C3 Tech/Performance V8 Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Basic Tech and Maintenance for the C3 Corvette
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Questions for the Gurus...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-29-2003, 10:03 AM
  #1  
GeneralGrant
Heel & Toe
Thread Starter
 
GeneralGrant's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2002
Location: vvvvvvvvvvvv vv
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Questions for the Gurus...

What kind of gas mileage can one expect with a zz4, what if i add tpi? are there other fuel injected build ups i can have done. My goal is a 350hp or so engine that gets decent gas mileage... My build up from last year, l48 bored .30 over highlift cam, 750 demon carb blah blah blah. gets like 11-12 miles to the gallon and doesnt have the ***** to excuse it. what do you think...
Old 01-29-2003, 10:10 AM
  #2  
SanDiegoPaul
Race Director
Support Corvetteforum!
 
SanDiegoPaul's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2002
Location: San Diego - Deep Within The State of CONFUSION!
Posts: 10,362
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Re: Questions for the Gurus... (GeneralGrant)

Ported injection is certainly more efficient than any carburetor. What is your budjet for this kind of project?

I too, am getting similar mileage with my 388 but I didn't really expect more. The combination I chose puts out a LOT of torque and the seat of the pants feeling is incredible compared with my OEM L-48 :yesnod: :lol: :)

Remember that it take TORQUE to move a heavy vehicle. :thumbs:

Not to get off the subject but my point is that if you choose the right cam and exhaust, a lot can be accomplished. As for mileage, and yes even performance, has the vehicle been Dyno Tuned since it was put in? It should be. Match the distributor curve scientifically to the carb jetting and the type of fuel you run. That can accomplish a lot! :seeya :chevy :hurray:
Old 01-29-2003, 10:13 AM
  #3  
Ganey
Race Director
 
Ganey's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 1999
Location: CORVETTE 77 385 C.I. TEXAS
Posts: 11,520
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 12 Posts

Default Re: Questions for the Gurus... (GeneralGrant)

Stock TPI is restrictive. Looks like you are over carbed for your setup. More data needed like cam & intake.
Old 01-29-2003, 10:23 AM
  #4  
shotgun_000
Safety Car
 
shotgun_000's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2002
Location: No link, No dupe
Posts: 3,551
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Questions for the Gurus... (GeneralGrant)

If you want better gas mileage, consider an overdrive transmission. Many companies build beefed-up 200R4's that can handle 400hp or more. It has a lower first gear, plus overdrive. It will cost you the same as a good EFI system, but I think an overdrive will save you more on gas than EFI would.

Just my .02cents :cheers:
Old 01-29-2003, 10:28 AM
  #5  
groovyjay
Le Mans Master
 
groovyjay's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2000
Posts: 8,175
Received 169 Likes on 91 Posts

Default Re: Questions for the Gurus... (GeneralGrant)

Have thought about Holley or Edelbrock EFI's? :steering:
Old 01-29-2003, 01:23 PM
  #6  
theandies
Team Owner

 
theandies's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2001
Location: Virginia USA
Posts: 22,646
Received 741 Likes on 518 Posts

Default Re: Questions for the Gurus... (groovyjay)

I got 17mph with a Lars rebuilt q-jet a few months back driving from my parents in NC back to home in northern VA. Thats "normal" driving from me (read: not getting on it all the time, I love my 4 barrel). That is a stock ZZ4.
John
Old 01-29-2003, 04:40 PM
  #7  
The Money Pit
Melting Slicks
 
The Money Pit's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2002
Location: Orrtanna Pa.
Posts: 2,840
Likes: 0
Received 96 Likes on 80 Posts

Default Re: Questions for the Gurus... (SanDiegoPaul)

I was still getting 17mpg with the 355 after 110,000 miles with the Edelbrock 1904 that I still run on the 406. Even now I average 15mpg. There's got to be a serious problem for a 350 to get only 12mpg.Vacuum leaks,burnt valves,hole in the gas tank,...........etc.I would estimate the 355 pushed around 320hp,and though was nothing to write home to Mom about,was no slouch.
Old 01-29-2003, 08:11 PM
  #8  
shotgun_000
Safety Car
 
shotgun_000's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2002
Location: No link, No dupe
Posts: 3,551
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Questions for the Gurus... (The Money Pit)

There's got to be a serious problem for a 350 to get only 12mpg.Vacuum leaks,burnt valves,hole in the gas tank,...........etc.
I have to disagree. I recently installed a new 350 engine, that now has about 2,000 miles on it. It replaced an 87' model 350 that had aluminum heads, and about 120,000 on it. Both engines average nearly the same gas mileage - 12mpg. I spared no expense in putting quality parts in my new engine, so I know that everything is in order with the engine.

The reason I get such lousy gas mileage is that I have a 3.70 gear ratio, with a TH350 automatic. Without even getting on the highway, 2500 rpms is fairly commonplace driving around. This is what causes my lousy gas mileage.

GeneralGrant, what gear ratio does your vette have? If it is close to 3.70, this is where your mileage is going.

Although things like new ignition, EFI, tune-up will help gas mileage, they can be only so effective when running a low gear ratio.
Old 01-30-2003, 08:59 AM
  #9  
The Money Pit
Melting Slicks
 
The Money Pit's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2002
Location: Orrtanna Pa.
Posts: 2,840
Likes: 0
Received 96 Likes on 80 Posts

Default Re: Questions for the Gurus... (shotgun_000)

I am running a 3.70 rear. When I baught the car it had 3.08's. When the posi went south I replaced the gearset with 3.70's and consistantly logged 17mpg. I drive 400 miles per week commuting to work.Some of the commute is twisty back roads as you see in my sig,about half is highway.Now with the 406 I've been logging 14.5 to 15 mpg. This is driving the car in a normal manner. When you open up the 795cfm carb,you can watch the gas guage slowly drop.
Old 01-30-2003, 09:10 AM
  #10  
Ganey
Race Director
 
Ganey's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 1999
Location: CORVETTE 77 385 C.I. TEXAS
Posts: 11,520
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 12 Posts

Default Re: Questions for the Gurus... (The Money Pit)

PS Duals & headers increase gas milage.

I thought double digits was good. When the Corvette was relatively new, some guy w/ an economy car said to me something like nice car, bet the gas milage is terrible. I told him, it got great gas milage- I can almost get double digits.

:cool:
Old 01-30-2003, 10:28 AM
  #11  
shotgun_000
Safety Car
 
shotgun_000's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2002
Location: No link, No dupe
Posts: 3,551
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Questions for the Gurus... (The Money Pit)

I am running a 3.70 rear. When I baught the car it had 3.08's. When the posi went south I replaced the gearset with 3.70's and consistantly logged 17mpg. I drive 400 miles per week commuting to work.Some of the commute is twisty back roads as you see in my sig,about half is highway.Now with the 406 I've been logging 14.5 to 15 mpg. This is driving the car in a normal manner. When you open up the 795cfm carb,you can watch the gas guage slowly drop.
Well, that shoots down my theory - back to the drawing board :(

Get notified of new replies

To Questions for the Gurus...




Quick Reply: Questions for the Gurus...



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:28 AM.