MoMo

Hey any Big Block C3-ers...cruise on into Kill Stories and defend your honor against a C5 dude that thinks the old big block Corvettes weren't fast by today's standards. Give him some of your quarter mile times and assist me in educating this young guy.
The thread is entitled "C3 vs..."

I can't believe how bad he's trashing not just older Corvettes, but all old muscle. I gave him some examples, but he wasn't alive back then, and has never had the pleasure of piloting true torque.

VETDRMS

do you have the thread? i can't find it...

thanks

Stingy74

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=235494

Chuck Harmon

MoMo,

Wish I hadn't read your post. My day seems to have been taken over with comparing my L88 to the new factory hot rods of our day. Tomorrow, I will have to disappear for a while and get back to earning a living, or I won't be able to fill these thirsty beasts. :yesnod:

Chuck

454Big

We have a rule / byverb here in Germany: (Translated, in German its more funny!)

"A big Oak tree doesn´t care about a nasty wild boar rubbing at his bark"


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mountainmotor

Actually I was at the track last Sunday and was surprised at how fast a couple of other than SLP headers stock late model Camaros were running.Not defending them though,no doubt about that.I have not read the post but suspect the guy really needs to drive a hot C2-C3 with Hot Small or Big Chevy and then if he is totally honest with his inner self will ask for forgiveness by asking moderator to delete!

MoMo,
I don't want to junk up your thread but I have a list of times I pulled off the net a few years ago.The site is now gone but would like others to see.It as a very long list,Just email me if you would like me to delete.Be back shortly with it.Of course these were probably many different tracks and drivers ect.

How Fast Were They was what this was called at the time I copied it.


HOW FAST WERE THEY?
Year Model Eng Trans Axle HP Torque 0-60 Quarter Mile Source

1962 Dodge Dart 413 413 3.91 410@5600 470@3600 5.8 14.4@101 mph MT 8/62
1962 Dodge Ramcharger 413 n/a 410@5400 460@4400 5.3 13.75@106.76mph Car Life 6/62
1962 Dodge Ramcharger 413 n/a 410@5400 460@4400 5.8 14.4@101mph MT 8/62
1962 Pontiac Grand Prix SD 421 4.30 405@5600 425@4400 5.4 13.9@107mph MT 5/62
1963 Chevrolet Impala SS 409 n/a 409@6000 420@4000 6.3 14.9@98mph MT 7/63
1963 Dodge Ramcharger 426 Factory Racer 426 4.56 425@5600 480@4400 n/a 12.00@117mph MCR 1987 Annual
1963 Ford Galaxie 500 406 n/a 405@5800 444@3400 7.0 15.3@93mph Car Life 3/62
1963 Pontiac Grand Prix SD 421 n/a 405@5600 425@4000 6.0 14.3@103mph Car Life 3/62
1964 Chevrolet Chevelle SS 283 3.08 220@4800 295@3200 8.5 16.6 no trap speed C&D 11/63
1964 Dodge 426 Hemi 426 n/a 425@6000 480@4600 n/a 11.40@125mph MCR no date
1964 Ford Fairlane Thunderbolt 427 427 n/a 425@6000 480@3700 n/a 11.76@122.78mph B.Leal at 1964 NHRA Nats
1964 Plymouth Belvedere 426 Wedge 426 3.91 365@4800 470@3200 6.8 15.2@96.5mph MT 1/64
1964 Pontiac GTO 389 3.23 325@4800 428@3200 6.9 15.0@91.5mph R&T 3/64
1964 Pontiac GTO Tri Power 389 3.23 348@4900 428@3600 5.7 14.1@104.2mph R&T 3/64
1965 Buick Grand Sport 401 3.36 325@4400 445@2800 6.8 14.92@95.13mph C&D 1966
1965 Buick Grand Sport 401 3.36 325@4400 445@2800 7.8 16.6@86mph MT 5/65
1965 Dodge Coronet 426 Street Wedge 426 3.55 365@4800 470@3200 7.9 15.4@89mph Car Life 5/65
1965 Dodge Coronet Hemi 426 3.54 425@5000 490@4000 5.3 13.8@104mph C&D no date
1965 Dodge Dart GT 273 3.23 235@5200 280@4000 8.2 16.9@87mph C&D 2/65
1965 Ford Mustang 289 Hi Po 289 4.11 271@6000 312@3400 7.5 15.7@89mph Sports Car Graphic 8/64
1965 Ford Mustang Shelby GT-350 289 3.89 306@6000 329@4200 6.5 14.9@95mph C&D 5/65
1965 Oldsmobile 4-4-2 330 3.23 310@5200 355@3600 7.8 15.5@84mph Car Life 5/65
1965 Plymouth Barracuda 273 3.23 180@4200 260@1600 9.1 17.5@88.5mph C&D 10/64
1965 Pontiac GTO Tri Power 389 4.11 360@5200 424@3600 5.8 14.5@100mph Car Life 5/65
1966 Buick Grand Sport 401 n/a 325@4400 445@2800 7.6 15.5@90.5mph MT 12/67
1966 Chevrolet Chevelle SS 396 396 3.65 360@5200 420@3600 6.0 14.66@99.88 mph C&D 3/66
1966 Chevrolet Chevelle SS 396 396 3.65 360@5600 420@3600 6.0 14.66@99.88mph C&D 3/96
1966 Chevrolet Nova SS L79 327 3.31 350@5800 360@3600 7.2 15.1@93 mph Car Life 1966
1966 Chevrolet Nova SS L79 327 3.31 350@5800 360@3600 7.2 15.1@93 mph Car Life 1966
1966 Ford Mustang Shelby GT-350 289 3.89 400@6000est n/a 6.2 14.0@92mph Car Life 7/66
1966 Nova SS L79 327 3 spd 3.73 350@5800 360@3600 7.2 15.1@93 mph Car Life 5/66
1966 Oldmobile 4-4-2 ( Tri Power setup) 400 n/a 360@5000 440@3600 n/a 15.16@95.56mph MT 6/66
1966 Oldmobile 4-4-2 ( Tri Power setup) 400 360@5000 440@3600 n/a 14.8@97mph Car Life 8/66
1966 Plymouth Barracuda 273 3.23 235@5200 280@4000 9.1 17.6@81mph C&D 6/66
1966 Pontiac GTO 389 3.08 335@5000 431@3200 6.8 15.4@92mph Car Life 5/66
1966 Pontiac GTO Tri Power 389 4 spd 3.55 360@5200 424@3600 n/a 13.97@102.47mph MCR Feb/Mar 1996
1966 Pontiac GTO Tri Power 389 n/a 360@5200 424@3600 7.0 14.10@98.4mph MCR 6/95
1966 Pontiac GTO Tri Power 389 3.55 360@5200 424@3600 6.5 14.05@105mph C&D 3/66
1967 Buick Grand Sport 400 3.36 340@5000 440@3200 6.6 15.2@95mph MT 4/67
1967 Camaro SS 350 3.31 295@4800 380@3200 7.8 16.1@86.5 mph C&D 11/66
1967 Chevrolet Camaro SS 350 3.31 295@4800 380@3200 7.8 16.1@86.5 mph C&D 11-66
1967 Chevrolet Camaro SS 396 396 4 spd 4.11 325@4800 410@3200 6.0 14.5@95mph MT 5/67
1967 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 302 3.70 290@5800 290@4200 6.7 14.9@97mph C&D 3/67
1967 Chevrolet Corvette 427 4spd 4.11 435@5800 460@4000 5.6 13.8@110.5mph MT 4/97
1967 Dodge Charger Hemi 426 3.23 425@5000 490@4000 6.4 14.16@96.15mph Car Life 2/67
1967 Dodge Coronet R/T 440 3.23 375@4600 480@3200 6.3 14.91@93.16mph Hot Rod no date
1967 Dodge Coronet R/T Hemi 426 3.23 425@5000 490@4000 6.8 15.0@96 mph MT 6/67
1967 Ford Failrlane 500 427 4 spd 4.11 425@6000 480@3700 n/a 14.0@102mph Hot Rod 7/66
1967 Mercury Cyclone GT (factory tweaked) 390 4.11 335@4800 427@3200 n/a 13.98@103.8mph C&D 3/66
1967 Oldsmobile 4-4-2 400 3.08 350@5000 440@3600 7.8 15.8@91mph C&D 12/6
1967 Plymouth Satellite Street Hemi 426 3.54 425@5000 490@4000 5.3 13.8@104mph C&D 4/66
1967 Plymouth Satellite Street Hemi 426 3.23 425@5000 490@4000 7.1 14.5@95mph Car Life 7/66
1967 Plymouth Barracuda 383 3.23 280@4200 400@2400 6.8 15.4@92mph C&D 4/67
1967 Plymouth GTX 440 3.23 375@4600 480@3200 6.0 14.4@98mph C&D 11/66
1967 Plymouth GTX Hemi 426 3.23 425@5000 490@4000 4.8 13.5@105mph C&D 11/66
1967 Ponitac Firebird 400 400 3.90 325@4800 410@3400 5.8 14.4@100mph C&D 3/67
1967 Pontiac GTO RA 400 auto 3.90 360@5400 438@3800 n/a 13.37@103.40mph MCR Feb/Mar 1996
1968 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 (2x4V) 302 4.10 290@5800 290@4400 5.5est 13.75@107mph Hi Perf Cars 1968,
1968 Chevrolet Chevelle SS 396 396 4 spd 3.55 375@5600 415@3600 n/a 13.60@105mph Pop Hot Rodding 6/68
1968 Chevrolet Nova SS 396 3.55 375@5600 415@3600 5.9 14.5@101.1 mph C&D 8/68
1968 Chevrolet Nova SS 396 396 3.55 375@5600 415@3600 5.9 14.5@101.1mph C&D 8/68
1968 Dodge Charger 440 n/a 375@4600 480@3200 7.2 14.4@98mph Hot Rod 10/67
1968 Dodge Charger R/T Hemi 426 3.91 425@5000 490@4000 6.0 13.54@101mph MCR no date
1968 Dodge Coronet R/T 440 n/a 375@4600 480@3200 6.0 13.86@98.36mph MCR no date
1968 Dodge Coronet R/T (Convertible) 440 3.23 375@4600 480@3200 6.6 14.69@97.4 mph Car Life 4/68
1968 Dodge Dart GTS 340 3.91 275@5000 340@3200 6.0 14.4@99mph C&D 9/68
1968 Dodge Dart GTS 340 3.23 275@5000 340@3200 6.3 14.68@96.2mph Car Life 9/68
1968 Firebird 400 RA II 400 auto 4.11 340@4800 445@2900 n/a 12.87@109.48 mph MCR Feb/Mar 1996
1968 Ford Mustang 428 CJ 428 4 spd 3.70 335@5200 440@3400 n/a 13.16@108.14mph MCR Feb/Mar 1996
1968 Ford Mustang 428 CJ 428 n/a 335@5200 440@3400 n/a 13.56@106.6mph Hot Rod 3/68
1968 Ford Mustang Shelby GT-500KR 428 3.50 335@5200 440@3400 6.9 14.57@99.55mph Car Life 10/68
1968 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500KR CJ 428 auto 3.00 335@5200 440@3400 n/a 14.86@93.87mph MCR 12/95
1968 Oldsmobile 4-4-2 W-30 400 3.91 360@5400 440@3200 6.3est 13.33@103.56mph Car Craft no date
1968 Plymouth GTX 440 3.23 375@4600 480@3200 6.8 14.6@95.6mph Car Life 2/68
1968 Plymouth GTX Hemi Convertible 426 3.23 425@5000 490@4000 6.3 14.0@96.5mph Car Life 2/68
1968 Plymouth GTX Hemi Convertible(Slicks) 426 4.56 425@5000 490@4000 n/a 13.44@104.89mph Car Life 2/68
1968 Plymouth GTX Hemi Convertible(Slicks) 426 4.30 425@5000 490@4000 n/a 13.97@99.77mph Car Life 2/68
1968 Pontiac GTO RA II 400 n/a 366@5400 450@3800 7.4 14.19@98 mph MCR 6/95
1968 Pontiac GTO Ram Air II 400 4.33 360@5400 445@3800 6.5 14.45@98.2mph MT 2/68
1969 AMC AMX 390 N/A 3.15 315@4600 425@3200 6.6 14.8@95mph C&D 3/68
1969 AMC AMX 390 4 spd 3.54 315@4600 425@3200 6.9 14.40@91 mph Hi Performance Ann 1969
1969 AMC SC/Rambler 390 3.54 315@4600 425@3200 6.3 14.7@96.3mph C&D 5/69
1969 AMC SC/Rambler 390 n/a 315@4600 425@3200 6.3 14.2@100.8mph Car Life 5/69
1969 Buick Grand Sport 400 2.93 340@5000 350@4800 7.7 15.9@89 mph MT 1/69
1969 Chevrolet Camaro ZL-1 427 n/a 425@5600 460@4600 5.2 12.76@107 mph MCR 1987
1969 Chevrolet Camaro ZL-1 427 n/a 425@5600 460@4400 5.2est 12.76@107mph MCR 1987 Annual
1969 Chevrolet Camaro ZL-1 427 n/a 425@5600 460@4400 n/a 13.16@100.21mph Hi Perf Cars 8/69
1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS 396 4 spd 3.73 375@5600 415@3600 n/a 14.19@103.81mph MCR Feb/Mar 1996
1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS 396 n/a 375@5600 415@3600 n/a 14.77@98.72 mph Car Life 5/69
1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS 396 4.88 375@5600 415@3600 n/a 13.00@108.6mph Supercar Annual 1969
1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS 396 396 4 spd 3.73 375@5600 415@3600 n/a 14.23@97.28mph MCR 12/97
1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS Pace Car 350 auto 3.31 300@4800 380@3200 8.0est 16.0@88mph est MT 7/96
1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 302 4 spd 4.10 290@5800 290@4200 7.4 15.1@95mph R&T 12/91
1969 Chevrolet Camaro ZL-1 427 n/a 425@5600 460@4600 n/a 13.16@110.21mph Hi Perf Cars 8/69
1969 Chevrolet Chevelle SS 396 396 3.55 325@4800 410@3200 5.8 14.41@97.35 mph C&D 1-69
1969 Chevrolet Nova SS 396 3.55 375@5600 415@3600 5.8 13.87@105.14 mph Hot Rod 7/69
1969 Chevrolet Nova SS 396 396 3.55 375@5600 415@3600 5.8est 13.87@105.14mph Hot Rod 7/69
1969 Dodge Charger 500 Hemi 426 3.55 375@4600 480@3200 5.7 13.68@104.8mph Car Life 4/69
1969 Dodge Charger 500 Hemi 426 3.23 375@4600 480@3200 5.7 13.92@104.5mph Car Life 4/69
1969 Dodge Charger 500 Hemi 426 4 spd 4.10 375@4600 480@3200 n/a 13.48@109 mph Hot Rod 2/69
1969 Dodge Charger 500 Hemi 426 Auto 3.23 375@4600 480@3200 n/a 13.80@105.01mph Hot Rod 2/69
1969 Dodge Charger Daytona 440 n/a 375@4600 480@3200 n/a 14.48@96.15mph Road Test 12/69
1969 Dodge Charger Daytona Hemi 426 3.54 425@5000 490@4000 6.0 13.9@101mph C&D 12/69
1969 Dodge Super Bee 383 3.55 335@5200 425@3400 5.6 14.04@99.55mph C&D 1/69
1969 Dodge Super Bee Six-Pack 440 4.10 390@4700 490@3600 6.3 13.8@104.2mph Car Life no date
1969 Ford Cobra 428 CJ 428 auto 3.91 335@5200 440@3400 n/a 13.86@101.03mph MCR 12/97
1969 Ford Fairlane Cobra 428 428 3.50 335@5200 440@3400 5.6 14.04@100.61mph C&D 1/69
1969 Ford Fairlane Cobra 428 428 3.50 335@5200 440@3400 7.3 14.9@95.2mph Car Life 1/69
1969 Ford Mustang Boss 302 302 4 spd 3.91 290@5800 290@4300 6.9 14.9@96mph R&T 12/91
1969 Ford Mustang Boss 429 429 3.91 375@5200 450@3400 7.1 14.09@102.85mph Car Life 7/69
1969 Ford Mustang Boss 429 429 3.91 375@5200 450@3400 n/a 13.34@107.5mph Hi Perf Cars 9/69
1969 Ford Mustang GT 500 428 4 spd n/a 335@5400 440@3400 n/a 15.51@90.36mph Musclecars 5/95
1969 Ford Mustang Mach I 428 CJ 428 auto 3.91 335@5200 440@3400 n/a 13.90@103.32 Car Life 3/69
1969 Ford Mustang Mach I 428 CJ 428 n/a 335@5200 440@3400 n/a 13.73@102.31 mph Car Craft 8/69
1969 Ford Mustang Shelby GT-350 351 2.75 290@4800 385@3200 8.0 15.59@89.09mph Car Life 2/69
1969 Ford Mustang Shelby GT-500 428CJ 428 3.91 335@5200 440@3400 5.5 13.9@103.32mph Car Life 3/69
1969 Ford Torino Talladega 428 428 3.50 335@5200 440@3200 6.8 14.2@101mph Special Interest Auto 2/86
1969 Mercury Cougar 428 CJ 428 auto 4.30 335@5200 440@3400 n/a 13.76@102.09mph MCR Feb/Mar 1996
1969 Mercury Cyclone 428 CJ 428 3.91 335@5200 440@3400 5.5 13.94@100.89mph C&D 1/69
1969 Mercury Cyclone 428 CJ 428 4.11 335@5200 440@3400 6.1 13.86@101.69mph MT 8/69
1969 Mercury Marauder X-100 429 3.25 360@4600 480@2800 7.8 16.0@86mph C&D 12/68
1969 Mercury Marauder X-100 429 2.80 360@4600 480@2800 7.5 15.17@92.3mph Car Life 4/69
1969 Oldsmobile Hurst 455 3.90 380@5000 500@3200 5.9 13.98@101.28mph MT 6/69
1969 Oldsmobile Hurst 455 n/a 380@5000 500@3200 n/a 13.80@102.27mph Pop Hot Rodding 8/69
1969 Plymouth Barracuda 440 3.55 375@4600 480@3200 5.6 14.01@103.81mph Car Life 6/69
1969 Plymouth Roadrunner 440 six pack 440 4.10 375@4700 490@3600 n/a 13.09@111mph Super Stock 6/69
1969 Plymouth Roadrunner Hemi 426 n/a 425@5000 490@4000 n/a 13.54@105.1mph C&D 1/69
1969 Plymouth Roadrunner Hemi 426 n/a 425@5000 490@4000 n/a 13.38@108mph Super Stock 1/69
1969 Plymouth Roadrunner Hemi 426 n/a 425@5000 490@4000 n/a 13.52@106mph Super Car Annual 1969
1969 Plymouth Roadrunner Hemi 426 n/a 425@5000 490@4000 n/a 13.32@107.7mph Rodder & Super Stk 5/69
1969 Plymouth Roadrunner Hemi 426 n/a 425@5000 490@4000 n/a 13.56@105.4mph MT 2/69
1969 Plymouth Roadrunner Hemi 426 n/a 425@5000 490@4000 n/a 13.35@107.4mph Car Craft 1/69
1969 Plymouth Super Bee Six Pack 440 auto 4.10 390@4700 490@3200 n/a 13.46@103.02 mph MCR Feb/Mar 1996
1969 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 400 3.55 335@5000 430@3600 6.5 14.3@101.7mph Sports Car Graphic 4/69
1969 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am RA IV 400 3.90 345@5400 430@3700 5.6est 14.10@100.78mph Hot Rod 1969
1969 Pontiac GTO Judge RA IV 400 3.90 370@4600 445@3900 5.7 13.20@104mph MCR no date
1969 Pontiac GTO Judge RA IV 400 3.55 370@4600 445@3900 6.2 14.45@97.8mph Car Life 3/69
1969 Pontiac GTO Judge RA IV 400 3.90 370@5500 445@3900 6.6 13.90@101.50mph MCR 6/95
1969 Pontiac GTO RA III 400 n/a 366@5100 445@3600 7.4 14.10@98.2mph MCR 6/95
1969 Pontiac Trans Am RA IV 400 3.90 345@5400 430@3700 n/a 14.10@100.78mph Hot Rod 3/69
1969 Pontiac Trans Am RA IV 400 3.90 345@5400 430@3700 n/a 14.6@99.2mph Road Test 7/69
1969 Pontiac Trans Am RA IV 400 3.90 345@5400 430@3700 n/a 14.17 no time Car Life 4/69
1969 Pontiac Trans Am RA IV 400 3.90 345@5400 430@3700 n/a 14.2@99mph C&D 2/93
1970 AMC AMX 390 3.54 325@5000 420@3000 6.6 14.68@92mph MT 12/69
1970 AMC Rebel Machine 390 3.91 340@5100 430@3600 7.0 14.57@92.77mph Road Test 5/70
1970 AMC Rebel Machine 390 n/a 340@5100 430@3600 6.4 14.4@99mph MT 11/69
1970 Buick Grand Sport(Stg 1) 455 3.64 360@4600 510@2800 5.5 13.38@105.5mph MT 1/70
1970 Buick Grand Stage I 455 4 spd 3.64 360@4600 510@2800 n/a 14.23@95.26mph MCR 12/95
1970 Buick GSX 455 n/a 360@4600 510@2800 n/a 13.66@100.2mph Car Craft 7/70
1970 Buick GSX 455 360@4600 510@2800 n/a 14.0@103mph Hi Perf Cars 10/70
1970 Buick GSX Stage 1 455 3.64 360@4800 510@2800 6.2 14.0@103mph Hi Perf Cars 10/70
1970 Chervolet Chevelle SS LS6 454 4 spd 4.10 450@5600 500@3600 n/a 13.25@107.04mph MCR Feb/Mar 1996
1970 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 (LT1) 350 4.10 360@6000 380@4500 5.8 14.2@100.3mph C&D 5/70
1970 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 LT1 350 4 spd 3.73 360@6000 380@4000 7.0 14.81@98.04mph Car Craft 5/94
1970 Chevrolet Chevelle LS6 454 n/a 450@5600 500@3600 n/a 13.20@106mph Super Stock 5/70
1970 Chevrolet Chevelle SS LS5 454 3.31 360@4400 500@3200 6.0 14.20@100 mph MCR no date
1970 Chevrolet Chevelle SS LS6 454 n/a 450@5600 500@3600 5.5 13.75@98.46 mph MCR no date
1970 Chevrolet Chevelle SS LS6 454 4 spd 4.10 450@5600 500@3600 n/a 13.98@100.27mph MCR 12/95
1970 Chevrolet Nova COPO 350 4 spd 4.10 360@6000 380@4000 n/a 13.52@102.13mph MCR Feb/Mar 1996
1970 Dodge Challenger Hemi 426 4 spd 3.54 425@500 490@4000 n/a 13.94@104.57mph Musclecars 5/95
1970 Dodge Challenger Hemi SE 426 4 spd 4.10 425@5000 490@4000 6.3 13.1@107.12mph Car Craft 11/69
1970 Dodge Challenger R/T Six-Pack 440 3.23 390@4700 490@3200 6.0 13.62@104mph Car Craft 11/69
1970 Dodge Challenger T/A 340 3.55 290@5000 340@3200 5.8 14.3@99mph MCR no date
1970 Ford Mustang Boss 302 302 3.91 290@5800 290@4300 6.5 14.85@96.15mph Car Life 9/69
1970 Ford Mustang Boss 302 302 3.91 290@5800 290@4300 8.1 15.8@90mph MT 4/70
1970 Ford Mustang Boss 429 429 4 spd 3.91 375@5200 450@3400 n/a 14.45@99mph Autodriver 2/70
1970 Ford Mustang Boss 429 429 4 spd 3.91 375@5200 450@3400 n/a 14.09@102.85mph Car Life 7/69
1970 Ford Mustang Boss 429 429 4 spd 3.91 375@5200 450@3400 n/a 13.64@104.65mph Super Stock 6/69
1970 Mercury Cougar Eliminator 302 4.30 290@5800 290@4300 7.6 15.8@90mph Car Life 4/70
1970 Mercury Cougar Eliminator 302 3.91 290@5800 290@4300 n/a 14.84@96.16 Road Test 9/69
1970 Oldsmobile 4-4-2 W-30 455 auto 3.91 370@5200 500@3600 n/a 14.17@95.37mph MCR 12/95
1970 Oldsmobile F-85 W-31 350 auto 3.91 325@5400 360@3600 n/a 14.62@96.1mph Hot Rod 4/70
1970 Plymouth Barracuda 440 Six Pack 440 3.55 390@4700 490@3200 5.9 14.04@100mph MT 5/70
1970 Plymouth Barracuda 440 six pack 440 auto 4.10 390@4700 490@3200 n/a 13.00@105.74mph MCR 12/97
1970 Plymouth Barracuda AAR 340 3.55 290@5000 340@3200 n/a 14.50@98.68mph Car Life 7/70
1970 Plymouth Barracuda AAR 340 3.55 290@5000 340@3200 5.8 14.3@99.5mph C&D 7/70
1970 Plymouth Barracuda Hemi 426 4.10 425@5000 490@4000 6.9 13.70@101.2mph MT 9/69
1970 Plymouth Barracuda Hemi 426 4 spd 3.54 425@5000 490@4000 n/a 13.10@107mph Car Craft 1970
1970 Plymouth Barracuda Hemi 426 n/a 425@5000 490@4000 n/a 13.10@107.12mph Car Craft 11/69
1970 Plymouth Duster 340 340 3.23 275@5000 340@3200 6.2 14.72@92.24mph Car Life 3/70
1970 Plymouth Roadrunner Superbird 440 n/a 375@4600 480@3200 n/a 14.26@103.7mph Road Test 4/70
1970 Plymouth Roadrunner Superbird Hemi 426 3.23 425@5000 490@4000 4.8 13.5@105mph C&D 1970
1970 Pontiac Firebird Formula 400 400 3.07 330@4800 430@3000 6.4 14.7@98.9mph C&D 6/70
1970 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am RA IV 400 3.73 345@5400 430@3700 5.7 14.1@103.2mph C&D 6/70
1970 Pontiac Grand Prix SJ 455 4 spd 3.31 370@4600 500@3100 n/a 14.19@101.29 mph High Performance Cars ND
1970 Pontiac GTO 455 auto 3.55 360@4300 500@2700 n/a 13.53@103.51mph MCR Feb/Mar 1996
1970 Pontiac GTO RAIV 400 auto 3.90 370@5500 445@3900 n/a 13.59@102.89mph MCR 12/97
1970 Pontiac GTO 455 HO 455 3.31 360@4300 500@3000 6.6 15.0@96.5mph C&D 1/70
1970 Pontiac GTO Judge RA IV 400 auto 3.90 370@4600 500@3100 n/a 13.60@105.04mph MCR Feb/Mar 1996
1970 Pontiac Trans Am RA III 400 4 spd 3.55 345@5000 430@3400 n/a 14.68@97.17mph MCR 12/95
1971 AMC Hornet SC/360 360 3.54 245@4400 365@2600 6.5 14.91@95.33mph MCR 1987 Annual
1971 AMC Hornet SC/360 360 3.54 245@4400 365@2600 6.7 15.0@94.mph MT 1/71
1971 AMC Javelin AMX 401 n/a 330@5000 430@4400 n/a 14.65@92.97mph MCR 1987 Annual
1971 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 350 4 spd 3.73 330@5600 3600@4000 n/a 14.80@ 96.35 mph Pop Hot Rodding 8/71
1971 Chevrolet Corvette LS6 454 4 spd 3.36 425@5600 475@4000 6.5 13.72@102.04mph Car Craft 8/71
1971 Dodge Charger Hemi 426 4.10 425@5000 490@4000 5.8 13.73@104mph MCR no date
1971 Dodge Demon 340 340 n/a 275@5000 340@3200 7.8 14.56@96 mph Road Test 4/71
1971 Ford Mustang Boss 351 Clevelend 351 3.91 330@5400 370@4000

1971 Plymouth GTX 440 3.23 370@4600 480@3200 6.5 14.9@95.4mph C&D 11/70
1971 Plymouth Roadrunner 383 3.91 300@4800 410@3400 6.7 14.84@94.5mph MT 2/71
1971 Plymouth Roadrunner 440 4.10 385@4700 490@3200 6.7 15.02@96mph MT 2/71
1971 Pontiac GTO 455 HO 455 3.90 335@4800 480@3600 6.6 13.97@100mph MCR 6/95
1972 Buick Grand Sport(Stg 1) 455 4.30 275@4400 395@2600 5.8 14.10@97mph MT 6/72
1972 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 455 3.42 300@4000 415@3200 5.4 13.90@104.6mph C&D 1972
1973 AMC Javelin AMX 401 3.54 255@4600 345@3300 7.7 15.5@90mph MT 7/73
1973 Buick Grand Sport (Stg 1) 455 3.42 270@4400 390@3000 7.4 15.3@90mph MT 7/73
1973 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am SD 455 3.42 290@4000 395@3200 n/a 13.54@104.3mph Hot Rod 6/73
1989 Chevrolet Corvette Callaway TT 350 3.54 382@4250 562@2500 4.4 12.9@111mph C&D 5/89
1989 Ford Mustang Saleen SC 302 3.55 292@5200 327@3500 5.9 14.2@98mph C&D 5/89
1990 Chevrolet Camaro IROC Z28 1LE 305 5 spd 3.42 230@4400 300@3200 6.3 14.8@95.4mph MT 6/90
1990 Chevrolet Camaro IROC Z28 1LE 350 AOD 3.23 245@4400 345@3200 6.1 14.8@96mph MT 6/90
1991 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am Firefox 350 3.91 328@4500 395@3500 5.2 13.5@103.2mph MT 12/91
1991 Pontiac SLP Firehawk 350 3.54 350@5500 390@4400 4.9 13.4@105.2mph MT 12/91
1992 Chevolet Camaro Z28 305 5 spd 3.42 230@4400 300@3200 6.9 15.2@92 mph R&T 12/91
1992 Ford Mustang LX 302 5 spd 2.73 225@4200 300@3200 7.1 15.5@90mph R&T 12/91
1993 Chevrolet Camaro Paxton GSS 350 6 spd 3.73 414@5800est n/a 5.1 13.2@111mph MT 12/94
1993 Chevrolet Camaro Paxton GSS 350 6 spd 3.73 414@5800est n/a n/a 13.08@111.84mph Car Craft 8/94
1993 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Callaway C8 383 6 spd 3.23 404@5750 412@4500 4.6 13.2@106.4mph MT 3/94
1993 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Callaway C8 383 6 spd 3.23 404@5750 412@4500 5.1 13.3@109mph C&D 3/97
1993 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Morrision 350 6 spd 3.73 375 est n/a n/a 13.0@109.3mph MT 2/94
1993 Dodoge Viper RT/10 400 6 spd 3.07 400@4600 462@3300 4.5 13.2@112.1mph MT 8/93
1993 Ford Mustang Cobra 302 5 spd 3.08 235@5000 285@4000 6.0 14.6@96.5 mph MT 6/93
1993 Ford Mustang Cobra 302 5 spd 3.08 245@5000 290@4000 n/a 14.31@96.64mph MCR 12/97
1993 Ford Mustang GT 302 AOD 2.73 205@4200 275@3000 8.0 16.1@85.1mph MT 5/93
1993 Pontiac Firebird Formula 350 6 spd 3.23 275@5000 325@2400 6.3 14.6@98.8mph MT 4/93
1993 Pontiac Firebird Formula 350 6 spd 3.23 275@5000 325@2400 6.1 14.7@97.2mph MT 6/93
1993 Pontiac Firebird Formula 350 6 spd 3.23 275@5000 325@2400 n/a 13.69@101.87mph HPP 4/94
1993 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 350 6 spd 3.23 275@5000 325@2400 6.3 14.8@98.6mph MT 1/93
1993 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 350 n/a 3.23 275@5000 325@2400 5.0 14.10@98.45mph Car Craft 3/93
1993 Pontiac SLP Firehawk 350 6 spd 3.23 300@5000 330@2000 4.9 13.5@103.5mph MT 7/93
1993 Pontiac SLP Firehawk 350 6 spd 3.23 300@5000 330@2000 4.9 13.53@103.5mph Car Craft 7/93
1994 Chevrolet Camaro Hennessey RS330 350 6 spd 3.73 355@5500est n/a 5.6 13.8@106.8mph MT 12/94
1994 Chevrolet Camaro LG Motorsports ZR28 350 6 spd 3.42 335@5800est n/a 5.4 14.0@100mph MT 12/94
1994 Chevrolet Camaro Rippie DRM 400 383 6 spd 3.73 417@5500est n/a 4.9 13.4@109.7mph MT 12/94
1994 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 350 6 spd 3.23 275@5000 325@2400 n/a 14.01@100mph Pop Hot Rodding 3/94
1994 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 350 6 spd 3.42 275@5000 325@2400 5.6 14.10@98.83mph Car Craft 5/94
1994 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 (Convertible) 350 AOD 2.73 275@5000 325@2400 n/a 14.36@91mph Pop Hot Rodding 7/94
1994 Ford Mustang GT 302 5 spd 3.08 215@4200 285@3400 n/a 14.87@95mph Pop Hot Rodding 3/94
1994 Ford Mustang GT (Convertible) 302 AOD n/a 215@4200 285@3400 n/a 15.96@87mph Pop Hot Rodding 7/94
1994 Pontaic Firebird Formula 350 AOD 3.23 275@5000 325@2400 5.9 14.14@97.01mph Car Craft 7/95
1994 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 350 AOD 2.73 275@5000 325@2400 n/a 13.93@99.60mph HPP 4/94
1994 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 25th (Conv) 350 AOD 2.73 275@5000 325@2400 n/a 14.32@95mph Pop Hot Rodding 7/94
1994 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 25th Vortech 350 6 spd 3.42 391@5000est n/a 5.1 13.5@107.4mph MT 12/94
1994 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 25th Vortech 350 6 spd 3.42 391@5500 n/a 5.1 13.52@107.43mph Car Craft 7/95
1994 Pontiac SLP Firehawk 350 6 spd 3.42 315@5000 342@2400 5.3 13.9@102.1 mph MT 3/94
1994 Pontiac SLP Firehawk 350 6 spd 3.42 300@5000 330@2000 4.9 13.53@103.5mph MCR Oct/Nov 94
1994 Pontiac SLP Firehawk 350 6 spd 3.42 315@5000 342@2400 n/a 13.95@104.1mph HPP 4/94
1994 Pontiac SLP Firehawk 350 6 spd 3.42 315@5000 342@2400 5.3 13.9@102.1MPH MT 3/94
1995 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 350 3.42 275@5000 325@2000 n/a 14.11@98.07mph MCR 8/95
1995 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 350 6 spd 3.42 275@5000 325@2000 6.4 14.9@93.6mph R&T 6/95
1995 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Vortech 350 6 spd 3.42 400@5000 462@5000 5.2 13.6@110.2mph R&T 6/95
1995 Chevrolet Camaro ZL-1 572 5 spd 4.11 725@6500 710@3500 4.4 12.5@127.7mph MT 8/96
1995 Chevrolet Corvette Lingenfelter 383 383 6 spd 3.92 470@5800 463@4800 3.9 12.0@122.9mph MT 3/96
1995 Chevrolet Corvette Rippie DRM 600 ZR-1 385 6 spd 4.09 550@6500 480@5000 4.4 12.7@115.3mph R&T 6/95
1995 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 350 6 spd 3.45 405@5800 385@5200 5.2 13.6@105.7mph R&T 6/95
1995 Chevrolet Impala SS Moss Big Block 572 AOD 3.73 546@5500 612@4000 4.9 13.0@112.4mph MT 8/96
1995 Chevrolet Impala SS Moss special 350 6 spd 4.10 308@5700 334@4000 6.6 14.5@95mph MT 8/96
1995 Dodge Viper Hennessey 550 488 6 spd 3.54 550@600 550@4500 4.1 12.5@114.1mph R&T 6/95
1995 Dodge Viper RT/10 488 6 spd 3.07 400@4600 450@3600 4.5 12.8@114.5mph R&T 6/95
1995 Ford Mustang Cobra R 351 3.27 300@4800 365@3750 n/a 13.67@102.82mph MCR 8/95
1995 Ford Mustang GT 302 5 spd 3.08 215@4200 285@3400 7.4 15.8@88.2mph R&T 6/95
1995 Ford Mustang Saleen S351 351 5 spd 3.27 480@5500 487@3600 4.9 13.2@111.9mph R&T 6/95
1995 Monte Carlo SS Moss special 406 6 spd 3.45 467@6000 458@3500 4.4 12.9@114.4mph MT 8/96
1995 Pontiac Formula Lingenfelter 383 383 6 spd 3.42 440@6000 430@4500 5.1 13.3@113.1mph MT 12/94
1995 Pontiac Formula Lingenfelter 383 383 6 spd 3.23 440@6000 430@4500 4.5 12.7@114.7mph R&T 6/95
1995 Pontiac Formula Lingenfelter 383 383 6 spd 3.23 440@6000 430@4500 4.5 12.6@114mph C&D 3/97
1995 Pontiac Formula Lingenfelter 383 383 6 spd 3.42 440@5500 430@4500 5.1 13.32@113.14mph Car Craft 12/95
1995 Pontiac Trans Am 350 AOD 3.23 275@5000 325@2000 6.5 14.9@93.9mph R&T 6/95
1996 Ford Mustang Cobra Kenne Bell 280 5 spd 3.27 392@6300 371@5800 4.8 13.2@109.4mph MT 3/96
1996 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 350 6 spd 3.42 285@5200 325@2400 n/a 14.33@97.31mph MCR 12/97
1996 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Convertible 350 6 spd 3.42 285@5200 325@2400 5.9 14.2@99mph MT7/96
1996 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 JVS Hurricane 396 6 spd 3.42 450@5800est 450@4600est 4.5 13.1@113mph C&D 3/97
1996 Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport LT4 350 6 spd 3.45 330@5800 340@4500 5.2 13.56@103.76mph Car Craft 6/96
1996 Chevrolet Impala SS Callaway SN 383 AOD 3.23 404@5750 412@4500 5.9 14.0@100.3mph MT 5/96
1996 Chevrolet Impala SS Lingenfelter 383 AOD 3.42 425@5000 467@3500 4.7 12.9@104.6mph MT 9/96
1996 Chevrolet SLP Camaro SS 350 6 spd 3.42 310@5500 325@2400 n/a 13.46@106.48mph MCR Feb/Mar 1996
1996 Chevrolet SLP Camaro SS 350 6 spd 3.42 310@5500 325@2400 n/a 13.55@104.86mph Hot Rod 2/96
1996 Chevrolet SLP Camaro SS 350 6 spd 3.42 305@5500 325@2400 5.9 14.4@98mph R&T, Sports & GT Cars 96
1996 Chevrolet SLP Camaro SS 350 6 spd 3.42 305@5500 325@2400 4.9 13.6@106mph C&D 12/95
1996 Chevrolet SLP Camaro SS 350 6 spd 3.42 305@5500 325@2400 5.3 13.8@101.4mph MT 11/95
1996 Chevrolet SLP Camaro SS 350 6 spd 3.42 305@5500 335@2400 n/a 13.31@107mph High Tech 5/96
1996 Chevrolet SLP Camaro SS 350 6 spd 3.42 305@5500 325@2400 5.5 14.10@102mph Car Craft 10/95
1996 Dodge Viper Hennessey Venom 600 488 6 spd 3.54 635@5600 655@4900 3.8 11.8@124mph MT 3/96
1996 Dodge Viper RT/10 488 6 spd 3.07 415@5200 488@3600 4.4 13.11@113.2mph Car Craft 4/96
1996 Ford Mustang Cobra DOHC 280 5 spd 3.27 305@5800 300@4800 n/a 14.05@101.05mph Hot Rod 2/96
1996 Ford Mustang Cobra DOHC 280 5 spd 3.27 305@5800 300@4800 5.9 14.4@99.1mph R&T, Sports & GT Cars 96
1996 Ford Mustang Cobra DOHC 280 5 spd 3.27 305@5800 300@4800 6.4 14.0@102mph C&D 12/95
1996 Ford Mustang Cobra DOHC 280 5 spd 3.27 305@5800 300@4800 n/a 14.09@100mph High Tech 5/96
1996 Ford Mustang Cobra DOHC 280 5 spd 3.27 305@5800 300@4800 5.5 14.0@101.7mph Car Craft 10/95
1996 Ford Mustang Cobra DOHC Convetible 280 5 spd 3.27 305@5800 300@4800 5.6 13.9@102.1mph MT7/96
1996 Ford Mustang Cobra Jet R SVT special 373 5 spd 3.27 350@4750 385@3500 5.2 13.3@106.7mph MT 11/96
1996 Ford Mustang Saleen S281 280 5 spd 3.55 222@4400 285@3500 6.9 15.3@89.8mph MT 8/96
1996 Ford Mustang Saleen S351 R 351 5 spd 3.27 480@5500 487@3600 5.2 13.4@119.3mph MT 4/96
1996 Pontiac Firebird Formula RA WS6 350 6 spd 3.42 305@5400 335@3200 n/a 14.14@101.05mph Hot Rod 2/96
1996 Pontiac Firebird Formula RA WS6 350 6 spd 3.42 305@5400 335@3200 5.5 14.1@102mph C&D 12/95
1996 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am RA WS6 350 6 spd 3.42 305@5400 335@3200 5.4 14.0@100.5mph MT 11/95
1996 Pontiac SLP Firehawk 350 6 spd 3.42 315@5500 344@4000 5.3 13.9@103.6mph MT 5/96
1997 Chevrolet Corvette LS1 346 6 spd 3.42 345@5600 350@4400 4.7 13.36@109.4mph Car Craft 2/97
1997 Chevrolet Corvette LS1 346 6 spd 3.42 345@5600 350@4400 4.8 13.2@109.6mph MT 4/97
1997 Chevrolet SLP Camaro SS 350 6 spd 3.42 305@5500 325@2400 5.2 13.7@102.3mph Car Craft 1/97
1997 Chevrolet SLP Camaro SS LT4 350 6 spd 3.42 330@5800 340@4500 5.3 13.6@105mph C&D 3/97
1997 Chevrolet SLP Camaro SS LT4 30th Ann 350 6 spd 3.42 330@5800 340@4500 5.0 13.7@105mph Hot Rod 3/97
1997 Chevrolet SLP Camaro SS LT4 30th Ann 350 6 spd 3.42 330@5800 340@4500 4.9est 13.25@107mph Car Craft 3/97
1997 Dodge Viper GTS 488 6 spd 3.07 450@5200 490@3700 n/a 12.07@115.20mph MCR 12/97
1997 Dodge Viper GTS 488 6 spd 3.07 450@5200 490@3700 4.2 12.7@111mph MT 5/96
1997 Dodge Viper RT/10 488 6 spd 3.07 450@520 490@3700 4.1 12.3@117.19mph MT 9/97
1997 Ford Mustang Cobra DOHC 280 5 spd 3.27 305@5800 300@4800 5.5 14.0@101.07mph MT 9/97
1997 Ford Mustang Cobra Kenny Brown C4S 280 5 spd 3.73 425hp est n/a 4.5 12.9@109.8mph MT 9/97
1997 Pontiac Firebird Formula RA WS6 350 6 spd 3.42 305@5400 335@3200 n/a 14.03@99.43mph MCR 12/97
1997 Pontiac SLP Firehawk 350 6 spd 3.42 310@5500 325@2400 5.5 14.0@100mph Hot Rod 3/97
1998 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am LS1 346 6 spd 3.42 305@5200 335@4000 5.1 13.4@107.3mph MT 9/97





[Modified by mountainmotor, 5:31 AM 2/26/2002]

jimduchek

One thing to remember about 1320 times from old mags -- tires. I've seen articles where they take a perfectly restored old muscle car, run it on vintage repro rubber, and then put on tires that it would come with today (not slicks, not DOT-slicks, but good tires, that might come factory or be a minor upgrade today) and it would often drop up to 1.5 seconds off the ET... Food for thought with those old times.

Jim

Square

Thanks for the list MountainMotor!

That was really cool!

I just want to add that those historic numbers include the tires of their day. Put any of those cars in a set of modern tires and all of their numbers will drop substantialy.

As a C5 owner I don't think the motors are significantly stronger than the classic Chevy's. Cleaner, yes... More fuel efficient, absolutely (though I know a lot of that is the new trannys). But if you put modern rubber and a frame setup on an old Vette so it can launch well, then I think the old motors are very competitive.

I have not read the other thread, but a Vette owner talking trash about any Vette is pretty sad. Personally I would like one of every year, plus some Ferrari's, Lambos, Porsche's, Pantera's...... You get the picture. :seeya

mountainmotor

Agree on the tires and also doubt old times were corrected.Most times in tests these days reflect corrected to sea level don't they?

Lt1er

I drove back in the real car days. All they were lacking was good tires and suspension. The real proof is NHRA Super Stock racing. They have very strick rules about how close to original the motor is. So they super tune the suspension and run slicks and lot's of those SS class cars are 9 & 10 second machines.

The 2002 Z-06 is great, but a modded C-3 could do the same.

MoMo

That list was awesome.
I agree the C5 is a wonderful car. It has taken the small block Chevy so far! But I agree that it's disturbing to have any generation Corvette owner trash other generations.

I mean, I even look at the 54's with the triple carbed straight six engines and think that was some mean ***** in its day.

Thanks guys. :cool:

70L46

:yesnod: All Corvettes have something to offer :yesnod:

Now lets get out there and kick some Ford azz :smash: :smash: :smash:

71stingraybigblock

People do not buy Harley's to have the fastest or highest performing bike on the street. It's called class, style. Not everyone has it.