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Old 10-09-2003, 09:58 PM
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I am getting ready to renew the interior in my 79. I know what I need for a heat barrier. I want to know what to use for sound deadening. I was looking at some stereo sites and found that durasheild(?) will cost a arm and a leg. I want to cover the whole rear compartment,floorboards,doors and behind the dash.I would like to stay away from tar based products. Any ideas?????
Old 10-09-2003, 10:02 PM
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Default Re: What for sound deadening (toyvet1)

How about a nice set of earplugs... hehe

Actually depending on your specific requirements I would try POR-15 in this scenario or call them and ask for a specific recommendation from thier lineup.

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Old 10-09-2003, 11:36 PM
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If you looking for a cheap alternative, go to home depot and pick up the hot water heater blacket- cotton pile with foil backing. I underlaid my carpet with that and it also is a heat barrier.
Old 10-09-2003, 11:55 PM
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if i'm not mistaken most insulation serves as both a heat and sound barrier, just depends on what you can afford... dynamat is the best, they offer several different products of various high prices... :D
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if i'm not mistaken most insulation serves as both a heat and sound barrier, just depends on what you can afford... dynamat is the best, they offer several different products of various high prices... :D
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I am putting in the aluminum backed jute padding. You get it at Pep Boys, 4 foot wide roll, I think it's 10 feet long for $20. I have been told 2 will do a C3.
Old 10-10-2003, 05:51 AM
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I used Dynomat in my Datsun. Expensive, but it really works and I really didn't want to have to rip out the interior and do it all over again if I wasn't happy. There are some less expensive alternatives - one is called Brown Bread.
Old 10-10-2003, 07:34 AM
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You know the factory used a heavy tarpaper with jute behind it, and in conversion or factory window vans......in the rear on the floor and over the wheel wells is the same thing mostly...all formed and moulded for wheel wells, and it's FREE, at my favorite haunt....junkyards.....
find a newer van, fresher material....nice and clean....

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Old 10-10-2003, 08:36 AM
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get Brown Bread, it's just as good as dynomat extreme and costs less. Don't use the home depot crap.
Old 10-10-2003, 08:52 AM
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:iagree:
I installed brown bead under the door panels on my 80- it really quits things down.
Old 10-10-2003, 09:00 AM
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where does one find this "Brown Bread"? thx
Old 10-10-2003, 09:03 AM
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where does one find this "Brown Bread"? thx
http://www.b-quiet.com/

or Ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...&category=1498


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Old 10-10-2003, 09:29 AM
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I would say Dynomat. My brother uses it in his monte carlo, which is his stereo compitition car. He has two layers of the stuff and it really helps eliminate vibrations and road noise. For him he uses it to keep the bass pressure in the car, and eliminate that trunk rattle most cars with bass have. Just remember if you want to go quick any sound deadener will add excess weight to a vehicle.
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where does one find this "Brown Bread"? thx
http://www.b-quiet.com/

or Ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...&category=1498
Metal Wulf, is this enough to cover our cars. I want to cover as much of the firewall and the rear storage area too if I can.
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Here's how I did it. http://mywebpages.comcast.net/vettfixr/page14.htm
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Metal Wulf, is this enough to cover our cars. I want to cover as much of the firewall and the rear storage area too if I can.
You should be able to get at least one layer down with the 70sq-ft. I don't know for sure, since I haven't gotten to the interior part of my restoration.
Old 10-11-2003, 02:29 PM
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Default Re: What for sound deadening (Metal Wulf)

:iagree:

I bought 100sq ft of Phatmat (another cheaper Dynomat clone). I had plenty left over after doing the entire floor and both door panels. I'd say 70 or less.

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Old 10-12-2003, 12:20 AM
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Default Re: What for sound deadening (toyvet1)

My vote is for Dynamat Xtreme. I bought at ebay prices, about $100 plus shipping for 36 square feet bulk pack. You will need close to two full packs. I did a careful before and after test with my ZO6. Without any Dynamat, the sound level was 80-81 db's on smooth asphalt @ 70mph cruise, no radio or vents blowing.

After installing Dynamat in both doors, trans tunnel, floors, and rear cargo area the db's dropped to 77-78. A 4 db drop is considered half the noise. Decibel ratings are not linear.

A tip used in Fixed roof coupes like the ZO6 is to make a partition behind the seats at the rear window to block the noise from the noisy rear compartment. There is a lot of axle, tire, exhaust, and other road noises that come through this area. One reason why station wagons are much louder than sedans. Anyway, the rear partition dropped the noise on the Z to 73db's.

The car is now very pleasant to drive. The radio volume does not need to be raised from zero to 70 mph. Conversing is easy. The foil lined bubble wrap insulation just doesn't have the ability to remove the resonance that the Dynamat does.

I did the entire interior of my 69 in Dynamat Xtreme too. I know it helps a great deal, but I didn't do a before and after test for comparison. Old R&T tests show db measurements of c3's to be about 78-80 using the same "A" scale (not "C" scale) that I used. The A scale measure sounds the human ear can hear. The "C" scale measures sounds over a much broader spectrum. You may think it is quiet; but, in reality something might be making a very loud and very low frequency noise that would register a high db reading even though you can't hear it.

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