Retrofitted rubber bodymounts on '71. Results inside.
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Retrofitted rubber bodymounts on '71. Results inside.
First drive this morning in the '71 with the new rubber (73-up) bodymounts. Happy to report they work GREAT!
The ride is vastly improved. It has a much smoother, more solid feel. Doesn't feel like a kit car anymore. Road noise is reduced to the same level as any new sports car.
What surprised me was that exhaust noise is reduced also. It's actually reduced so much I'm now thinking it is too quiet!
So conclusion: Highly recommended if you have a 68-72.
The ride is vastly improved. It has a much smoother, more solid feel. Doesn't feel like a kit car anymore. Road noise is reduced to the same level as any new sports car.
What surprised me was that exhaust noise is reduced also. It's actually reduced so much I'm now thinking it is too quiet!
So conclusion: Highly recommended if you have a 68-72.
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Re: Retrofitted rubber bodymounts on '71. Results inside. (zwede)
Nifty.
How hard is it to change these?
Is it a case of a super dooper "While I'm here" thing being possible (e.g. if you have to lift the body all, why not rebuild the frame?)?
:cheers:
How hard is it to change these?
Is it a case of a super dooper "While I'm here" thing being possible (e.g. if you have to lift the body all, why not rebuild the frame?)?
:cheers:
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Re: Retrofitted rubber bodymounts on '71. Results inside. (zwede)
Clad it turned out great. I bet my whole car will rattle with the new poly mounts, just the way I like it! :lol: :cheers: :steering:
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Re: Retrofitted rubber bodymounts on '71. Results inside. (zwede)
Markus, you owe us a write up on how you did it! That is my biggest complaint about my car, the kit car feel from the solid body mounts.
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Re: Retrofitted rubber bodymounts on '71. Results inside. (groovyjay)
Clad it turned out great. I bet my whole car will rattle with the new poly mounts, just the way I like it! :lol: :cheers: :steering:
out as expected - maybe better.
I just ordered a set of POLY body mount bushings !!!
Do yo uthink the poly will be as firm as the Aluminum ? I hope not.
It was an easy deci$ion to make. I went to order a couple #4 reinforcements
from ZIP and they have all the poly stuff on sale - plus the "ZIP-10" 10% discount.
The body mount set in POLY (no bolts/washers) was $47 before discount - so
about $42 for the set. I think the rubber mounts were $18 EACH !!
Zwede: Qs -
Did you use the original bolts (long enough) ?
Were the holes in the body big enough to accomodate the rubber bushing and
steel spacer ?
Did you consider poly ? why not ?
Thanks -DaVe iN nH
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Re: Retrofitted rubber bodymounts on '71. Results inside. (Smokehouse69)
Markus, you owe us a write up on how you did it! That is my biggest complaint about my car, the kit car feel from the solid body mounts.
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I just ordered a set of POLY body mount bushings !!!
Do yo uthink the poly will be as firm as the Aluminum ? I hope not.
It was an easy deci$ion to make. I went to order a couple #4 reinforcements
from ZIP and they have all the poly stuff on sale - plus the "ZIP-10" 10% discount.
The body mount set in POLY (no bolts/washers) was $47 before discount - so
about $42 for the set. I think the rubber mounts were $18 EACH !!
Do yo uthink the poly will be as firm as the Aluminum ? I hope not.
It was an easy deci$ion to make. I went to order a couple #4 reinforcements
from ZIP and they have all the poly stuff on sale - plus the "ZIP-10" 10% discount.
The body mount set in POLY (no bolts/washers) was $47 before discount - so
about $42 for the set. I think the rubber mounts were $18 EACH !!
The poly is just that: A poly donut. Much simpler.
Will it be as harsh as solid mounts? Probably not. But it won't be as comfy as rubber.
Zwede: Qs -
Did you use the original bolts (long enough) ?
Did you use the original bolts (long enough) ?
Were the holes in the body big enough to accomodate the rubber bushing and
steel spacer ?
steel spacer ?
Did you consider poly ? why not ?
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Re: Retrofitted rubber bodymounts on '71. Results inside. (Twin_Turbo)
Marck, the Aluminum mounts are pretty cheap.
My originals were corroded breaking into power in places - after 30 years or service.
I would definitely spend on new ones here. :yesnod:
My originals were corroded breaking into power in places - after 30 years or service.
I would definitely spend on new ones here. :yesnod:
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Re: Retrofitted rubber bodymounts on '71. Results inside. (conway62)
Aren't the rubber ones an inch thicker than the solid ones? DId that affect steering column alignment or anything else? Joe
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Re: Retrofitted rubber bodymounts on '71. Results inside. (NHvette)
Marck, the Aluminum mounts are pretty cheap.
My originals were corroded breaking into power in places - after 30 years or service.
I would definitely spend on new ones here. :yesnod:
My originals were corroded breaking into power in places - after 30 years or service.
I would definitely spend on new ones here. :yesnod:
Marck
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Re: Retrofitted rubber bodymounts on '71. Results inside. (NHvette)
Marck, the Aluminum mounts are pretty cheap.
My originals were corroded breaking into power in places - after 30 years or service.
I would definitely spend on new ones here. :yesnod:
My originals were corroded breaking into power in places - after 30 years or service.
I would definitely spend on new ones here. :yesnod:
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Re: Retrofitted rubber bodymounts on '71. Results inside. (conway62)
Zweede,
Did you have to remove the body to change the mounts?
Did you have to remove the body to change the mounts?
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Aren't the rubber ones an inch thicker than the solid ones? DId that affect steering column alignment or anything else? Joe
Only change was the steering column. I had to loosen the lower mounts where the column attaches to the firewall. Pushed it down and tightened the bolts. There is enough adjustment to line it up perfectly. It also bought me 3/8" of hoodclearance, something I desperately needed!
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What's a good place to get them? I'm not gonna blow my money w/ large parts houses since they charge insane international handling fees. Marck
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Re: Retrofitted rubber bodymounts on '71. Results inside. (zwede)
First drive this morning in the '71 with the new rubber (73-up) bodymounts. Happy to report they work GREAT!
The ride is vastly improved. It has a much smoother, more solid feel. Doesn't feel like a kit car anymore. Road noise is reduced to the same level as any new sports car.
What surprised me was that exhaust noise is reduced also. It's actually reduced so much I'm now thinking it is too quiet!
So conclusion: Highly recommended if you have a 68-72.
The ride is vastly improved. It has a much smoother, more solid feel. Doesn't feel like a kit car anymore. Road noise is reduced to the same level as any new sports car.
What surprised me was that exhaust noise is reduced also. It's actually reduced so much I'm now thinking it is too quiet!
So conclusion: Highly recommended if you have a 68-72.
The rubber has molded steel re-inforcements inside. It is a pretty clever design. After the bolt is tightened, the steel inserts in the two halves will contact eachother. However, there will be no direct contact between the steel and the body. There will always be rubber inbetween.
Way to go! You have done an excellent job of upgrading your 71 Vette.
This is something I have been rec. all the time on this forum. Alan71 has done as well. Specially designed per Duntov to not affect handling.
:cool:
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Re: Retrofitted rubber bodymounts on '71. Results inside. (zwede)
What's a good place to get them? I'm not gonna blow my money w/ large parts houses since they charge insane international handling fees. Marck
Mark, I had a similar issue some time ago when I still lived in Sweden. I needed aluminum mounts to mount the subframe to the floor on a Camaro. I found that a machine shop could cut and drill aluminum discs very cheaply. I got 6 discs for $20.
Mark, I had a similar issue some time ago when I still lived in Sweden. I needed aluminum mounts to mount the subframe to the floor on a Camaro. I found that a machine shop could cut and drill aluminum discs very cheaply. I got 6 discs for $20.
... and was going to post a similar response. You could also use blocks of
hard rubber. I have heard people make body mounts out of hockey pucks.
No shortage of those in your region.