C3 Tech/Performance V8 Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Basic Tech and Maintenance for the C3 Corvette
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Slow to build oil pressure-problem?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-24-2001, 03:44 AM
  #1  
NoWorries
Race Director
Thread Starter
 
NoWorries's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2000
Location: Enter Post Count Here
Posts: 16,477
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Slow to build oil pressure-problem?

I have a brand new 355 with 32 hours and 900 miles on it. It still maintains 60 psi of oil pressure at idle. But, my problem is when I start up, I get pressure immediately, about 10 psi, but then it takes about 25 seconds to get to 60 psi. The guage is mechanical, and goes up when rpms go up.

The oil pump a Melling high-volume pump, I can't remember the part number, but I took it apart to check clearances and they were perfect.

I'm running Valvoline 10-W30, and the temperature has ranged from -6 F to 40 F, but the temp doesn't really seem to affect how fast the pressure rises.

Another thing I've considered is that the guage has already worn out. It used to be quick and responsive, but now has slowed down a bit.

Last thing, I'm using a copper line instead of the vinyl one that came with it. Is this wise? I've heard that although it seems that copper should last longer, its more prone to breaking than the vinyl line. Which do you recommend?

Thanks for any light you can shed on the subject.


[Modified by NoWorries, 12:45 AM 12/24/2001]
Old 12-24-2001, 01:03 PM
  #2  
Techno
Drifting
 
Techno's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2001
Location: 68 427 4.11s Roadster
Posts: 1,469
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts

Default Re: Slow to build oil pressure-problem? (NoWorries)

My brother had the stock spaggetti hose break on him, when he was wearing white! He didn't like the episode or cleaning oil off the rug. I haven't changed mine but I want to go to a braided overkill line. I've heard aluminum and copper can break from vibration, you'se takes your chances.

Your pressure thing seems to be more temperature related. Try pouring some of that oil at 40* and watch how slooow it pours.
Old 12-24-2001, 03:50 PM
  #3  
clem zahrobsky
Le Mans Master
 
clem zahrobsky's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 1999
Location: delmont pa
Posts: 6,744
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Cruise-In I Veteran
Cruise-In II Veteran

Default Re: Slow to build oil pressure-problem? (NoWorries)

if the oil filter bypass in the filter adapter is plugged this will happen because it takes a while for the oil to get through the filter. when oil pressure shoots right up to the top it is going through the filter bypass.
Old 12-25-2001, 12:37 AM
  #4  
gerry c
Racer
 
gerry c's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2001
Location: Lake Hughes CA
Posts: 251
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Slow to build oil pressure-problem? (NoWorries)

I have a brand new 355 with 32 hours and 900 miles on it. It still maintains 60 psi of oil pressure at idle. But, my problem is when I start up, I get pressure immediately, about 10 psi, but then it takes about 25 seconds to get to 60 psi. The guage is mechanical, and goes up when rpms go up.
Have you changed the oil filter recently? That is what I would try first as one my old Blaser if I have not changed the filter in a while (10k miles or so) it acts like that. At 900 miles I would probably be on at least my thrid oil/filter change. A lot of "junk" can come off a fresh rebuild.

Old 12-25-2001, 01:39 AM
  #5  
Blake-73
Advanced
 
Blake-73's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2001
Location: Snellville GA
Posts: 73
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Slow to build oil pressure-problem? (gerry c)

I agree with the oil filter bypass being plugged as the most likely problem.

Good luck!

Blake-73
Old 12-25-2001, 07:15 AM
  #6  
NoWorries
Race Director
Thread Starter
 
NoWorries's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2000
Location: Enter Post Count Here
Posts: 16,477
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: Slow to build oil pressure-problem? (gerry c)

Thanks for the replies. I'm 400 miles into my third oil change, I've just recently noticed this problem. I'm running a K&N oil filter, and the bypass was cleaned when the motor was apart.

I'm planning on doing the next oil change at 1,500 miles, I'll pull the bypass and make sure its working correctly then.

Until then, I'll just give it a little more time to warm up. I tested it after letting the oil get to 180 degrees, I shut it off, let oil pressure completely bleed off, then started it again. It rose faster, but its still slow.

My 1984 Blazer with 167,000 miles on the rebuild makes pressure immediately, thats why I thought this was odd. The Blazer has a stock pump with blue-printed bearings.

Thanks again, you guys have been so much more helpful than the C4 guys.
Old 12-29-2001, 09:07 PM
  #7  
NoWorries
Race Director
Thread Starter
 
NoWorries's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2000
Location: Enter Post Count Here
Posts: 16,477
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: Slow to build oil pressure-problem? (Blake-73)

Hey guys, I went into Autozone(closer) and asked for an oil filter bypass, and even described it to the guy, and he looked at me like I was nuts.

So I drove all the way across town to a NAPA, he at least knew what I was talking about, but he told me I'd probably have to get it from the dealer. I've had bad luck with the only dealer close to me, and I refuse to give any business to them, as weird as it may sound. I'm moving back to the big city on the 12th of January and could pick up a new bypass then.

Anyways, how could the bypass go bad? Does the spring wear out? I cleaned it pretty well while it was apart. Does it matter which way its bolted on? The book I have said it didn't matter, and I looked at it for a while and decided the book must be right, so I just bolted it on. Could I have it backwards?

Thanks. :)
Old 12-29-2001, 11:03 PM
  #8  
Phlash
Racer
 
Phlash's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2001
Location: Pampa Tx
Posts: 272
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default Re: Slow to build oil pressure-problem? (NoWorries)

Some filters have a bypass, long ago when I drove Fords, I found that Fram didn't give the oil pressure that the Motocraft filters did. Maybe the K&N isn't for you.

Phlash 72 BB Roadster :seeya
Old 12-29-2001, 11:27 PM
  #9  
Techno
Drifting
 
Techno's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2001
Location: 68 427 4.11s Roadster
Posts: 1,469
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts

Default Re: Slow to build oil pressure-problem? (Phlash)

The oil by pass serves 2 purposes I'm not sure if youse guys understand it right.
IF the filter is plugged the oil is then by-passed and pumped into the engine without filtering.
IF for some reason high oil pressure is obtained this releases it, A plugged oil filter would cause high pressure as sensed by the by-pass. Very high pressure can do things like blow the filter apart. Or ruin the bearings. It acts as a pressure regulator by releasing pressure, although I've seen mine go pretty high.
It's main use is for people who don't change their filter so the engine gets oil. It can be eliminated so all oil gets filtered. but this means you have to do what I'm sure everyone is already doing, taking care of the oil changes.

I think on BBs with 4 bolt mains this by-pass is under a plug above the filter. Forgot its been a while. A little different than the others?

Get notified of new replies

To Slow to build oil pressure-problem?




Quick Reply: Slow to build oil pressure-problem?



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:36 AM.