Exhaust Question
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Exhaust Question
Hi Gang,
I have a 79 Vette and it needs new mufflers. I want it to sound good but not too loud. Any Suggestion?
Thanks,
TeŽesa :seeya
I have a 79 Vette and it needs new mufflers. I want it to sound good but not too loud. Any Suggestion?
Thanks,
TeŽesa :seeya
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Re: Exhaust Question (Teresa)
Dynomax Super Turbos. They make them with the correct brackets and inlet/outlet configuration so they bolt right on. Mid-America sells them. They sound perfect to me. Only slightly louder than stock at idle, but nice sound when you step on it.
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Re: Exhaust Question (Teresa)
Teresa:
About $40 ;). Seriously, Flowmasters incorporate baffles into their muffler design. They have different types of baffling for each of their mufflers. Some will tone down your exhaust noise whereas others will increase the exhaust note. I've never really cared for the sound of Flowmasters, but quite a few members on the board run them. Maybe they can give you some advice if you choose to go with Flowmasters.
What's the difference between "Dynomax Super Turbo" and "Flowmasters"?
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Re: Exhaust Question (Teresa)
Im running the dynomax super turbos.... Not loud at all...Quiet at idle and sound louder than stock mufflers when you step on them....... :cheers:
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Re: Exhaust Question (Teresa)
Donning flameproof suit...
The difference is that Super Turbos sound good while flowmasters sound like exhaust coming through a tin can with loose lids rattling around inside.
Just my admittedly not-very-humble opinion on this religious issue.
The difference is that Super Turbos sound good while flowmasters sound like exhaust coming through a tin can with loose lids rattling around inside.
Just my admittedly not-very-humble opinion on this religious issue.
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Re: Exhaust Question (L79vette)
Donning flameproof suit...
The difference is that Super Turbos sound good while flowmasters sound like exhaust coming through a tin can with loose lids rattling around inside.
Just my admittedly not-very-humble opinion on this religious issue.
The difference is that Super Turbos sound good while flowmasters sound like exhaust coming through a tin can with loose lids rattling around inside.
Just my admittedly not-very-humble opinion on this religious issue.
Now, as far as what is recommended for any specific person? It really depends on what kind of sound or loudness level you're looking for. It also depends on whether or not you have a catalytic converter on the car. If your 79 has the stock 2-1-2 exhaust with the stock cat, it won't really be too much louder because the cat is sooooo restrictive. I installed Mid America's true dual exhaust, H-pipe, and the Flowmasters mentioned and I'm happy. Not too loud but still rumbles quite nicely. However, I have heard people say that Borla makes the best sounding exhaust, it will even make the 4 banger ricers sound good (this is heresay so don't flame me). I just couldn't afford the Borlas.
Another thing, most mufflers use fiberglass or some other material which tends to blow out after time, thus changing the sound. Flowmasters are welded and they use baffles so you don't have to worry about that.
However, as mentioned above, the Dynomax SuperTurbo will bolt right up to the stock exhaust, but Flowmasters (and others) will need to be welded. The Flowmasters are also a little long so it took some ingenuity to get them tucked up like stock, and they still aren't quite where I would want them to be.
What should you get from all this yammering? If you want ease of installation, still have the stock setup and aren't looking for loud, then go with the Dynomax. If you are going to have someone do the installation and want a good deep rumble, get Flowmasters or even Borlas if you can afford them.
The most difficult thing to do is to explain how a particular muffler sounds. Good luck with your decision.
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Re: Exhaust Question (Teresa)
In my humble opinion, the stock mufflers are the best. They sound good, they always fit right, and look like they belong on the car. Whatever you do, stay far, far away from monzas.
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Re: Exhaust Question (VTHokie77Vette)
I've got Flowmater 40's. They are loud and there is resonance at low RPMs in the car (RPMs>1500 no problem). I'm thinking to install a cross pipe to soften the tone and remove some of the resonance. After crusing for several hours they can get on my nerves, i.e, ears! I have got a lot of compiments on the sound though. If you haven't used loud pipes before, you might want to consider something a little more tame. Just my opinion.
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Re: Exhaust Question (74Vetteski)
I have flowmaster 40 series on my vette and I love the sound. I'll admit that it is loud and there is a slight metallic sound, but my car isn't my daily driver so that's fine. Also I have dual flow 40s on my 97 GMC shortwide. On my truck though they have a very smooth tone, no metal sound. I assume it is because of the difference in length of pipe behind the mufflers and difference in tips(much larger and longer on the truck). Your cam is also going to make a big difference in sound. You might think about sound deadening the floor of your car. That way you can still cruise with the windows down or top off, but have less noise when you don't want it. I see less of the mufflers with this set-up than with the stock, which in my opinion is a good thing.
Jason
[Modified by jdharkey, 2:05 AM 12/31/2001]
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Re: Exhaust Question (Teresa)
I have Dynomax Super Turbos on my 78. Stock exhaust, except it has a high-flow cat.
Very deep up to about 2000 rpm. When driving around at low speeds, the car gets tons of attention. On the freeway, it's rather calm.
-Steve
Very deep up to about 2000 rpm. When driving around at low speeds, the car gets tons of attention. On the freeway, it's rather calm.
-Steve
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Re: Exhaust Question (Teresa)
I installed the dynomax super turbos on my 1980 l-48, I also removed the cat to. I am happy with the sound, it is a bit louder at idle then the stock setup and the fit was excellent.
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Re: Exhaust Question (L79vette)
Donning flameproof suit...
The difference is that Super Turbos sound good while flowmasters sound like exhaust coming through a tin can with loose lids rattling around inside.
Just my admittedly not-very-humble opinion on this religious issue.
The difference is that Super Turbos sound good while flowmasters sound like exhaust coming through a tin can with loose lids rattling around inside.
Just my admittedly not-very-humble opinion on this religious issue.
Obviously you heard the mufflers on the wrong car...I have NO resonance and No tinny sound whatsoever...They may sound that way on a mustang But they do not on my vette at ALL :cheers: :jester
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Re: Exhaust Question (Alwyn678)
Hee hee. Funny you should say that, because the 40's were indeed on a 'Stang. However, I have heard many others mention the resonance problem with Flowmasters. Whenever you are using tuned chamber sizes to cancel sound waves you are going to get some resonances. Super Turbos do use fiberglass sound damping. Mine only have a thousand miles or so. They haven't blown out yet!
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Re: Exhaust Question (Teresa)
How does Ultra Flow compare to the Super Turbo?
Seems like people here prefer Super Turbo, but the chart at Dynomax site shows that the Ultra flows more than the double.
Are they much louder?
Seems like people here prefer Super Turbo, but the chart at Dynomax site shows that the Ultra flows more than the double.
Are they much louder?
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Re: Exhaust Question (L79vette)
Hee hee. Funny you should say that, because the 40's were indeed on a 'Stang. However, I have heard many others mention the resonance problem with Flowmasters. Whenever you are using tuned chamber sizes to cancel sound waves you are going to get some resonances. Super Turbos do use fiberglass sound damping. Mine only have a thousand miles or so. They haven't blown out yet!
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Re: Exhaust Question (Teresa)
Dynomax Super Turbos; the reason I put them on was low restriction and a cool sound.
Took it in into a shop that I trust, anyway they recommended the Dynomax Super Turbos, based on a test they run on them. The test is the following; took car to drag strip with out mufflers and ran it, then put the Dynomax Super Turbos on it and the car ran the same time. They claim it doesn't :nono: slow a car down any by having them on.
I can't prove they did it, ;) but have no reason not to believe them. After all they will install any muffler system for me, I can even order the parts myself.
Plus it sound like a 50 muscle car to me. :cool:
Took it in into a shop that I trust, anyway they recommended the Dynomax Super Turbos, based on a test they run on them. The test is the following; took car to drag strip with out mufflers and ran it, then put the Dynomax Super Turbos on it and the car ran the same time. They claim it doesn't :nono: slow a car down any by having them on.
I can't prove they did it, ;) but have no reason not to believe them. After all they will install any muffler system for me, I can even order the parts myself.
Plus it sound like a 50 muscle car to me. :cool: