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Old 07-27-2008, 11:59 PM
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Camaro watch: The Z28 is dead



If you’re a Camaro fan, you might want to look away. This one is gonna sting a little — or a lot. Put simply, there will be no Z28 Camaro. That’s right: the program has been given the axe.

Rumors started making the rounds on Tuesday of this week about the uber-Camaro’s demise. After doing some checking around with very well placed sources, we’re afraid those initial rumblings are true.

The Z/28 was set to feature the fire-breathing LS8 motor. A 6.2L, small block V8 with a roots-style supercharger that was supposed to be good for 500 to 550 horsepower. With the Z28 put out to pasture, the SS model will now be the top dog. In the Camaro Super Sport’s engine cradle, you’ll find the LS3 V8 rated somewhere in the 400 to 450 hp neighborhood.

Normally this is where we’d speculate on the reason for this move by GM, though, do we even have to say it?

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Confirmed: GM says “there will be no Z28 model” Camaro

July24


Earlier this month, several reliable sources told Leftlane the Z28 Camaro program at GM had been cancelled. Despite a backlash from Camaro fan clubs claiming the sources must be wrong, a GM executive on Monday officially confirmed what we already knew. “There will be no Z28 model,” said Chevrolet product manager Cheryl Pilcher in a newly published interview.

“Through the four generations of Camaro, there have been cases where Chevrolet chose to make the Z28 the top dog or the SS the top dog.” she told Automobile Magazine. Consistent with a renewed focus on the SS brand, GM has decided to give the top slot to the SS.
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Old 07-30-2008, 06:49 PM
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Not to sound like an azzhat, but isn't 450 hp enough?? Keep in mind, the 4th gen Z/28 had 320 NET hp, and was a strong runner. Even the "big block" SS396s of the 60s that people still drool over, were underrated a bit, but still claimed 375 GROSS hp with the top option. In reality, they probably were producing around 425, but if you recalculate that in "net" terms that are used today, you're around 335, just a hair more than the '02 Z/28's small block!

Furthermore, it's COMMON KNOWLEDGE, at least to us "old timers", that Chevrolet's policy will NEVER let any other car in their line up, outperform the Corvette.

$4.50 per gallon for gas, while a concern, is more than likely NOT the real reason for no Z/28 model....
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Old 07-30-2008, 07:05 PM
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SS has always been the top dog. Only time the Z28 was the top dog is when there wasnt a SS.
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Old 07-31-2008, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 02MillenniumVette
SS has always been the top dog. Only time the Z28 was the top dog is when there wasnt a SS.

Good point!

Something else to ponder...The ONLY reason for the Z/28 option was to get the 302 engine/suspension package legalized for the SCCA TransAm series way back in '67. By happenstance, it just sort of took off, and created a life of its own....
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Why even bring back the Camaro if there will not be a Z/28? The Z/28 community has always been a large part of the Camaro community. If there won't be a Z/28, there are many who won't even bother with the new Camaro.

GM could have still added handling upgrades to make a Z/28 without getting crazy with the engine. The SS always had more HP than the Z/28 anyway. The Z/28 was made to be dominant on the road courses, not the drag strips.
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Originally Posted by efranzen
Why even bring back the Camaro if there will not be a Z/28? The Z/28 community has always been a large part of the Camaro community. If there won't be a Z/28, there are many who won't even bother with the new Camaro.

GM could have still added handling upgrades to make a Z/28 without getting crazy with the engine. The SS always had more HP than the Z/28 anyway. The Z/28 was made to be dominant on the road courses, not the drag strips.

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I think the whole problem is that this car is not going to sell like it needs too, there is a reason they pulled the plug in 2002. Bring out a 280hp V-8 Camaro for under 18K and you have something. Chevy needs 150K unit sales not 50K. I am still excited to see it back, but it is like these guys are selling to an imaginary market. I am surprised they think the SS nameplate is stronger then Z28.
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