For What Reason Would a 1963 Become a 1967?
02-13-2003, 07:06 PM
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For What Reason Would a 1963 Become a 1967?
Just curious. What do you think happened to this 1963 to allow it to metamorphose like a butterfly?
http://www.holtautosales.com/Showroo...asp?lngID=1373
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02-13-2003, 07:08 PM
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Re: For What Reason Would a 1963 Become a 1967? (paul79)
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02-13-2003, 07:48 PM
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Re: For What Reason Would a 1963 Become a 1967? (Robert N)
This thread is not a critique of the vendor. Although I must say the finance rates are pretty steep. And Holt's have presented the car fairly and honestly. I am just wondering what might have induced someone to re-build a 1963 into a 1967? We have all seen the stinger hood conversions, they are very popular, but floor pans? A major accident? In a certain way I like this car: I would pay ~$18,000 for it. As a driver it would very pretty and would satisfy my C2 wannebee needs.
02-13-2003, 08:40 PM
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Re: For What Reason Would a 1963 Become a 1967? (paul79)
This thread is not a critique of the vendor. Although I must say the finance rates are pretty steep. And Holt's have presented the car fairly and honestly. I am just wondering what might have induced someone to re-build a 1963 into a 1967? We have all seen the stinger hood conversions, they are very popular, but floor pans? A major accident? In a certain way I like this car: I would pay ~$18,000 for it. As a driver it would very pretty and would satisfy my C2 wannebee needs.
As for the guess on my part, how different is a 67 from a 63 (C2s are out of my area of knowledge)? Possible the owner justed like the body and layout?
possible that the car was a wreck and someone salvaged it?
02-13-2003, 09:14 PM
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Re: For What Reason Would a 1963 Become a 1967? (Robert N)
If it has been professionally rebuilt, and it looks like it has, I would go for it! But not at that price. It is truly a lovely blend of early C2 with later, and a 396 BB thrown in to make a very nice hybrid. Not NCRS but a very pretty car that would sure turn heads. And give the owner a lot of pleasure! The car intrigues me but I would not buy without learning the history.
02-13-2003, 10:08 PM
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Re: For What Reason Would a 1963 Become a 1967? (paul79)
Very peculiar. Great looking car, but it would take a great deal of research and negotiations for me to even consider buying it.
02-13-2003, 10:25 PM
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Re: For What Reason Would a 1963 Become a 1967? (paul79)
The guy probably had a basket case '63 and really wanted a '67 the only thing he had to change were the fender vents hood and grille plus cut a hole for the backup light. In the interior the door panels, seat covers and moving the parking brake would need to be done plus some minor trim pieces and the guages. The car looks like it sill has the original master cylinder so does it still have drum brakes ?? :crazy: with a big block :eek: :eek:, but all in all it looks like a really nicely done car and you certainly couldn't buy a '67 big block roadster that nice for that kind of money , i'm not sure why he changed the floor pans though.
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02-13-2003, 10:46 PM
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Re: For What Reason Would a 1963 Become a 1967? (paul79)
I wonder how they got that big block in the 63 frame? It'd be intersting to see if they whacked the crossmember for harmonic balancer clearance or if it's got a later frame also.
02-14-2003, 09:49 AM
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Re: For What Reason Would a 1963 Become a 1967? (paul79)
My first thought was that they droped a 67 body on a 63 frame. But then remembered that you cannot put a big block in a 63 frame :rolleyes: the front cross member is different on 65 and later to allow clearance for the big block. So may be a 63 body on a 67 frame? Then why make all the body changes. Wonder about the brakes, are they drum or disc?
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02-14-2003, 09:57 AM
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Re: For What Reason Would a 1963 Become a 1967? (Tom73)
May have been a '67 that was stolen some years ago and reVINed as a '63 (VIN tag from totaled '63 installed on stolen '67).
Happened to a Grand National I bought. Title said '85 but it had EVERYTHING that an '86 or '87 only had. Did a little checking, turned out the '87 had been stolen 7 years earlier and the '85 had been wrecked around the same time. This is hard to verify after 5 years or so because the records are removed from the computer system. Have to know where the '67 would have been stolen and call the theft authorities there, and hope you get someone who cares enough to look into it.
I would be wary of that many changes for no apparent reason.
Jeff
Happened to a Grand National I bought. Title said '85 but it had EVERYTHING that an '86 or '87 only had. Did a little checking, turned out the '87 had been stolen 7 years earlier and the '85 had been wrecked around the same time. This is hard to verify after 5 years or so because the records are removed from the computer system. Have to know where the '67 would have been stolen and call the theft authorities there, and hope you get someone who cares enough to look into it.
I would be wary of that many changes for no apparent reason.
Jeff
02-14-2003, 11:23 AM
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Re: For What Reason Would a 1963 Become a 1967? (paul79)
who ever went through all that trouble leaves me wondering - I would not touch it, chances are the car was made from a number of donated cars :smash:
02-14-2003, 11:59 AM
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Re: For What Reason Would a 1963 Become a 1967? (RATT7)
Most Corvettes do stay their same year. Due to some unknown phenomenon, this IS NOT the first case. We have seen where '63 Split windows morph into a '64 coupe or even a 6 cyl '54 into a V8 '55. Little is known at this time, but some have suspected a "Bubba" may be behind this.
02-14-2003, 11:45 PM
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Re: For What Reason Would a 1963 Become a 1967? (Paul Borowski)
Most Corvettes do stay their same year. is.
I would say MOST is a bit extreme...there have been cases where cars have questioned pasts, but the far majority of Corvettes I have run across and that my friends have owned have been easily legitimized through paperwork.
Again, I will state that the only anomoly I have run across turned out to be stolen car.
Using parts on a legit car is one thing...stealing a car and concealing that fact is another. The more parts/items that have been changed, and the more radical those changes, the more suspicious one should be.
Jeff