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Old 07-07-2003, 07:02 PM
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As you guys already know I've been trying to get my car running ever since i joined the forum. Well now I have it idling, until i knock it off the choke, then it dies. There is no backfire or nuthin it just dies. The carb i have is a Carter AFB (same as an edelbrock performer). Someone please help me, I need to take the car to a car show in september and don't want to have to tow it there.
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Can anybody get me a scan of the latest Car Craft magazine? I need the section of the 20 carb questions answered or something to that effect. It is in the june 2003 edition. Thanks in advance.
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Old 07-08-2003, 12:45 PM
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Default Re: Still dies when choke is knocked off (battsup)

A few things to look at, when it's idling with the choke on is it fast idling? Look at the RPM guage to see what RPM it's at when choke is on.

I'm guessing that it's fast idling and then when you take the choke off it idles so low it dies, if so turn your idle screw up so it idles around 750 rpm with the choke off.
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Default Re: Still dies when choke is knocked off (Tominator)

Tominator: Yes it is fast idling(1600-1800 RPM) but when i tune it down to 800 RPM and shut her off she wont start.
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Default Re: Still dies when choke is knocked off (battsup)

So if I'm understanding correctly when it idles low it dies, roughly what is the lowest it will idle.

I'm hope some one is going to chime in here with some more ideas.
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Default Re: Still dies when choke is knocked off (Tominator)

Well as i said before the car does idle. But it only fast idles, as soon as i press the gas pedal the RPMs drop right away and it dies. I can set the fast idle down to 800 but then it won't start up.
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O ya 1 more thing, when it starts to die i can save it by holding the choke valve almost closed. :confused:
Old 07-09-2003, 01:18 PM
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Default Re: Still dies when choke is knocked off (battsup)

Hey i might be able to scan that artical when i get home. I get that magizine but i dont know if ill be able to find it. If i do i will scan and send it to you. Thanks

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Thanks James. I am going to video tape what is happening and then post it to see if anyone can figure it out after watching the video.
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Default Re: Still dies when choke is knocked off (battsup)

check your floats sounds like she is starving for gas.
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ok i will do that then
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Default Re: Still dies when choke is knocked off (battsup)

Nothing wrong with the floats, I took some videos of what is happening and i will post them as soon as i can upload them.
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Can somebody host the video for me? I just realized that cardomain only hosts pictures and not files.
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Default Re: Still dies when choke is knocked off (battsup)

Where are all the carb gurus? are they all on vacation?
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Default Re: Still dies when choke is knocked off (battsup)

man im sorry dude, i cant find that freakin magizine, it might have gotten thrown out. I think that was the one with the orange camaro in it (orange crush) and i was going to show it to my buddy thats restoring a 68 camaro. I must have left it in the car and it got thrown out in the trash, sorry i cant help. :nonod:
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Default Re: Still dies when choke is knocked off (James B)

DEFINITELY starving for gas. Can you keep it running by dribbling gas down the carb? You might want to start by setting the mixture to the default starting point. I don't know what that is for your carb, but it should be easy enough to find out. It's going to be close the idle mixture screw all the way, then back it out x number of turns. Are you sure enough gas is getting to the carb in the first place? i.e pump, filter, pinched line, etc.
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Default Re: Still dies when choke is knocked off (Diode)

I'm sure that enough fuel is getting in because the first thing i did was change the fuel line and the fuel filter. After that my dad took the carb apart and made sure that all the jets were clean by using carb cleaner.

here is a link to the video
http://www3.telus.net/cgi-shared/fil...file=Carb1.MOV

As you can see when i held the choke valve nearly closed the car continued to run but when i let go it died.


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Default Re: Still dies when choke is knocked off (battsup)

Again, did you actually check the volume of fuel getting to the carb by pumping into a measuring cup? Not usually a problem at idle, but… And you still need to set the idle mixture properly. If it's set way lean, you going to get the starvation problem you have. Was the carb working before your dad took it apart? Everything go back together the right way? Float height set right? Set too low and it will starve. Does this carb have an internal paper or ceramic filter? If you have to choke it to keep it running, not enough fuel is getting down the barrels, period. If you are CERTAIN that everything went together correctly and you are CERTAIN that you don't have a delivery problem, it has to be the idle mixture setting. There is no other explanation.

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