Bump-Stick Equivalent to an L-82
#1
Team Owner
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Bump-Stick Equivalent to an L-82
What aftermarket cam comes close to a 1979 L-82? I do not need speed and am quite content with about 14.9 in the 1/4 mile. I do need dependability and low-end torque.
#2
Burning Brakes
Re: Bump-Stick Equivalent to an L-82 (paul79)
Paul...the L-82 cam is probably one of the best all-around factory street cams ever. Its the same one that came in the L-46 350/350 motor. For a stock engine, I doubt you're going to get much better on the aftermarket even with the more recent improvements in design.
Here's the specs from http://www.spoperformanceparts.com/ ....
3896962 - Hydraulic Flat Tappet
This hydraulic flat tappet is used on the 68-81 L-46 and L-82 Corvette. The duration at lash point in degrees (intake/exhaust) is 312/312; duration at .050" tappet lift (intake/exhaust) is 222/222 and maximum lift with 1.5:1 rocker ratio (intake/exhaust) is 450/460. Valve lash is zero/zero and lobe centerline is 114 degrees.
If you must upgrade, a good choice would be the CompCams XE262H or 268H. Both have a little more duration & lift but are very strong on the bottom end & great street cams for stock or mild engines.
Mark
[Modified by mdsmith, 3:32 PM 1/21/2002]
Here's the specs from http://www.spoperformanceparts.com/ ....
3896962 - Hydraulic Flat Tappet
This hydraulic flat tappet is used on the 68-81 L-46 and L-82 Corvette. The duration at lash point in degrees (intake/exhaust) is 312/312; duration at .050" tappet lift (intake/exhaust) is 222/222 and maximum lift with 1.5:1 rocker ratio (intake/exhaust) is 450/460. Valve lash is zero/zero and lobe centerline is 114 degrees.
If you must upgrade, a good choice would be the CompCams XE262H or 268H. Both have a little more duration & lift but are very strong on the bottom end & great street cams for stock or mild engines.
Mark
[Modified by mdsmith, 3:32 PM 1/21/2002]
#4
Team Owner
Re: Bump-Stick Equivalent to an L-82 (paul79)
I'd use the Crane powerMax H-266-2 or it's bigger brother the H-272-2 Many years ago I went with the 272 in my L-82
http://www.cranecams.com
http://www.cranecams.com
#5
Le Mans Master
Re: Bump-Stick Equivalent to an L-82 (paul79)
Mark,
Do you know if the part is still available from GM?
Do you know if the part is still available from GM?
#7
Burning Brakes
Re: Bump-Stick Equivalent to an L-82 (paul79)
Mark,
Do you know if the part is still available from GM?
Do you know if the part is still available from GM?
Mark
[Modified by mdsmith, 3:33 PM 1/21/2002]
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Re: Bump-Stick Equivalent to an L-82 (paul79)
That's what I had in my car, I'm replacing it with a Comp XE262 this weekend. The Crane cam is their Blueprint Series, you can get them from Jegs, or Summit for about $90-95 dollars U.S., of course you need to get new lifters which will boost the price another $50 or so.
The cam doesn't have much low end, there are more modern cam designs that will give you more torque and not rob you too much on the top-in.
The cam doesn't have much low end, there are more modern cam designs that will give you more torque and not rob you too much on the top-in.
#9
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Re: Bump-Stick Equivalent to an L-82 (paul79)
What aftermarket cam comes close to a 1979 L-82? I do not need speed and am quite content with about 14.9 in the 1/4 mile. I do need dependability and low-end torque.
tom...
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Re: Bump-Stick Equivalent to an L-82 (Tom73)
Thanks, Tom. My cable access has been down again for several days. That makes about 20 in the last 30 days. I am trying to catch up on messages. I wish to stay with stock lifters and springs, etc. I assume the on-line folks at these companies know their stuff. The suggestion that Crane is now the sub-contract supplier to GM sounds like a good lead.
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Re: Bump-Stick Equivalent to an L-82 (mdsmith)
Mark I'm thinking of upgrading another 350 1977 vintage motor It only came with 145 Horse (I think). Hope I can say Monte Carlo here with out getting points off. Would Vortec heads firt this vintage 350? or can someone recomend something else? Thanks Jim
#16
Burning Brakes
Re: Bump-Stick Equivalent to an L-82 (paul79)
Mark,
I cannot seem to get into that site. What is a flat tappet?
I cannot seem to get into that site. What is a flat tappet?
http://www.spoperformanceparts.com/
Mark
[Modified by mdsmith, 3:34 PM 1/21/2002]
#17
Burning Brakes
Re: Bump-Stick Equivalent to an L-82 (jvm)
Mark I'm thinking of upgrading another 350 1977 vintage motor It only came with 145 Horse (I think). Hope I can say Monte Carlo here with out getting points off. Would Vortec heads firt this vintage 350? or can someone recomend something else? Thanks Jim
Mark
#18
Pro
Re: Bump-Stick Equivalent to an L-82 (mdsmith)
Paul, I have to agree with others on the comment that the old L82 is not a great performer when it comes to bottom end torque. Might be OK if your running a 4 speed and 3:55s or higher. I had this cam in a Camaro years ago but replaced it after 2 months - sluggish to 2500rpm. GM parts info even states the cam has "moderate torque".
It may be nice from a nostalgia point of view to have an old original grind, but better grinds now exist. The Comp Cam HE268 or the XE262 would be good choices. You may need new springs for the XE. I have no personal knowledge of the Crane cams, but I have heard good feedback.
Always a difficult decision when it comes to cams, so good luck.
Dino.
It may be nice from a nostalgia point of view to have an old original grind, but better grinds now exist. The Comp Cam HE268 or the XE262 would be good choices. You may need new springs for the XE. I have no personal knowledge of the Crane cams, but I have heard good feedback.
Always a difficult decision when it comes to cams, so good luck.
Dino.
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Re: Bump-Stick Equivalent to an L-82 (Dino_'72)
Dino,
Thanks for the reply. Yes, the L-82 cam does pick up the torque curve a little higher than the L-48 (for example): max 270 ft.lbs.@3600rpm vrs. 285@3200. I toyed with the idea of going to the L-48 cam....but I have a few more snowey months to explore this further. The TH350 can be annoying at times in the city as it shifts into third at about 30mph when driving moderately. Hence the need for torque (for my type of casual driving).
Thanks for the reply. Yes, the L-82 cam does pick up the torque curve a little higher than the L-48 (for example): max 270 ft.lbs.@3600rpm vrs. 285@3200. I toyed with the idea of going to the L-48 cam....but I have a few more snowey months to explore this further. The TH350 can be annoying at times in the city as it shifts into third at about 30mph when driving moderately. Hence the need for torque (for my type of casual driving).
#20
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Re: Bump-Stick Equivalent to an L-82 (paul79)
Paul I'm running a stock L48 right now. Yes lots of torque, but it runs out of power at about 4000 RPM. You may want to consider the HE260 cam, probably as much or more torque at low RPM than the L48 cam, and more HP at higher RPM. The L48 is a small cam, I think about 195 degrees duration at .050".
I rebuilt mine to stock specs in '90, because back then everyone said it had to be stock. Its a nice driver, but I have become bored with the feeble power output and exhaust sound. You have to remember that L48s were used in everything from pickups to station wagons.
I have purchased some 64cc heads and the XE268 cam. I hope to have it installed by May. Just don't have the time right now. I don't race or go fast, but it will be fun to have the old Vette sounding like it has some muscle when out for a Sunday cruise. My wife still doesn't understand this reasoning, but as they say, if I have to explain it to her, she still wouldn't understand.
Take your time. Just my .02 cents.
Dino :D
I rebuilt mine to stock specs in '90, because back then everyone said it had to be stock. Its a nice driver, but I have become bored with the feeble power output and exhaust sound. You have to remember that L48s were used in everything from pickups to station wagons.
I have purchased some 64cc heads and the XE268 cam. I hope to have it installed by May. Just don't have the time right now. I don't race or go fast, but it will be fun to have the old Vette sounding like it has some muscle when out for a Sunday cruise. My wife still doesn't understand this reasoning, but as they say, if I have to explain it to her, she still wouldn't understand.
Take your time. Just my .02 cents.
Dino :D