Attn Ganey: Another Cam question
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Attn Ganey: Another Cam question
I'm being offered a Crower roller cam for a decent price. From what reading this looks like it would be a little rough (I'm not sure which to read, the 287/296 or the 229/237.
287/296 Adv, 229/237 @ 050, 331/344 lobe lift.
Factor in rocker arm ratio:
1.7 = 563/585 & 1.8 = 596/619
287/296 Adv, 229/237 @ 050, 331/344 lobe lift.
Factor in rocker arm ratio:
1.7 = 563/585 & 1.8 = 596/619
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Re: Attn Ganey: Another Cam question (Steve Straus)
Sounds like a nice little(used loosely) cam! Being a roller cam, you can run a more agressive lobe profile while still maintaining streetability. A know very little about roller cams but is it a hydraulic or solid roller cam (or can you use either type of roller lifter with a roller cam)?
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Re: Attn Ganey: Another Cam question (bence13_33)
I'm not sure if the cam determines what kind of roller lifter you have to use. I would assume since it's roller that you could use either, you would just have to use different pushrods, but I don't know for sure. It's a hydraulic roller setup.
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Re: Attn Ganey: Another Cam question (Ganey)
What's the LS & cam no.?
You would probably be better off w/ a new cam instead of used.
You would probably be better off w/ a new cam instead of used.
The cam is new, not used.
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Re: Attn Ganey: Another Cam question (Steve Straus)
The cam determines every thing just like in the flat tappet world. Solids are solids and hydraulics are hydraulics.
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Re: Attn Ganey: Another Cam question (mean8t)
The cam determines every thing just like in the flat tappet world. Solids are solids and hydraulics are hydraulics.
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Re: Attn Ganey: Another Cam question (Ganey)
I got this info from the seller:
Three numbers on the cam are
E16936
2296
6224
LSA is 118 degrees
Three numbers on the cam are
E16936
2296
6224
LSA is 118 degrees
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Re: Attn Ganey: Another Cam question (Steve Straus)
Steve'
I doubt the LSA is 118.Possibly 118 exhaust center line when installed.
My advice would be to hold off on a cam until you know what heads,compression,intake manifold,exhaust and CFM and style of carb you will be using.Gears and transmission as well.
If on a budjet cam and lifters can be bought from 80.00 to 110.00 and these do not require expensive springs and pushods to reduce deflection from the higher spring pressure.
I doubt the LSA is 118.Possibly 118 exhaust center line when installed.
My advice would be to hold off on a cam until you know what heads,compression,intake manifold,exhaust and CFM and style of carb you will be using.Gears and transmission as well.
If on a budjet cam and lifters can be bought from 80.00 to 110.00 and these do not require expensive springs and pushods to reduce deflection from the higher spring pressure.
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Re: Attn Ganey: Another Cam question (mountainmotor)
Steve'
I doubt the LSA is 118.Possibly 118 exhaust center line when installed.
My advice would be to hold off on a cam until you know what heads,compression,intake manifold,exhaust and CFM and style of carb you will be using.Gears and transmission as well.
If on a budjet cam and lifters can be bought from 80.00 to 110.00 and these do not require expensive springs and pushods to reduce deflection from the higher spring pressure.
I doubt the LSA is 118.Possibly 118 exhaust center line when installed.
My advice would be to hold off on a cam until you know what heads,compression,intake manifold,exhaust and CFM and style of carb you will be using.Gears and transmission as well.
If on a budjet cam and lifters can be bought from 80.00 to 110.00 and these do not require expensive springs and pushods to reduce deflection from the higher spring pressure.
Here's what I'm going to run:
9:1 compression pistons (gotta drive it on pump gas)
I'm going to start with a milled down edelbrock torker II, I know it's a single plane but I'll have to use it until I can find a dual plane that will fit under my BB hood.
Merlin Aluminum Oval port heads with 2.30 Intake valves".
Holley 800 CFM double pumper 415 with Mech. secondaries.
I'm going to keep my M-21 and 3.70 Rear. They are freshly rebuilt.
So esentially, I have held off on the cam, now is the time for me to pick it out. I've been reading up on them, but am still not an expert like some of the people on here.
Thanks
[Modified by Steve Straus, 12:42 PM 1/30/2002]
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Re: Attn Ganey: Another Cam question (Steve Straus)
Steve,
Learning is part of it and learning at anothers expense is a whole lot cheaper!
Good information concerning your parts-You have mail. :)
[Modified by mountainmotor, 12:19 PM 1/30/2002]
Learning is part of it and learning at anothers expense is a whole lot cheaper!
Good information concerning your parts-You have mail. :)
[Modified by mountainmotor, 12:19 PM 1/30/2002]
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Re: Attn Ganey: Another Cam question (Steve Straus)
That sounds like a decent cam for the motor you're building. I used to run something similar before EFI:
454. 9.5:1 CR. Edelbrock aluminum heads. Torker II + Holley 750. Cam hydraulic roller, 224/232. 573/585 lift. 114 LS. Made 390 rear wheel hp, 440 torque (490 flywheel hp, 550 flywheel torque).
You can run more than 9.0:1 with aluminum heads. 9.5 is safe. I tried 89 octane and it didn't ping.
454. 9.5:1 CR. Edelbrock aluminum heads. Torker II + Holley 750. Cam hydraulic roller, 224/232. 573/585 lift. 114 LS. Made 390 rear wheel hp, 440 torque (490 flywheel hp, 550 flywheel torque).
You can run more than 9.0:1 with aluminum heads. 9.5 is safe. I tried 89 octane and it didn't ping.
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Re: Attn Ganey: Another Cam question (Steve Straus)
The cam determines every thing just like in the flat tappet world. Solids are solids and hydraulics are hydraulics.
I understand that, but wouldn't a roller cam be the same for a solid or hydraulic roller lifters?
I understand that, but wouldn't a roller cam be the same for a solid or hydraulic roller lifters?
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Re: Attn Ganey: Another Cam question (mean8t)
The cam determines every thing just like in the flat tappet world. Solids are solids and hydraulics are hydraulics.
I understand that, but wouldn't a roller cam be the same for a solid or hydraulic roller lifters?
NO a solid roller cam will NOT work with hydraulic roller lifters, and vice versa.
I understand that, but wouldn't a roller cam be the same for a solid or hydraulic roller lifters?
NO a solid roller cam will NOT work with hydraulic roller lifters, and vice versa.
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Re: Attn Ganey: Another Cam question (Steve Straus)
Profiles are different, the solid rollers are much more aggressive profiles than the hydraulic counter parts. You will tear the cams up using the wrong lifters.
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Re: Attn Ganey: Another Cam question (mean8t)
Profiles are different, the solid rollers are much more aggressive profiles than the hydraulic counter parts. You will tear the cams up using the wrong lifters.
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Re: Attn Ganey: Another Cam question (Ganey)
http://www.crower.com/pdf/48.pdf
4th one down on the list, it's the only thing in Crowers line that matches the cam number's the seller gave me from above.
It says the Grind Lobe Center is 110 degrees, is that the same as the LSA? Is this thing streetable? I'm not building a race car, but I do want the engine to bump when it idles and I want gobs of power.
4th one down on the list, it's the only thing in Crowers line that matches the cam number's the seller gave me from above.
It says the Grind Lobe Center is 110 degrees, is that the same as the LSA? Is this thing streetable? I'm not building a race car, but I do want the engine to bump when it idles and I want gobs of power.