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Old 01-16-2002, 03:54 PM
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Default Any problems with jacking a C3 under the front crossmember?

I know this isn't an "approved" jacking point. I'd place jackstands in their correct locations once the car is airborne.
Old 01-16-2002, 03:56 PM
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Default Re: Any problems with jacking a C3 under the front crossmember? (Neo Fender)

I jack mine up there all the time if I want both wheels off the ground and I am not getting under it.


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Old 01-16-2002, 03:58 PM
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Default Re: Any problems with jacking a C3 under the front crossmember? (76 Red)

Put the jack under the front lip of the crossmember. If you jack it in the center, you'll dent it, sometimes rather severely. If you look under many C2 and C3 Corvettes, you'll see LOTS of dented, smashed crossmembers from improper jacking. Chuck
Old 01-16-2002, 04:01 PM
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Default Re: Any problems with jacking a C3 under the front crossmember? (Neo Fender)

The sheet metal on the bottom of the crossmember is rather thin, hence, not a recommended jack-point. Although, you'll not likely see a C3 that doesn't have a dented or caved-in crossmember which implies that nearly everyone -self included- jacks from there when stands need to go under both front frame rails. I do use a large wooden block to distribute the load so the thin sheetmetal isn't taking the full load. If I only need one side up, I'll generally jack the front and back side rails separately.
Old 01-16-2002, 04:03 PM
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Default Re: Any problems with jacking a C3 under the front crossmember? (Chuck Gongloff)

Yep, my crossmember is all dented, not by me, was that way when I got the car, but yes I jack at this point all the time, just to get it high enough to place the jack stands, because I NEVER leave the car in the air to work on, with just the hydraulic jack. I place a 2" x 4" piece of wood on the jack plate, then put it up to the cross member, won't dent anymore, and seems like it's less prone to slipping using the 2x4.
Old 01-16-2002, 04:12 PM
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Default Re: Any problems with jacking a C3 under the front crossmember? (Neo Fender)

I took a 1/8th inch thick piece of stainless, rolled it to match the front crossmember then welded it into place. I regularly jack the car in the center and wanted a strong dent free location. I also welded a big nut and made a screw in hook so I have a place to tow if need be. Took a little effort but it is there for life
Old 01-16-2002, 05:45 PM
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Default Re: Any problems with jacking a C3 under the front crossmember? (norvalwilhelm)

yah the problem is when u slide the stupid jack under there youll @#@# fark up the front spoiler!!!

that is if your front end it lowered 1 inch like mine!!

:mad :mad :cuss :cuss :cuss :cuss
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Default Re: Any problems with jacking a C3 under the front crossmember? (daily_driver)

I put a piece of 12"x12" piece of lumber atop the jack saddle before jacking under the front crossmember. Then I put one jack stand under each sway bar mount.
Old 01-16-2002, 08:22 PM
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Default Re: Any problems with jacking a C3 under the front crossmember? (1970 Stingray)

Yea, i put a peice of lumber on the jack also so it won't dent the crossmember. :yesnod: :cheers: :cool: ..........
Old 01-16-2002, 10:19 PM
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Default Re: Any problems with jacking a C3 under the front crossmember? (SevenT1Shark)

Ditto on using scrap wood (2X6) to distribute the weight, but my crossmember was alrealdy dented from the previous owner.
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Default Re: Any problems with jacking a C3 under the front crossmember? (Chuck Gongloff)

Put the jack under the front lip of the crossmember. If you jack it in the center, you'll dent it, sometimes rather severely. If you look under many C2 and C3 Corvettes, you'll see LOTS of dented, smashed crossmembers from improper jacking. Chuck
Any ideas on how to correct a bubbafied crossmember?
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Default Re: Any problems with jacking a C3 under the front crossmember? (SevenT1Shark)

Yea, i put a peice of lumber on the jack also so it won't dent the crossmember. :yesnod: :cheers: :cool: ..........
So, would you call that a "lumberjack "? :jester

sorry.... I have been diligently jacking mine up side by side at the approved jacking points.... I may just try the lumberjack method. MJ


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Default Re: Any problems with jacking a C3 under the front crossmember? (63Banshee)

Put the jack under the front lip of the crossmember. If you jack it in the center, you'll dent it, sometimes rather severely. If you look under many C2 and C3 Corvettes, you'll see LOTS of dented, smashed crossmembers from improper jacking. Chuck

Any ideas on how to correct a bubbafied crossmember?
I can't remember if there are any openings or not, but I think a slide hammer may do the trick.
Old 01-17-2002, 01:26 AM
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Default Re: Any problems with jacking a C3 under the front crossmember? (Neo Fender)

My car has a crushed frame in that area from previous persons jacking in that area... I tried it once and noticed the steering geomerty changing (as in mildly springing back a forth as I pumped the jack) so I wont do it again.
Old 01-17-2002, 01:19 PM
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Default Re: Any problems with jacking a C3 under the front crossmember? (Carl in LA)

Is it just me or do all of your cars, when jacked up from the side, lift the rear wheel off the ground too? I give just enough room in front to put my jackstands there and always notice the rear wheel coming off the ground a little bit too when I'm raising the front.
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Default Re: Any problems with jacking a C3 under the front crossmember? (Golden80)

Ok, so if you don't jack under the crossmember (I do), where do you jack from up front? I've tried it right behind the front wheel, but the entire car looks like it's going to fracture :eek: :eek:
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Default Re: Any problems with jacking a C3 under the front crossmember? (Golden80)

Is it just me or do all of your cars, when jacked up from the side, lift the rear wheel off the ground too? I give just enough room in front to put my jackstands there and always notice the rear wheel coming off the ground a little bit too when I'm raising the front.
Yep, my 78 and 82 both do that. I've wondered about jacking it
up using the crossmember. I'm glad to see this post.

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Default Re: Any problems with jacking a C3 under the front crossmember? (Flareside)

Golden80, (and Joe), If I want to put the car up on 4 stands I usually take advantage of what Golden80 was talking about. I place the jack just a little behind the front edge of the door, on the side. This is within the approved jacking area, but a little towards the back. Sure enough, both the front and the rear wheel come up off the ground as I jack up the side. I place 2 stands under the car, front and back, and go do the other side. If I do them one at a time I really feel like I am twisting the car like a pretzel. MJ
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Default Re: Any problems with jacking a C3 under the front crossmember? (norvalwilhelm)

I took a 1/8th inch thick piece of stainless, rolled it to match the front crossmember then welded it into place. I regularly jack the car in the center and wanted a strong dent free location. I also welded a big nut and made a screw in hook so I have a place to tow if need be. Took a little effort but it is there for life
The "screw in tow hook" is a fantastic idea!
Norval, will you email a picture of this to me?
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Default Re: Any problems with jacking a C3 under the front crossmember? (MIKER)

Good thread. Very informative. This will save me some time when I install my headers.....both sides at one.........a great idea and no twisting of the frame.


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