heater hose plumbing - 1973
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heater hose plumbing - 1973
Thanks to the helpful input from the heater core replacement thread; I am now half way through this project on our 1973 (350 - with AC).
The way the existing core was hosed - it looks like hot water is always running through the heater core... is this correct?
I have seen some vacuum-operated-water-valves listed in some parts catalogs - but don't see where it was ever installed on the 1973???
The way the existing core was hosed - it looks like hot water is always running through the heater core... is this correct?
I have seen some vacuum-operated-water-valves listed in some parts catalogs - but don't see where it was ever installed on the 1973???
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Re: heater hose plumbing - 1973 (Mike Mercury)
Yes hot water flows through it all the time, you can buy a manual cut off valve (few threads out there on it). The vacuum operated ones are for A/C cars and only stops the flow when the a/c is turned on.
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Re: heater hose plumbing - 1973 (Fevre)
I have purchased the vacuum operated heater water valve - thinking it was removed from on our 1973 (that has A.C. ) by the previous owner; but none of the diagrams I have for the 1973 shows this valve; that made me think it was for later year C3's - not the 1973 (even with AC).
Does this sound right?
Does this sound right?
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Re: heater hose plumbing - 1973 (Mike Mercury)
I don't have a/c so I am not sure. Should not be too hard to plumb in, just need to 'T' the a/c vacuum switch to hook the valve to. I personally would just get a manual one so it is off all the time, just open every once in a while to allow the heater core to be flushed a little. No vaccum leak or valve failure worries. Adding a valve is something I need to do myself. :bb
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Re: heater hose plumbing - 1973 (Fevre)
Mike, I don't believe this started until '76. Remember I took the A/C out of my '75 and it did not have any such water shut off valve. The cars that do will have a very small white vacuum tube going to the shut off valve from the heater controller unit on your console. When I took my '75's console and heater/AC control unit apart, there was no such small white vacuum line. '76 or '77 even the non A/C cars had this "water shut-off valve".
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Re: heater hose plumbing - 1973 (Paul Borowski)
I believe there was a vacuum shut-off on my '69. An assembly manual for your year should show you everything you need. They are available through eBay at reasonable prices and are invaluable!
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Re: heater hose plumbing - 1973 (Paul Borowski)
since I've already purchased the valve; I'm thinking I might go ahead and install it anyways. I do realize a manual valve is more practical; but this is the wifes 1973 - and she will want it to be "automatic" in opeation.
So... the latter year C3's that had the valve, does anyone know where it was mounted - and which of the two heater core hoses it interrupted?
So... the latter year C3's that had the valve, does anyone know where it was mounted - and which of the two heater core hoses it interrupted?
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Re: heater hose plumbing - 1973 (Mike Mercury)
An assembly manual for your year should show you everything you need.
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[Modified by Mike Mercury, 1:26 PM 5/14/2004]
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Re: heater hose plumbing - 1973 (Mike Mercury)
The supply hose is 5/8" and the return is 3/4". I believe the standard vacuum valve fits in the 5/8" hose.
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Re: heater hose plumbing - 1973 (Mike Mercury)
UPDATE:
we're about 95% done with the heater core replacement project. Having an air-conditioned C3 really complicates this task.
While I had all the air ducts removed, they got a good scrubbing (inside & out) with a weak solution of Spic&Span. Man-O-Man they were coated with a thin layer of crudy dust. :( All nice and clean now !!!
The wife was complaining about her tach making noise - especially between 1500 and 3000 rpm. I myself had to strain to hear anything sounding amiss, but you know how easily women can be irritated :)
Since the dash was mostly apart anyways, and since I already had a new L82 mechanical tach in the box awaiting a swap out (purchased from EBay 6 months ago)... we did that swap as well.
About all that's left to do is re-install the passenger carpeting, seat, and map pocket panel. Thanks to all the help I have received in the C3 General section :cheers:
BTW, I went ahead and installed that vacuum operated heater water valve I had purchased. I tee'd off the tan vacuum line that is labled "AirConditioning" and ran the added extension to the new valve. In testing i noticed this tan stripped vacuum line actually has vacuum in all wheel positions - INCLUDIING the off position; except for the heat and defrost positions. So the water flow through the heater core will be stopped unless the wheel is moved to heat and/or defrost. Cool ! (I hope so)
We will see this summer if it was worth adding this valve.
we're about 95% done with the heater core replacement project. Having an air-conditioned C3 really complicates this task.
While I had all the air ducts removed, they got a good scrubbing (inside & out) with a weak solution of Spic&Span. Man-O-Man they were coated with a thin layer of crudy dust. :( All nice and clean now !!!
The wife was complaining about her tach making noise - especially between 1500 and 3000 rpm. I myself had to strain to hear anything sounding amiss, but you know how easily women can be irritated :)
Since the dash was mostly apart anyways, and since I already had a new L82 mechanical tach in the box awaiting a swap out (purchased from EBay 6 months ago)... we did that swap as well.
About all that's left to do is re-install the passenger carpeting, seat, and map pocket panel. Thanks to all the help I have received in the C3 General section :cheers:
BTW, I went ahead and installed that vacuum operated heater water valve I had purchased. I tee'd off the tan vacuum line that is labled "AirConditioning" and ran the added extension to the new valve. In testing i noticed this tan stripped vacuum line actually has vacuum in all wheel positions - INCLUDIING the off position; except for the heat and defrost positions. So the water flow through the heater core will be stopped unless the wheel is moved to heat and/or defrost. Cool ! (I hope so)
We will see this summer if it was worth adding this valve.
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Re: heater hose plumbing - 1973 (Mike Mercury)
73's did not have any valve so if you add one you will have to come up with a way to turn it on and off. The controls for cars that had it have a vacuum switch mounted to the heater switch much like the one on the headlight switch. I put a amnual switch on my that is setup to have a cable open/close it. I thought about hooking a "choke" cable to it but figured I only need it in the early spring and late fall so why bother.
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Re: heater hose plumbing - 1973 (redwingvette)
73's did not have any valve so if you add one you will have to come up with a way to turn it on and off.
I tee'd off the tan vacuum line that is labled "AirConditioning" and ran the added extension to the new (water) valve. In testing i noticed this tan stripped vacuum line actually has vacuum in all wheel positions - INCLUDIING the off position; except for the heat and defrost positions. So the water flow through the heater core will be stopped unless the wheel is moved to heat and/or defrost.
BTW, her car is featured in this months Corvette Fever magazine in the "Readers Rides" section.
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[Modified by Mike Mercury, 2:43 PM 5/16/2004]
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Re: heater hose plumbing - 1973 (Mike Mercury)
From what I've seen: 68-71 and late 75-82 A/C cars had the valve, where as 72-early75? A/C did not. Also late 75-79 non A/C cars had 'em. Why they stopped a few years???? I'd love to know! :cheers: