Pictures of 76 to 63 frame progress
#1
Drifting
Thread Starter
Pictures of 76 to 63 frame progress
Here are a few pictures of progress of my 63 roadster project. I have run the engine an hour or so and sorted out a few little problems and it is ready to go. Just have to add brakes and chassis is ready to go.
#2
Melting Slicks
Hello
You done and excellent job..One day.. I hope when I do my restoration on my 1963 Corvette ragtop it will look half as good as yours!
NICE JOB!
You done and excellent job..One day.. I hope when I do my restoration on my 1963 Corvette ragtop it will look half as good as yours!
NICE JOB!
#3
Le Mans Master
Jeff:
GREAT looking job. ANd I know it is not only great looking but well done also.
Rich
GREAT looking job. ANd I know it is not only great looking but well done also.
Rich
#4
What kinda brakes
Hey Silverslashstreak, Very nice job on frame and motor. What brakes and spindles are you using on your car. I want to put disc on my car, so I'm curious!
40zr1
40zr1
#5
Drifting
Thread Starter
Thanks guys, it is the first time I have been able to take my time and not be in a hurry to get it on the road and that makes it alot more fun.
ZR1, I am using all stock 76 spindles and brakes. I am probably going to use Muskegon Brakes stock stainless calipers because they have the best price on powder coated units.
The only mods I have done is the jeep box and slotted upper a frames (to get 5 degrees positive caster) and fiberglass rear spring.
ZR1, I am using all stock 76 spindles and brakes. I am probably going to use Muskegon Brakes stock stainless calipers because they have the best price on powder coated units.
The only mods I have done is the jeep box and slotted upper a frames (to get 5 degrees positive caster) and fiberglass rear spring.
#6
Safety Car
Jeff
Loooooooking Goooooood
George
Loooooooking Goooooood
George
#7
Race Director
SSS - Is it necessary to have so much caster with the addition of the jeep box? Did you run the jeep box with stock caster and the steering was somehow unsatisfactory? I'm close to ordering a jeep box for my 67 but had not anticipated slotting the a frames. Is it necessary for some reason? It is not mentioned at the Corvette Steering site. More info needed from an informed user!
Louie
Louie
#9
Melting Slicks
SSS - Is it necessary to have so much caster with the addition of the jeep box? Did you run the jeep box with stock caster and the steering was somehow unsatisfactory? I'm close to ordering a jeep box for my 67 but had not anticipated slotting the a frames. Is it necessary for some reason? It is not mentioned at the Corvette Steering site. More info needed from an informed user!
Louie
Louie
#10
Le Mans Master
Bumper Brackets
I remember from your previous thread you test fitted your body to the frame in order to verify that all of the body mounts were going to line up before you performed your final welding. I was wondering if you "pre-fitted" your rear bumper brackets and your gas tank too. This particular frame conversion is of great interest to me as I may do the same process.
Mudbone64
Mudbone64
#11
Race Director
I still don't understand. I've had C2 with and without PS and, except for lighter steering, the PS didn't make the car feel different. What difference in feel will 5-6 degrees of caster make as far as the driving experience? I autocross a lot -- will the additional caster be noticeable while doing that? Apologies for the questions, but I've never heard about so much caster being added to a car, to the extend that mounting holes have to be elongated.
#12
I still don't understand. I've had C2 with and without PS and, except for lighter steering, the PS didn't make the car feel different. What difference in feel will 5-6 degrees of caster make as far as the driving experience? I autocross a lot -- will the additional caster be noticeable while doing that? Apologies for the questions, but I've never heard about so much caster being added to a car, to the extend that mounting holes have to be elongated.
By adding more caster you make the car want to go straight down the road. This would make the car harder to turn if you did it with a manual box, but with the power it makes the car easyer to drive.
#13
Drifting
Thread Starter
I still don't understand. I've had C2 with and without PS and, except for lighter steering, the PS didn't make the car feel different. What difference in feel will 5-6 degrees of caster make as far as the driving experience? I autocross a lot -- will the additional caster be noticeable while doing that? Apologies for the questions, but I've never heard about so much caster being added to a car, to the extend that mounting holes have to be elongated.
The reason + caster makes a car more stable is when the tire turns out it tries to lift the front of the car so it is harder to turn the wheel and it makes the tire try to stay on center.
This also helps in auto crossing. First rule is that weight transfers diagonally across a cars chassis. (If you lift the right front of a car you will transfer weight from the right rear wheel to the left rear wheel). So when your car starts to slide to the right when you are coming off a left turn and you counter steer to the right you are lifting the right front of the car and transfering weight to the left rear thus tightening up the rear of the car so you can get off the corner faster.
This is my SWC last year at Eureka and it ran 4th fast on the day out of over 120 vettes, about 90% late models. You can watch the rear end tighten up as it is coming of a corner. Long winded explanation, hope it helps.
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#14
Race Director
Jeff - Nice line thru the autoX! What HP does that 63 animal produce? Very cool that you were so fast in a crowd of new Vettes. I'm planning to redoing my 327 soon and being lots faster on the circuits.
Thanks for the caster explanation.... finally it is clear. Thanks also for mentioning that the jeep box is not too twitchy to live with given normal alignment settings.
Louie
Thanks for the caster explanation.... finally it is clear. Thanks also for mentioning that the jeep box is not too twitchy to live with given normal alignment settings.
Louie
Louie, Injected and Aworks are correct, it is not necessary to add the caster, you will be ok with the stock recommendation of 2 degrees, but when you add the positive caster it makes your car much more directionally stable at high speeds. As for the Jeep box being to sensitive I ran my first one for a few years with 2 degrees and I never felt like it was twitchy or to sensitive.
The reason + caster makes a car more stable is when the tire turns out it tries to lift the front of the car so it is harder to turn the wheel and it makes the tire try to stay on center.
This also helps in auto crossing. First rule is that weight transfers diagonally across a cars chassis. (If you lift the right front of a car you will transfer weight from the right rear wheel to the left rear wheel). So when your car starts to slide to the right when you are coming off a left turn and you counter steer to the right you are lifting the right front of the car and transfering weight to the left rear thus tightening up the rear of the car so you can get off the corner faster.
This is my SWC last year at Eureka and it ran 4th fast on the day out of over 120 vettes, about 90% late models. You can watch the rear end tighten up as it is coming of a corner. Long winded explanation, hope it helps.
[IMG][/IMG]
The reason + caster makes a car more stable is when the tire turns out it tries to lift the front of the car so it is harder to turn the wheel and it makes the tire try to stay on center.
This also helps in auto crossing. First rule is that weight transfers diagonally across a cars chassis. (If you lift the right front of a car you will transfer weight from the right rear wheel to the left rear wheel). So when your car starts to slide to the right when you are coming off a left turn and you counter steer to the right you are lifting the right front of the car and transfering weight to the left rear thus tightening up the rear of the car so you can get off the corner faster.
This is my SWC last year at Eureka and it ran 4th fast on the day out of over 120 vettes, about 90% late models. You can watch the rear end tighten up as it is coming of a corner. Long winded explanation, hope it helps.
[IMG][/IMG]
#15
Drifting
Thread Starter
Thanks Louie, the engine is a bone stock L98 out of a 90 Vette with a Street and Performance mild street chip running through a Stock T5 transmission.
I have said it before, if I had to choose 1 mod only, it would be the Jeep box.
Jeff
I have said it before, if I had to choose 1 mod only, it would be the Jeep box.
Jeff
#17
Race Director
The fact that you don't have a Monster Motor shows how well your car.... and your driving ... are dialed in at the autox track.
Now I HAVE to get the jeep box! You've recommended it year after year, and my resistance has finally crumbled...after seeing you autocrossing with it!
Louie
#18
Drifting
Thread Starter
I remember from your previous thread you test fitted your body to the frame in order to verify that all of the body mounts were going to line up before you performed your final welding. I was wondering if you "pre-fitted" your rear bumper brackets and your gas tank too. This particular frame conversion is of great interest to me as I may do the same process.
Mudbone64
Mudbone64
By the way Louie that steering box will lower your times by a good 20%.
#19
Race Director