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Old 08-14-2003, 08:05 PM
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I like the 454/6 speed combo. Whatcha think? :crazy: I guess I can blow off the paint job another year.
Old 08-14-2003, 08:07 PM
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Default Re: Should I sell my TPI and get a BB? (Budman78)

Is the dark side calling :yesnod:

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Default Re: Should I sell my TPI and get a BB? (Budman78)

IMO - The best bang for the buck is the large CI. small blocks. If you remember Monty - which was an extreme case made nearly 700 hp and 600 foot pounds of TQ out of a 427 ci Dart block.

Those 415 - 427 ci small blocks in the milder states that only make 500 hp are making mid 11 second runs. What more could you want?:)

Old 08-14-2003, 08:34 PM
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Default Re: Should I sell my TPI and get a BB? (Lt1er)

Go for the BB, no doubt. I REAL Big Block will always make more power mod for mod than a BIG ci Small block.

Then again I'm biased. :D
Old 08-14-2003, 09:08 PM
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Default Re: Should I sell my TPI and get a BB? (Budman78)

I like the 454/6 speed combo. Whatcha think? :crazy: I guess I can blow off the paint job another year.
As long as you EFI it! :D
Old 08-14-2003, 09:23 PM
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Default Re: Should I sell my TPI and get a BB? (Budman78)

you break your transmission and you want more power??? :D
Old 08-14-2003, 09:24 PM
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Default Re: Should I sell my TPI and get a BB? (Gameshow Bob)

big small blocks are NOT cost efficient, a BB is the answer
Old 08-15-2003, 04:37 AM
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Default Re: Should I sell my TPI and get a BB? (Gameshow Bob)

you break your transmission and you want more power??? :D
Makes sense to me. My inspiration occurred when my wife broke a fingernail! :lol: AS someone quoted(BB Bowwagger maybe), no matter the question, the answer is BB! :lol:
Old 08-15-2003, 10:53 AM
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Default Re: Should I sell my TPI and get a BB? (Budman78)

Get a stroker and LT1 retro intake for your current set up. The tpi while not support big horse numbers like the LT1 intake can. This is the route I am going.
Old 08-15-2003, 12:50 PM
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Default Re: Should I sell my TPI and get a BB? (Fevre)

I thought that an lt1 was reverse flow so you can't use it or something to that effect :crazy:


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Default Re: Should I sell my TPI and get a BB? (battsup)

I thought that an lt1 was reverse flow so you can't use it or something to that effect :crazy:
Yeah, but you can still use the miniram intake on an L98 or other earlier small block just as well.
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Default Re: Should I sell my TPI and get a BB? (battsup)

You can use the intake with some modifications. A guy sells them premoded for about $400 at www.lt1intake.com I have one on my Formula. Here is a pic of one, notice the dist in the back of the intake, LT1's do not have dist:




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Default Re: Should I sell my TPI and get a BB? (Fevre)

:withstupid:

And regardless, the stock miniram won't block the dist. hole on a pre-LT-1 small block.
Old 08-15-2003, 01:29 PM
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Should I sell my TPI and get a BB?
YES!!! Budman78, if my '82 (Cross-Fire/700R4/2.87:1) wasn't in as-delivered condition (see sig), and there-fore still 'worth-something', there'd be a hopped-up ZZ502 between the fenders now, backed by a THM400 & 4.11 gears. By the time you build a big-cube SBC (415-421-427-454), with a bottom-end capable of making 600 HP without fear of coming home-on-the-hook' (splayed caps, after-market/high-dollar block, billet crank, H/D rods, custom pistons, small-base circle cam, etc.), you'll have MUCH more invested than swapping-over (water-pump, headers, eytc.) to the Rat. You won't need higher compression in the Rat to make what REALLY accelerates your car; TORQUE!!! It'll be less tempermental, too (instead of 'winding-up', it'll 'GRUNT'!), AND you'll have a motor that is 'too-big for NHRA Pro-Stock'!!! How many Corvette owners can say THAT??? :yesnod:
P.S.: as I've stated before, on Easter, I saw a guy with a ZZ502/THM400/'on-sale' converter/3.90-gears/slicks run 12.03 @ 109 MPH, on pump-gas, shifting @ 5300 RPM. I talked to him in the pits following his 2nd run (broke the rear-end on launch!!!), and I believe it was bone-stock, outta the box (crate?). Think you can run THOSE kinda numbers with a streetable SBC?
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Default Re: Should I sell my TPI and get a BB? (vvv90)

If you want a cruiser with that BB sound and gobs of torque. If you want something that you drive often, somewhat economical, and strong go the L98, LT1, LS1 route.
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Should I sell my TPI and get a BB?
YES!!! Budman78, if my '82 (Cross-Fire/700R4/2.87:1) wasn't in as-delivered condition (see sig), and there-fore still 'worth-something', there'd be a hopped-up ZZ502 between the fenders now, backed by a THM400 & 4.11 gears. By the time you build a big-cube SBC (415-421-427-454), with a bottom-end capable of making 600 HP without fear of coming home-on-the-hook' (splayed caps, after-market/high-dollar block, billet crank, H/D rods, custom pistons, small-base circle cam, etc.), you'll have MUCH more invested than swapping-over (water-pump, headers, eytc.) to the Rat. You won't need higher compression in the Rat to make what REALLY accelerates your car; TORQUE!!! It'll be less tempermental, too (instead of 'winding-up', it'll 'GRUNT'!), AND you'll have a motor that is 'too-big for NHRA Pro-Stock'!!! How many Corvette owners can say THAT??? :yesnod:
P.S.: as I've stated before, on Easter, I saw a guy with a ZZ502/THM400/'on-sale' converter/3.90-gears/slicks run 12.03 @ 109 MPH, on pump-gas, shifting @ 5300 RPM. I talked to him in the pits following his 2nd run (broke the rear-end on launch!!!), and I believe it was bone-stock, outta the box (crate?). Think you can run THOSE kinda numbers with a streetable SBC?

Guess if you don't mind going faster, you could try this guys combo:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zero...ofile&id=22200
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Default Re: Should I sell my TPI and get a BB? (Budman78)

A 383 with modified tpi will produce numbers in the driving range near a BB for less $ and a lot less weight.
Remember that changing to a BB will entail different brackets for all accessories and exhaust manifolds and headers. Due to the extra weight, you will probably end up making changes to your suspension as well.

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Old 08-15-2003, 01:54 PM
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Default Re: Should I sell my TPI and get a BB? (Fevre)

Guess if you don't mind going faster, you could try this guys combo:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zero...ofile&id=22200
Mighty impressive set-up; I'm considering a similiar combo in my Z28. 11.8:1 CR & solid-roller cam ain't 'my' opinion of 'streetable', though. All things being equal, though, what ET would a similiarly prepared (big cam, race-gas, etc.) 502 run? :confused: I was comparing the cost/benefit ratio of a STOCK ZZ502 vs. the 'over-400" SBC' that people like to consider :thumbs:
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Default Re: Should I sell my TPI and get a BB? (Budman78)

Do it!! Then do like zwede says and inject it.

Brett :thumbs:
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Default Re: Should I sell my TPI and get a BB? (Brettmc)

I went with the stroker over the BB for the weight savings and driveability. I get 22 mpg and have run a 13 flat (only been to the strip twice). I know with better tires I'll easily be mid 12's and with nitrous I'll be deep in the 11's. I have jsut over 400 ft. lb. of torque at the rear wheels (only 290 HP at the rears though :(). I'm happy with the setup, but if I had to do it again I'd start with a LS1 block and supercharge it. Probably wouldn't have costs TOO much more. :rolleyes:


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