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Old 07-03-2004, 01:01 PM
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Default So I had a dream.

So I had a dream last night. I was thinking about my C3 and what I want to do with it.

A 800-900hp blown C3 would be really cool. and probably be amazing. But you start getting into the problem of alot of things blowing up at the HP level, and start need to consider rear halfing the vette.

So instead of a goal of 800hp, if I bump it down to 600hp which is very obtainable without EFI, and Force feeding the engine, I can run in the high 9s low 10s. And worry less about rearends, trannies, posis, u-joints, blowing up.

A 600hp 502ci engine would be pretty mild. Thats just the ZZ502 shortblock with some AFR heads, the shortblock comes with a roller valvetrain, so a change of camshaft is about all thats needed. And is probably a heck of alot more reliable, and streetable than a 600hp stroked smallblock.

Though If I still want to add the supercharger later, I still could. But it would be preferable to use the next larger AFR CNC ported 335cc head, instead of the 315cc. But that is neither here nor there.

I am gonna have to ponder it awhile.

Your thoughts?
Old 07-03-2004, 01:30 PM
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Default Re: So I had a dream. (Guru_4_hire)

You won't get proper weight transfer with that heavy big block. I just don't see it running very fast with a stock suspension setup.
Old 07-03-2004, 03:04 PM
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Who said anything about a stock suspension.
Old 07-03-2004, 03:07 PM
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Default Re: So I had a dream. (Guru_4_hire)

A 800-900hp blown C3 would be really cool. ?
maybe you should just take 30 minutes, adjust the valves and get it running and drive it!

just a thought.
Old 07-03-2004, 03:19 PM
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Already did
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Default Re: So I had a dream. (Guru_4_hire)

1 car comes to mind.....Merlin.
Old 07-03-2004, 06:20 PM
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Default Re: So I had a dream. (THawkbh)

I took a lot of inspiration from merlin.

There was alot that he didnt pay attention too, and threw alot of money around.

Instead of the dual blower setup from whipple I was going to use the 3.3L rear entry supercharger.

He also I think didnt pay enough attention to the drivetrain. plus I wasnt going to body mod it out as much
Old 07-04-2004, 04:51 AM
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Default Re: So I had a dream. (Guru_4_hire)

So I had a dream last night.
In your dream, were you floating through the sky hanging from a hot air balloon on a rope, naked. With thousands of people below, cheering?????

Or am I the only one dreaming that????
Old 07-04-2004, 08:26 AM
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Old 07-04-2004, 11:40 AM
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Default Re: So I had a dream. (Guru_4_hire)

I had a dream last night about a '78 pace car. The top of it was painted a cherry red while the sides were left the stock colors, decals and all. There was some very small lettering on the side of it in the same color red. It actually looked really cool. Eye catching, but not obnoxious.
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Default Re: So I had a dream. (Desertdawg)

So I had a dream last night.

In your dream, were you floating through the sky hanging from a hot air balloon on a rope, naked. With thousands of people below, cheering?????

Or am I the only one dreaming that????
You had a dream about Guru 4 Hire naked?

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Default Re: So I had a dream. (LiveandLetDrive)

I'd go with the simple BB idea. Aside from Norvalwilliam most of the blower guys can't ge traction or are at the unusable horsepower dilema, too big too fast scenerio where their car is no longer streetable nor safe. Get a 93 Civic put some stickers on it and you'll be fine.




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Old 07-04-2004, 06:32 PM
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Default Re: So I had a dream. (Guru_4_hire)

I took a lot of inspiration from merlin.

...

Instead of the dual blower setup from whipple I was going to use the 3.3L rear entry supercharger.
Me too...mine should be ready soon...
Old 07-05-2004, 10:16 AM
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I'd go with the simple BB idea. Aside from Norvalwilliam most of the blower guys can't ge traction or are at the unusable horsepower dilema, too big too fast scenerio where their car is no longer streetable nor safe. Get a 93 Civic put some stickers on it and you'll be fine.




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I figured with some 345/35ZR-18 michlin pilot sports in the rear, and a 2.73 rear end. I would have enough traction for all intents and purposes. Be able to spin my tires at will, and still be able to drive it.

If I am gonna start looking into a lower power catagory maybe a blown stroked smallblock is the way to go.

Z-man -- what you have going on there is sweet. What kind of power are you expecting out of it? And what are you doing about the lack of traction problem?
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If I am gonna start looking into a lower power catagory maybe a blown stroked smallblock is the way to go.
Ya know, World Produts has come out with a 454 stroker setup... May be a bit pricy, but would be the way to go if you want that many cubes....
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Default Re: So I had a dream. (Aflac)

I looked at that. And while its interesting to think about. Its really stretching the limits of the small block. Much like the 638 is pushing the limits of a big block.

Not quite sure how I feel about that.
Old 07-06-2004, 01:20 AM
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Default Re: So I had a dream. (Guru_4_hire)

I took a lot of inspiration from merlin.

There was alot that he didnt pay attention too, and threw alot of money around.

Instead of the dual blower setup from whipple I was going to use the 3.3L rear entry supercharger.

He also I think didnt pay enough attention to the drivetrain. plus I wasnt going to body mod it out as much
That was an amazing car, even if it was never really dialed in properly. How come it drew so much heat from everywhere? And how come folks here drove him off the forum when he came back and said he was thinking of buying it back? What. Is. The. Deal?

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Old 07-06-2004, 02:02 AM
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Default Re: So I had a dream. (Guru_4_hire)

Z-man -- what you have going on there is sweet. What kind of power are you expecting out of it? And what are you doing about the lack of traction problem?
I really don't know what the power should be. The current size of the injectors at the standard pressure rating is 500lb/hr or about 750hp. I'll worry about the lack of traction later. At first, I plan to use lack of traction as sort of a "fail safe" to keep other parts from busting until my wallet recovers. (I've already added VBP performance suspension with HD trailing arms & 11in. tires.)
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That was an amazing car, even if it was never really dialed in properly. How come it drew so much heat from everywhere? And how come folks here drove him off the forum when he came back and said he was thinking of buying it back? What. Is. The. Deal?
Yea - I was hoping he'd buy it back and get it on the road. Did folks here give him heat?
Old 07-06-2004, 09:34 AM
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That was an amazing car, even if it was never really dialed in properly. How come it drew so much heat from everywhere? And how come folks here drove him off the forum when he came back and said he was thinking of buying it back? What. Is. The. Deal?
If you are talking about why the car kept overheating. I guess that was a problem of the aftermarket front end.

I thought everybody was very positive about the car, but I have noticed that there are a burgeoning group of people who have lost the dream and are stuck in cynical realism.


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