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Old 12-17-2002, 11:48 PM
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Default I F'd up.... Damaged my 80528 carb.. :( :( :(

I'm a f'n idiot... I can't even change jets anymore..

Well - I changed the jets in my 80528 Holley... I was done in 25 minutes.. When I started the car - the left fuel bowl was leaking a little bit.. so I tightened the 4 screws that hold the fuel bowl... Well - I overtightened one of them bolts and messed up the thread :( :( :(.. I'm so mad :mad :mad :mad at myself... Now I have to find a good carb shop around town that can fix the carb... DAMN!!! :mad :mad :mad

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Old 12-17-2002, 11:50 PM
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Damn, that sucks. I'll give my Holley if you give me your motor..we'll call it an even trade.


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Old 12-17-2002, 11:52 PM
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Default Re: I F'd up.... Damaged my 80528 carb.. :( :( :( (GrandSportC3)

Isnt that the HP series double pumper? Can you maybe find a helicoil small enough to go in there? Just a thought and Im sure you have already thought of it.
Old 12-17-2002, 11:56 PM
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Damn, that sucks. I'll give my Holley if you give me your motor..we'll call it an even trade.


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Old 12-18-2002, 12:00 AM
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Default Re: I F'd up.... Damaged my 80528 carb.. :( :( :( (lason)

Isnt that the HP series double pumper? Can you maybe find a helicoil small enough to go in there? Just a thought and Im sure you have already thought of it.
It is the HP 750 double pumper (drag race carb)... This carb was f'n expensive... I don't want to mess with the carb... I'm afraid of damaging it too much.. I don't want a temporary fix.. I might change jets again soon.. I'm going to have a carb shop fix it...

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Default Re: I F'd up.... Damaged my 80528 carb.. :( :( :( (GrandSportC3)

Hey, you've got something I want...And I've got something you want. My float bowl isn't strippd, and you're compression isn't too low for you cam...So..You can IM me or call me, and we'll figure out shipping plans... :lurk:
Old 12-18-2002, 12:10 AM
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Helicoils are stronger than the stock threads on your carb - hardly a "quick fix" and relatively cheap and easy to do. It's exactly what a carb shop would do to it anyway.
Old 12-18-2002, 12:16 AM
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Default Re: I F'd up.... Damaged my 80528 carb.. :( :( :( (Langadorf)

Helicoils are stronger than the stock threads on your carb - hardly a "quick fix" and relatively cheap and easy to do. It's exactly what a carb shop would do to it anyway.
I will check with the carb show how much they would charge me to fix it.. If it would be too expensive - I will try to install a helicoil myself... I'm a little worried about doing it myself because of the sensible nature of a carb... If I do it wrong - it could have serious consequences... The last thing that I want is any leaking on my carb.... I've messed up the carb once.. I don't want to do it again..

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Old 12-18-2002, 12:25 AM
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Default Re: I F'd up.... Damaged my 80528 carb.. :( :( :( (GrandSportC3)

Good to know that I'm in good company, that sounds like something that
I would do. And yes have it fixed right the first time, you'll be better off
in the long run.
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Old 12-18-2002, 06:55 AM
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Good to know that I'm in good company, that sounds like something that
I would do. And yes have it fixed right the first time, you'll be better off
in the long run.
:yesnod: :seeya
I'm very careful with all equipment that controls gas or oil... Too risky to mess something up...

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Old 12-18-2002, 07:33 AM
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Default Re: I F'd up.... Damaged my 80528 carb.. :( :( :( (GrandSportC3)

I am sorry to hear this Olivier, I know the pride and care that you take in working on your vettes. I hope that it is an inexpensive fix for you.
Old 12-18-2002, 08:09 AM
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Default Re: I F'd up.... Damaged my 80528 carb.. :( :( :( (gdh)

The Demons come from the factory with helicoils installed.
Old 12-18-2002, 08:46 AM
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Default Re: I F'd up.... Damaged my 80528 carb.. :( :( :( (gdh)

I am sorry to hear this Olivier, I know the pride and care that you take in working on your vettes. I hope that it is an inexpensive fix for you.
I got lucky... The carb shop only charges $20 to fix the thread...
I should have the carb back at noon!!!!

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Old 12-18-2002, 08:48 AM
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Default Re: I F'd up.... Damaged my 80528 carb.. :( :( :( (dman535)

The Demons come from the factory with helicoils installed.
Yep maybe time to upgrade......U can never have Too many carbs... I have three sitting in the garage now :D
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Default Re: I F'd up.... Damaged my 80528 carb.. :( :( :( (dman535)

The Demons come from the factory with helicoils installed.
Demons are great carbs!! Next time I might get a Demon instead of a Holley...

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Old 12-18-2002, 10:24 AM
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Default Re: I F'd up.... Damaged my 80528 carb.. :( :( :( (GrandSportC3)

One thing you might consider if you plan on more jet changes. Pick up a float bowl from JEG's or Summit that has the plugs in the front to enable you to change jets WITHOUT removing the bowl. I have one for my 4160 on the BOSS that I used when I was setting it up (original VERY rare carb), then put the original bowl back on when I was satisfied it was right. Get the tools as well.

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Old 12-18-2002, 10:45 AM
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Default Re: I F'd up.... Damaged my 80528 carb.. :( :( :( (Wrencher)

The float bowl screws are also supposed to be torqued.... but you need an inch-pound torque wrench.

This is a common error. Can you install the screws without torqueing them???
Sure. But now you know why Holley recommends a torque wrench.

Even more common is lousy repair work...

To get the proper thread depth you need the long (non-standard) helicoils and a special helicoil bottoming tap. This is what I use and the thread depth is correct when I'm finished.
Most carb repair shops do not use the long helicoils because they do not have either the longer coils or the bottoming tap. Just a FYI

The short helicoil will work, but it's not a "great" job.

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One thing you might consider if you plan on more jet changes. Pick up a float bowl from JEG's or Summit that has the plugs in the front to enable you to change jets WITHOUT removing the bowl. I have one for my 4160 on the BOSS that I used when I was setting it up (original VERY rare carb), then put the original bowl back on when I was satisfied it was right. Get the tools as well.

Hans
I was actually thinking in getting one of those float bowls... However - I don't change jets all that frequent... As soon as the carb is perfectly tuned in to the engine - I will stick with the setup... I just don't want to run too lean and melt my pistons...

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Old 12-18-2002, 11:02 AM
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Default Re: I F'd up.... Damaged my 80528 carb.. :( :( :( (Tom454)

The float bowl screws are also supposed to be torqued.... but you need an inch-pound torque wrench.

This is a common error. Can you install the screws without torqueing them???
Sure. But now you know why Holley recommends a torque wrench.

Even more common is lousy repair work...

To get the proper thread depth you need the long (non-standard) helicoils and a special helicoil bottoming tap. This is what I use and the thread depth is correct when I'm finished.
Most carb repair shops do not use the long helicoils because they do not have either the longer coils or the bottoming tap. Just a FYI

The short helicoil will work, but it's not a "great" job.
I just want the float bowls to seal tight... I'm not planning to mess too much with the carb...

:cheers:

Olivier
Old 12-18-2002, 11:39 AM
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Default Re: I F'd up.... Damaged my 80528 carb.. :( :( :( (GrandSportC3)

Uh.... back to square one...

That is what the torque value is for... to provide the TIGHTEST SEAL without stripping the threads, distorting the metering block, or warping the main body.

One of us is missing something here.


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