Suches is essentially just a single convenience store.

GA 60 is a great run in its own right, all the way up to Copperhill, TN. This run only takes in about 16 miles of it, however, as it climbs the southern face of Blue Ridge, crosses it, and comes down into Suches. The first really nice twisties are here, but can be spoiled by traffic. 60 is actually a main corridor for local traffic in this area, so it's pretty well traveled, even though it's only two lanes.

GA 180 skirts along the northern slope of Blue Ridge and runs for about 30 miles in two sections. The next section of the route takes in the first 10 miles or so and is nicknamed "the Snake". This road has some very tight twisties, including several hairpins, more esses than you can count, and one genuinely terrifying steep downhill off-camber turn. Take this road cautiously until you are familiar with it. A lot of these turns have zero visibility, and a choice between running into a cliff or falling off of one if you screw up.

Because it's so impractical, there isn't much local traffic that doesn't actually live somewhere along this road. There will be a number of sports cars and motorcycles on any decent day, but these tend to to stay out of your way. The real problem is sightseers; especially during leaf season, this is a very scenic road. Watch out for brake fires and other comedy from people with ordinary cars and no clue what they are doing.

One scenic stop on 180: there is some almost unmarked park about halfway in with a fairly scenic pond that is glass-smooth if the wind is calm. Good photo-op, but otherwise not very exciting. There's a parking fee of $3, so it may not be worth it to take a break only 20 miles into the run.

GA 180 runs into US 19/129. For those who are into this, Vogel State Park is at right by this intersection. Take a right at this intersection and prepare to stretch your legs. US 19/129 South climbs back up Blue Ridge from the north, and then crosses the ridge and heads down towards Turner's Corner. Several of the uphill portions of this stretch have a passing lane, which is nice for working out frustrations if you got caught on 180 behind a minivan. There are some nice esses with visible banking transitions here and a few long sweepers that beg to hang the tail out, and visibility is much improved over 180. A decently handling car can go much faster than posted limits here. However, again, this is a fairly major corridor and there's a lot of slow traffic on it. Be prepared for people who come to almost complete stops right in the middle of turns.

Turner's Corner, like Suches, basically consists of a single store. I haven't stopped here but it looks to be of the quaint/folk art/Cracker Barrel-without-the-restaurant school of country stores. It's a decent place to stop for a Coke.
Continuing on south on 129 (19 splits off at Turner's Corner) is the most boring part of the route. It will be fairly straight two-lane highway for the next 15 or so miles. Look for GA 75 Alternate on the left about six or seven miles south of Turner's Corner, and take this turn. Again, fairly smooth, higher-speed roads, nice scenery, but not challenging. Continue on 75 Alternate until you reach GA 348, the Richard B. Russell Scenic Highway. Those familiar with the area will recognize that we are now only about two miles from Helen, the end of the run, but we have about 30 miles still to go.

348 is a left turn off 75 Alternate. It will pass north over Blue Ridge again, and for driving challenge, it's on par with the Snake, very low-visibility turns, major elevation changes, and a lot of variety in the type and severity of the corners. 348 also has easily half a dozen pull-offs for photo-ops. There is some kind of lodge at the ridge gap, but I've never stopped there. 348 terminates back on the second leg of GA 180. Take a right turn onto 180.
Unlike the Snake, this portion of 180 is much tamer. It's more challenging than the portions of 129 and 75 Alt you just left, but it's higher-speed sweepers rather than tight esses. The major attraction of this leg is 180 Spur, which comes up after about 6 miles on the left and which takes you to the highest point in Georgia that you can reach with a car. The peak of Brasstown Bald is 4,784 feet above sea level, and the parking lot at the foot of the trail is about 400 feet below that. The approach up the spur is steep and insanely twisted. It's so steep, in fact, that coupled with the elevation, we've experienced RPM dropoff in gears higher than second. At the summit there is a small store and a coke machine, if you feel like stopping. Parking is, again, $3, but if you don't stop you needn't pay the fee.
Going back down the spur is easily the most dangerous part of this run. It's very tough on the brakes, even with compression braking, and tight turns, gravity and terrified tourists from Vero Beach all conspire against you. Beware.

At the bottom of the spur, a left turn back onto 180 will put you off into a leisurely drive that lets your brakes cool off and your jaw unclench. The next turn is at the end of 180, where it runs into GA 17/75. Take a right turn here, and you are on the last leg of the run.

17/75 South is very much like US 19/129; it crosses Blue Ridge for the fourth and final time of this run, and features uphill passing lanes, higher speed turns and better visibility. 17/75 runs all the way into Helen, the end of our run.

Getting back:
Helen is a nice stop at the end of the run for good sit-down food. There are a lot of restaurants there, mostly German. Alt Heidelberg is particularly good, but get the wurst sampler and avoid the weiner schnitzel. Sometimes, especially during leaf season/Octoberfest, traffic into Helen can look like 5 o'clock rush hour. But if you've never seen Helen, you owe it to yourself to see it at least once; imagine if Walt Disney had gotten halfway through making a replica German village, then developed a heroin addiction and died in despair. It's a tourist trap from hell, with decent German food. The homemade candy shops are also excellent, but, apart from that, unless you are looking for a $500 cuckoo clock or collectible crystal figurines, it's garbage. The fire hydrants are painted like little people. Helen is over the top, no kidding.

If traffic is too terrible going into Helen, you can take a turn on to 75 Alternate just north of Helen and backtrack your route down that road. A couple of miles down on the left is a country cooking restaurant called, really, The Goofy Rooster. The chicken wings are good.

Whatever you decide, both 75 through Helen and 75 Alternate north of it eventually get back to US 129 north of Cleveland. In Cleveland, you can either continue on 129 to Gainesville and return to Atlanta on 985, or take GA 115 back to your starting point in Dahlonega, and backtrack down 400 from there.

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Old 04-05-2002, 05:28 AM   #4
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This will be updated as I get more information.

09:00 am - Meet at Marriott hotel parking lot at GA400 and Windward Parkway
12:00 am - Lunch (Blairsville - We will pick a place when we get there)
04:00 pm - End of Cruise

Map of Marriott hotel: 5465 Windward Pky W, Alpharetta, GA 30004
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Old 04-05-2002, 09:42 AM   #5
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I'm there! :cheers:
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Old 04-05-2002, 09:58 AM   #6
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This should be fun :cool: looking forward to it :cheers:
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:yesnod: :yesnod:
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Old 04-05-2002, 02:06 PM   #8
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We have to be in Knoxville on the 20th -- for the wedding of a daughter of very good friends.

So close .... and yet, so far :cry

But if you should change it to the 21st we will already be there and would love to drive back through the "beautiful country"


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Hey Vinnie put me on the tentative list. I want to go but I can not say for sure yet.
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Old 04-05-2002, 08:56 PM   #10
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We have to be in Knoxville on the 20th -- for the wedding of a daughter of very good friends.

So close .... and yet, so far :cry

But if you should change it to the 21st we will already be there and would love to drive back through the "beautiful country"


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Sorry you won't be able to make it George! I will probably end of staying the night on Saturday in Helen. If you want, we can meet somewhere and cruise back into Atlanta. (and anyone else)
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Are there any nice but reasonable priced hotels in Helen? If so, which one would be nice to stay at?
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sounds like a lot of fun...you can change me from tentative to fer sure...........thanks...


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I studied the detailed route and come up with two optional summary routes (posted in the second message of this thread). Let me know which one you like better, or come up with a different route. This is kind of fun!!! :D


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I'll just follow the vette ahead of me !!
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I'll just follow the vette ahead of me !!
You could probably PAST most Vettes that are ahead of you with your car!

I hope I don't have the slowest Vette (L98 engine) on this cruise. Last time I had to keep up with a ZO6, C5, and a LT1 on my way back from the Covered Bridge Cruise in Alabama!


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Bummer :sad:

I will be in Arizona that weekend and won't be able to do the drive.

Maybe next time:)

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I'm sure we can set it up again in the fall! I'm not sure what time would be best, but I would guess sometime in October!
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Bummer :sad:

I will be in Arizona that weekend and won't be able to do the drive.

Maybe next time:)
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Count me in as a tentative yes. :)
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If our engine is 'broken-in' by then, we will join in. :yesnod: :yesnod:
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