Need Some Tips On Lowering Rear With Longer Bolts
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Need Some Tips On Lowering Rear With Longer Bolts
What is envolved in this procedure? How long does it take? Is it relatively easy to do? :confused:
[Modified by OHSIXX, 1:53 PM 10/16/2003]
[Modified by OHSIXX, 1:53 PM 10/16/2003]
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Re: Need Some Tips On Lowering Rear With Longer Bolts (OHSIXX)
Very easy...took me about an hour and that was with a lot of fussing with jacking the spring. Only thing, after puttin in longer bolts, my rear ride height did not decrease!! PO must have put on a gargantua spring.
Brett :thumbs:
Brett :thumbs:
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Re: Need Some Tips On Lowering Rear With Longer Bolts (OHSIXX)
All you do is lower the nut on the bolt that goes through the spring and the rear will lower, make sure to check the camber when you are done.
Don't go too low with the nut or it will fall off.
[Modified by 69 N.O.X. RATT, 7:24 PM 10/16/2003]
Don't go too low with the nut or it will fall off.
[Modified by 69 N.O.X. RATT, 7:24 PM 10/16/2003]
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Re: Need Some Tips On Lowering Rear With Longer Bolts (69 N.O.X. RATT)
All you do is lower the nut on the bolt that goes through the spring and the rear will lower, make sure to check the camber when you are done.
Don't go too low with the nut or it will fall off.
Don't go too low with the nut or it will fall off.
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Re: Need Some Tips On Lowering Rear With Longer Bolts (Jeff 6T9)
8" weren't enough to get my rear lower with a new 9leaf standard so I opted for 5/8 x 9 which required enlarging the hole in the swing arm and the bushings. I can still go a little lower but at some point the tire is going to make contact with the spring. Most folks can get by with 8" but some folks need 9" in the rear. :lolg:
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Re: Need Some Tips On Lowering Rear With Longer Bolts (OHSIXX)
Installing a longer bolt is pretty simple. Place the jack under the far end of the spring and raise until the spring is horizontal to the ground. This help the spring from sliding off the jack. Keep hands and fingers clear in the event the jack fails. Also use jack stands to block the rest of the car.
Two concerns with longer spring bolts:
1) If the lower end of the bolt is at or below the rim, you will drag the spring bolt if you have a flat.
2) If the clearance between the tire and the end of the spring is not enough, you will rub the sidewalls on turns and risk a blowout with the critical outside rear tire on a curve. Tires flex more than you may think. Especially if you are running below 32 psi.
Chuck
Two concerns with longer spring bolts:
1) If the lower end of the bolt is at or below the rim, you will drag the spring bolt if you have a flat.
2) If the clearance between the tire and the end of the spring is not enough, you will rub the sidewalls on turns and risk a blowout with the critical outside rear tire on a curve. Tires flex more than you may think. Especially if you are running below 32 psi.
Chuck
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Re: Need Some Tips On Lowering Rear With Longer Bolts (FeedVaal)
Most folks can get by with 8" but some folks need 9" in the rear. :lolg:
Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Willis?
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9" in the rear...
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Re: Need Some Tips On Lowering Rear With Longer Bolts (OHSIXX)
I went with 10" bolts which are too long for a stock front ride height. I tightened the nuts until the ride height looked right and then did some slow speed testing. I checked the tire clearence and had a slight rub. after some tweaking the ride height is perfect and hard low speed cornering doesn't rub.
9" bolts would probably work fine but I may want to go lower when I change to different wheel tire combo.
9" bolts would probably work fine but I may want to go lower when I change to different wheel tire combo.
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Re: Need Some Tips On Lowering Rear With Longer Bolts (OHSIXX)
The GM Service Manual for your car gives a very good account on how to do this. If you don't own one, you should. If you want one, go over to http://www.ncrs.org and click on their store logo. The good thing about the GM manual is that it is specific for your car and gives steps as well as safety procedures.
With that note, it is fairly easy to do and only involves a little bit of grunt work. Safety is the biggest issue here because of the energy that a spring contains. It CAN kill you if you don't follow specific procedures.
Gary
With that note, it is fairly easy to do and only involves a little bit of grunt work. Safety is the biggest issue here because of the energy that a spring contains. It CAN kill you if you don't follow specific procedures.
Gary
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Re: Need Some Tips On Lowering Rear With Longer Bolts (OHSIXX)
I changed my rear spring out for a VB fiberglass spring in '91. I was autocrossing regularly in Hawaii and wanted to lower it as much as I could. I tried the 10" bolts and had 1" clearance between the tire sidewall and the spring. After a couple of autocrosses, I notice a slight rub mark on the sidewalls, nothing to worry about... I thought. Next race I leaned on it a little to much and it ripped the entire sidewall out of the left rear tire before I got it stopped.
After I spent $450 replacing the two rear tires (255/60-15 Gatorbacks) I decided to use the 8" bolts and switch to "cheaper" Hoosiers for autocrossing! 12 years later and no problems.
As long as the spring doesn't go below the bottom of the rim you'll have no problems. Otherwise it only a matter of time before it will get your attention... real fast!
GUSTO
After I spent $450 replacing the two rear tires (255/60-15 Gatorbacks) I decided to use the 8" bolts and switch to "cheaper" Hoosiers for autocrossing! 12 years later and no problems.
As long as the spring doesn't go below the bottom of the rim you'll have no problems. Otherwise it only a matter of time before it will get your attention... real fast!
GUSTO
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Re: Need Some Tips On Lowering Rear With Longer Bolts (OHSIXX)
When I lowered mine with longer bolts it was the spring cushion washer that rubbed the inner sidewall. I could tell by the scuff marks left on the tire after a test ride. The washer that was on there was quite large in outside diameter. So I just changed them out for a smaller diameter washer. Then took it for another test drive with lower tire pressure and cornered hard both ways in an attempt to push the extreem. The smaller washers solved the problem. I cant get em to hit the tire no matter how har I try.