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Old 09-16-2003, 01:43 PM
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Default H pipe or X pipe. Help me decide.

Now that I have my new 454 installed I need to tie in the exhaust. I installed a set of Hooker Super Comp headers with the install. I have new 2.5 inch exhaust all ready installed in the car. Just need to tie it in. The guy at the exhaust shop is trying to talk me into an X pipe. I was thinking of just an H pipe. Anybody have any suggestions or experiance with either? Or should I just forget it and have him just tie in the exhaust without either.

Thanks in advance. :hurray:
Old 09-16-2003, 02:24 PM
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Default Re: H pipe or X pipe. Help me decide. (conway62)

X is better.
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Default Re: H pipe or X pipe. Help me decide. (Metal Wulf)

X is better.
:iagree: but you might not even feel the diff, if your guy wants to install an X and it is no more money than an H I would do it.
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Default Re: H pipe or X pipe. Help me decide. (Fevre)

I don't agree that an X is better. I think they both have thier merits. If you'd like to see a comparison on a Mustang, check this link out:
http://www.mustangexhaust.com/tech/HvsX/HvsX.htm

There are a few studies that show that an H pipe produces more torque in the lower RPM range while the X pipe helps with HP in the higher RPMS. They both have distinctive sounds, so I would go online and listen to a buch with your chosen mufflers to decide what you want. You may also want to consider installing a flanged H pipe to prevent you from having to drop the whole exhaust in case you want to move a pipe to work on one side of the car.

There are MANY other threads in the past about this, here is a link to one:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=201381

Old 09-16-2003, 03:20 PM
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Default Re: H pipe or X pipe. Help me decide. (tersian)

I don't agree that an X is better. I think they both have thier merits. If you'd like to see a comparison on a Mustang, check this link out:
http://www.mustangexhaust.com/tech/HvsX/HvsX.htm

There are a few studies that show that an H pipe produces more torque in the lower RPM range while the X pipe helps with HP in the higher RPMS. They both have distinctive sounds, so I would go online and listen to a buch with your chosen mufflers to decide what you want. You may also want to consider installing a flanged H pipe to prevent you from having to drop the whole exhaust in case you want to move a pipe to work on one side of the car.

There are MANY other threads in the past about this, here is a link to one:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=201381
As Clint Eastwood once said:

"That is the problem with opinions (tests) they are like a-holes, everyone has one."



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Old 09-16-2003, 03:32 PM
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Default Re: H pipe or X pipe. Help me decide. (Fevre)

I have an h-pipe but there was not enough room under my car for an X-pipe.I am quite pleased with it


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Old 09-16-2003, 04:06 PM
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Default Re: H pipe or X pipe. Help me decide. (conway62)

2.5 in pipes, Dr. Gas "X", Flowmaster Delta 50's.

I like it a LOT!
Old 09-16-2003, 04:19 PM
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Default Re: H pipe or X pipe. Help me decide. (Alwyn678)

I just had new true duals installed with a H-pipe. I was told that an X-pipe is better, but only if it's close to the front. The C3's it's hard to get close to the front because of the tranny. He said it would be a waste to install an X-pipe that far back.
Old 09-16-2003, 05:13 PM
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Default Re: H pipe or X pipe. Help me decide. (conway62)

First choice: X Pipe

Second Choice: H Pipe

Third Choice: Strait Duels

Fourth Choice: Hari-kari
Old 09-16-2003, 09:34 PM
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Default Re: H pipe or X pipe. Help me decide. (jpatrick636)

I have headers, 2.5" pipe, X-pipe, and Flowmaster 40's. I like it, and my mechanic said it was no problem to install. I actually wish it was a little louder, but I liked the performance benefit of the X pipe more :cheers:
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Default Re: H pipe or X pipe. Help me decide. (Ryan77)

They both make the exhaust a bit quieter- and are both suppose to be as far forward as possable--Glenn :p:
Old 09-16-2003, 10:38 PM
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Default Re: H pipe or X pipe. Help me decide. (conway62)

x is better but you can probably get the H-pipe installed and still get benefit from improved scavenging and better tuned, softened rumble. The same muffler shop that installed my 2.5" duals, performed a very clean, efficient, H-pipe installation and for $50. They even took the time to adjust my duals so the exhaust tips were lined up.
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Default Re: H pipe or X pipe. Help me decide. (mvftw)

A good shop can fabricate an H pipe that runs under the tranny. Here's pics of what I had done on mine and a pic of the Dynomax Ultraflow polished stainless mufflers that I installed later. It works real nice.



Old 09-17-2003, 01:27 PM
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Default Re: H pipe or X pipe. Help me decide. (vettfixr)

vettfixr: nice set-up!!!
Old 09-17-2003, 01:58 PM
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Default Re: H pipe or X pipe. Help me decide. (Metal Wulf)

X is better.
:iagree:
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Default Re: H pipe or X pipe. Help me decide. (marky mark)

vettfixr: nice set-up!!!
Thanks. :)
Old 09-17-2003, 02:29 PM
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Default Re: H pipe or X pipe. Help me decide. (mvftw)

mvftw -
It's probably more accurate to say that the closer the x pipe is to the front the better. In addition to balancing exhaust pressure side to side, it doubles the cross section of the exhaust system behind the X.

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Old 09-17-2003, 02:49 PM
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Default Re: H pipe or X pipe. Help me decide. (vettfixr)

vettfixr: nice set-up!!!
Thanks. :)
Vettfixr

where did you have the work done? was it a NJ shop?
Old 09-18-2003, 09:34 AM
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Default Re: H pipe or X pipe. Help me decide. (6t9l4t6)

I had the work done at Kaspers Korner. in fact they took the pictures when they had it up on the rack. Here's their website.Look in the Galleries for examples of x pipes and custom systems. http://www.kasperskorner.com/kasperskorner.html
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I had the work done at Kaspers Korner. in fact they took the pictures when they had it up on the rack. Here's their website.Look in the Galleries for examples of x pipes and custom systems. http://www.kasperskorner.com/kasperskorner.html
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