Hooker glasspack inserts or spiral baffles??? which is better value
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Hooker glasspack inserts or spiral baffles??? which is better value
So I think I'm finally breaking down and buying another set of sidepipes, this time from Jet Hot. The only question left is what mufflers to buy. I hear people rave over the spiral baffles, are they really worth the extra $180? Which one has better sound control? Let the opinions fly!
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Re: Hooker glasspack inserts or spiral baffles??? which is better value (nitrocharger)
I say the spiral baffles are better hands down. Good noise reduction with very little back pressure.
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Re: Hooker glasspack inserts or spiral baffles??? which is better value (nitrocharger)
I've had both, and the Hooker glass pack is VERY restrictive. There was a noticable increase in low end torque with the spiral baffles. The spirals make a bit more noise but sound good.
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Re: Hooker glasspack inserts or spiral baffles??? which is better value (Duke94)
OMGoodness...
This is not even a debate. Back when my crate 454 HO was stock, I put the sidepipes on there with the Hooker glasspacks... the car made significantly LESS power than it did before! :( It literally would not rev over 4000rpm, and the motor was tuned perfectly prior to the install. I pulled them out after 40 miles of driving and just ran open pipes for a few weeks. Obviously I could feel a significant power increase with the open pipes. It was WA 2 LOUD however, and I was nervous about getting in trouble with the locals. After all I want to have fun driving the car, not putz around all the time and literally be embarrassed even when just casually pulling away from a stoplight.
So I got the JCL's. I went ahead and uncapped them before the install b/c I wanted maximum power out of them. Truth be told, I did not dyno the car before and after, but I could not tell ANY power loss compared to open pipes. :) Sound is very loud at WOT (wouldn't be as bad if I'd left them capped up, I'm sure), but at part-throttle cruise it just sounds great. Not too loud or obnoxious... but you can definitely hear them, like you should with sidepipes. :D
I recently upped the ante with my combo and the JCL's are still flowing great, as is evidenced by my power numbers.
Unless you have a very, very mild SBC I would not mess with the Hooker glasspacks. I sold mine at a huge loss.
This is not even a debate. Back when my crate 454 HO was stock, I put the sidepipes on there with the Hooker glasspacks... the car made significantly LESS power than it did before! :( It literally would not rev over 4000rpm, and the motor was tuned perfectly prior to the install. I pulled them out after 40 miles of driving and just ran open pipes for a few weeks. Obviously I could feel a significant power increase with the open pipes. It was WA 2 LOUD however, and I was nervous about getting in trouble with the locals. After all I want to have fun driving the car, not putz around all the time and literally be embarrassed even when just casually pulling away from a stoplight.
So I got the JCL's. I went ahead and uncapped them before the install b/c I wanted maximum power out of them. Truth be told, I did not dyno the car before and after, but I could not tell ANY power loss compared to open pipes. :) Sound is very loud at WOT (wouldn't be as bad if I'd left them capped up, I'm sure), but at part-throttle cruise it just sounds great. Not too loud or obnoxious... but you can definitely hear them, like you should with sidepipes. :D
I recently upped the ante with my combo and the JCL's are still flowing great, as is evidenced by my power numbers.
Unless you have a very, very mild SBC I would not mess with the Hooker glasspacks. I sold mine at a huge loss.
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Re: Hooker glasspack inserts or spiral baffles??? which is better value (WA 2 FST)
baffles :cool:
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Re: Hooker glasspack inserts or spiral baffles??? which is better value (nitrocharger)
Not even a question. I had the glasspacks and the sound sucked as well as the performance. For the pain in the azz to install the sidepipes and then pull them off to remove the glasspacks it really is worth while to do it right the first time. Go JCL and dont look back you will not be disappointed.
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Re: Hooker glasspack inserts or spiral baffles??? which is better value (nitrocharger)
baffles :thumbs: If you get the reverse flow inserts you'll end up replacing them within the next year with baffles anyway. I still have my reverse flows sitting in the garage :crazy: :leaving:
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Re: Hooker glasspack inserts or spiral baffles??? which is better value (SnoDrgn)
Spiral baffles all the way :smash:
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Re: Hooker glasspack inserts or spiral baffles??? which is better value (SnoDrgn)
The Hooker glasspacks are horrible for two reasons:
1) The glasspack core diameter is tiny (1 7/8")
2) It uses a louvered core tube so that the metal is punched INTO the airstream, causing the effective diameter to be even less.
I vote for generic perferated core glasspacks which are basically a straight pipe with a bunch of holes drilled in the core tubes, wrapped with fiberglass. Then, have a muffler shop weld some disks to slip fit them into the side tubes.
I actually bought just the glass pack muffler core tube (2 1/2") and had disks welded to it. THen, wrapped the tube with fiberglass and slid it in the side tube. Total cost including muffler shop labor was about $70 for the pair. This also allowed me to not have to drill holes in the side tube.
I've heard nothing but good things about the JCLs, but I can't stomach the price.
1) The glasspack core diameter is tiny (1 7/8")
2) It uses a louvered core tube so that the metal is punched INTO the airstream, causing the effective diameter to be even less.
I vote for generic perferated core glasspacks which are basically a straight pipe with a bunch of holes drilled in the core tubes, wrapped with fiberglass. Then, have a muffler shop weld some disks to slip fit them into the side tubes.
I actually bought just the glass pack muffler core tube (2 1/2") and had disks welded to it. THen, wrapped the tube with fiberglass and slid it in the side tube. Total cost including muffler shop labor was about $70 for the pair. This also allowed me to not have to drill holes in the side tube.
I've heard nothing but good things about the JCLs, but I can't stomach the price.
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Re: Hooker glasspack inserts or spiral baffles??? which is better value (BeaterShark)
As everyone said....Spriral baffles...hands down!
Just wanted to let you know JETHOT is a great company. but sometimes the product doesnt come out perfect....if you search topics by my name and title Jethot....you see i posted some pics of my pipes...fortunately they are going to recoat them for free. Only other complaint with them is they supplied absoluetly no mounting hardware...make sure you tell them you want it...
Chris
Just wanted to let you know JETHOT is a great company. but sometimes the product doesnt come out perfect....if you search topics by my name and title Jethot....you see i posted some pics of my pipes...fortunately they are going to recoat them for free. Only other complaint with them is they supplied absoluetly no mounting hardware...make sure you tell them you want it...
Chris
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Re: Hooker glasspack inserts or spiral baffles??? which is better value (nitrocharger)
If I'm going to put any mufflers into my sidepipes - it will be the STS baffles...