APS C5 extreme fuel system-1000 RWHP fuel supply for 03/04 model C5
07-20-2007, 02:35 AM
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APS C5 extreme fuel system-1000 RWHP fuel supply for 03/04 model C5
Hi Guys, Just thought you'd all like to see the new 1000 rwhp fuel supply system for the 03/04 model twin turbo C5/C5 ZO6 Corvette, enjoy! 
Peter
http://www.airpowersystems.com/guide...-fss09/bom.htm
Peter
http://www.airpowersystems.com/guide...-fss09/bom.htm
07-20-2007, 02:57 AM
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Is the pricing a secret?
Found the early model page: http://www.airpowersystems.com/corve...scc5-fss09.htm
Found the early model page: http://www.airpowersystems.com/corve...scc5-fss09.htm
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07-20-2007, 05:57 AM
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1) What real world results, graphs or facts are there to back that this will support 1000 RWHP?
2) Can you please explain while this is considered a 1000RWHP fuel system?
3) Are the regulators adjustable?
4) If they aren't, what is the set pressure?
5) I'm a little confused by your design, by the literature it is saying that there are two feed lines from the tank, I don't see a return line, is there one?
6) So are both pumps running all the time, if so, aren't you worrried about the fuel heating up?
7) How exactly do you put a fuel pressure gauge in here, unless you want to run twin gauges inside the car? At no point do the lines come together to make it possible to run a gauge, the only time they do come together is after the regulator. Sure you can put it on one side or the other, but one pump fails you have no clue, other side leans out, boom!
8) Can you give us a little background on the manufacturer of the pumps, their flow rate, and the waranty?
9) The same as above on the regulators?
10) When do you forsee a system for the earlier C5's
11) Pricing and availability?
Thanks for any help you can offer Peter?
Dan
2) Can you please explain while this is considered a 1000RWHP fuel system?
3) Are the regulators adjustable?
4) If they aren't, what is the set pressure?
5) I'm a little confused by your design, by the literature it is saying that there are two feed lines from the tank, I don't see a return line, is there one?
6) So are both pumps running all the time, if so, aren't you worrried about the fuel heating up?
7) How exactly do you put a fuel pressure gauge in here, unless you want to run twin gauges inside the car? At no point do the lines come together to make it possible to run a gauge, the only time they do come together is after the regulator. Sure you can put it on one side or the other, but one pump fails you have no clue, other side leans out, boom!
8) Can you give us a little background on the manufacturer of the pumps, their flow rate, and the waranty?
9) The same as above on the regulators?
10) When do you forsee a system for the earlier C5's
11) Pricing and availability?
Thanks for any help you can offer Peter?
Dan
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07-20-2007, 09:41 AM
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1) What real world results, graphs or facts are there to back that this will support 1000 RWHP?
2) Can you please explain while this is considered a 1000RWHP fuel system?
3) Are the regulators adjustable?
4) If they aren't, what is the set pressure?
5) I'm a little confused by your design, by the literature it is saying that there are two feed lines from the tank, I don't see a return line, is there one?
6) So are both pumps running all the time, if so, aren't you worrried about the fuel heating up?
7) How exactly do you put a fuel pressure gauge in here, unless you want to run twin gauges inside the car? At no point do the lines come together to make it possible to run a gauge, the only time they do come together is after the regulator. Sure you can put it on one side or the other, but one pump fails you have no clue, other side leans out, boom!
8) Can you give us a little background on the manufacturer of the pumps, their flow rate, and the waranty?
9) The same as above on the regulators?
10) When do you forsee a system for the earlier C5's
11) Pricing and availability?
Thanks for any help you can offer Peter?
Dan
8) What is the pricing
2) Can you please explain while this is considered a 1000RWHP fuel system?
3) Are the regulators adjustable?
4) If they aren't, what is the set pressure?
5) I'm a little confused by your design, by the literature it is saying that there are two feed lines from the tank, I don't see a return line, is there one?
6) So are both pumps running all the time, if so, aren't you worrried about the fuel heating up?
7) How exactly do you put a fuel pressure gauge in here, unless you want to run twin gauges inside the car? At no point do the lines come together to make it possible to run a gauge, the only time they do come together is after the regulator. Sure you can put it on one side or the other, but one pump fails you have no clue, other side leans out, boom!
8) Can you give us a little background on the manufacturer of the pumps, their flow rate, and the waranty?
9) The same as above on the regulators?
10) When do you forsee a system for the earlier C5's
11) Pricing and availability?
Thanks for any help you can offer Peter?
Dan
8) What is the pricing
12) Where are the provisions for the fuel filter placement between the fuel pumps and the fuel injectors?
*The C6 kits don't have any- we had to fabricate them extra in order to implement a proper fuel filter and *no*....the fuel pump inlet socks at the fuel pumps do *not* strain the fuel finely enough to be effective in keeping dirt out of an injector pintle.
07-20-2007, 03:58 PM
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The C6 kits don't have any- we had to fabricate them extra in order to implement a proper fuel filter and *no*....the fuel pump inlet socks at the fuel pumps do *not* strain the fuel finely enough to be effective in keeping dirt out of an injector pintle
07-20-2007, 06:14 PM
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Man, I started writing a few other "disclaimers" they should have, but I will leave it alone. Hopefully Peter can come on here and answer all the above questions but I do believe they are a day ahead of us so it would be Saturday there. i wouldn't be on here either!
Maybe by late Sunday he will post up some answers for us!
Dan
Maybe by late Sunday he will post up some answers for us! Dan
07-20-2007, 11:12 PM
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Man, I started writing a few other "disclaimers" they should have, but I will leave it alone. Hopefully Peter can come on here and answer all the above questions but I do believe they are a day ahead of us so it would be Saturday there. i wouldn't be on here either! Maybe by late Sunday he will post up some answers for us!
Dan
Maybe by late Sunday he will post up some answers for us! Dan
07-21-2007, 10:28 AM
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Man, I started writing a few other "disclaimers" they should have, but I will leave it alone. Hopefully Peter can come on here and answer all the above questions but I do believe they are a day ahead of us so it would be Saturday there. i wouldn't be on here either! Maybe by late Sunday he will post up some answers for us!
Dan
Maybe by late Sunday he will post up some answers for us! Dan
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07-21-2007, 10:33 AM
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Also-
12) Where are the provisions for the fuel filter placement between the fuel pumps and the fuel injectors?
*The C6 kits don't have any- we had to fabricate them extra in order to implement a proper fuel filter and *no*....the fuel pump inlet socks at the fuel pumps do *not* strain the fuel finely enough to be effective in keeping dirt out of an injector pintle.
12) Where are the provisions for the fuel filter placement between the fuel pumps and the fuel injectors?
*The C6 kits don't have any- we had to fabricate them extra in order to implement a proper fuel filter and *no*....the fuel pump inlet socks at the fuel pumps do *not* strain the fuel finely enough to be effective in keeping dirt out of an injector pintle.
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07-21-2007, 11:37 AM
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07-21-2007, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 95BlueBomber
Now just to make a turbo kit that will support 1000RWHP.
nice plug but i'm sure he means 1000RWHP from a APS C-5
Now just to make a turbo kit that will support 1000RWHP.
but i'm sure he means 1000RWHP from a APS C-5
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07-21-2007, 10:45 PM
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1) What real world results, graphs or facts are there to back that this will support 1000 RWHP?
Power is based on engineerings methamatical flow figures, fuel system bench testing and figures provided by Walbro the fuel pump manufacturer.
2) Can you please explain while this is considered a 1000RWHP fuel system?
Based on the fuel flow figures supplied by Walbro on the fuel pumps, the spec ans size of the fuel lines, fuel rails size and fuel injector flow rates..........twin Walbro 342 high volume fuel pumps.
3) Are the regulators adjustable?
Fuel regs are Bosch 4 bar (58 PSI) fuel regs and are pressure referenced so fuel pressure wil be 58 PSI plus boost pressure.
4) If they aren't, what is the set pressure?
See above.
5) I'm a little confused by your design, by the literature it is saying that there are two feed lines from the tank, I don't see a return line, is there one?
The standard fuel supply line becomes the fuel return line.
6) So are both pumps running all the time, if so, aren't you worrried about the fuel heating up?
Not really, as we have used this same twin fuel pump system approach for many years on many different cars and never had a fuel temperature problem to date.
7) How exactly do you put a fuel pressure gauge in here, unless you want to run twin gauges inside the car? At no point do the lines come together to make it possible to run a gauge, the only time they do come together is after the regulator. Sure you can put it on one side or the other, but one pump fails you have no clue, other side leans out, boom!
The fuel rails have a balance hose so a fuel pressure gauge can be installed between the balance hose and the fuel pressure reg with the use of a adaptor.
8) Can you give us a little background on the manufacturer of the pumps, their flow rate, and the waranty?
Pumps manufactured by Walbro in the US.
9) The same as above on the regulators?
Fuel regs manufactured by Bosch Germany.
10) When do you forsee a system for the earlier C5's
In 3 to 4 months time if all goes to plan.
11) Pricing and availability?
This I will have within the next week............I'll post up as soon as it's available.
Thanks for any help you can offer Peter?
Most welcome.
Power is based on engineerings methamatical flow figures, fuel system bench testing and figures provided by Walbro the fuel pump manufacturer.
2) Can you please explain while this is considered a 1000RWHP fuel system?
Based on the fuel flow figures supplied by Walbro on the fuel pumps, the spec ans size of the fuel lines, fuel rails size and fuel injector flow rates..........twin Walbro 342 high volume fuel pumps.
3) Are the regulators adjustable?
Fuel regs are Bosch 4 bar (58 PSI) fuel regs and are pressure referenced so fuel pressure wil be 58 PSI plus boost pressure.
4) If they aren't, what is the set pressure?
See above.
5) I'm a little confused by your design, by the literature it is saying that there are two feed lines from the tank, I don't see a return line, is there one?
The standard fuel supply line becomes the fuel return line.
6) So are both pumps running all the time, if so, aren't you worrried about the fuel heating up?
Not really, as we have used this same twin fuel pump system approach for many years on many different cars and never had a fuel temperature problem to date.
7) How exactly do you put a fuel pressure gauge in here, unless you want to run twin gauges inside the car? At no point do the lines come together to make it possible to run a gauge, the only time they do come together is after the regulator. Sure you can put it on one side or the other, but one pump fails you have no clue, other side leans out, boom!
The fuel rails have a balance hose so a fuel pressure gauge can be installed between the balance hose and the fuel pressure reg with the use of a adaptor.
8) Can you give us a little background on the manufacturer of the pumps, their flow rate, and the waranty?
Pumps manufactured by Walbro in the US.
9) The same as above on the regulators?
Fuel regs manufactured by Bosch Germany.
10) When do you forsee a system for the earlier C5's
In 3 to 4 months time if all goes to plan.
11) Pricing and availability?
This I will have within the next week............I'll post up as soon as it's available.
Thanks for any help you can offer Peter?
Most welcome.
07-23-2007, 01:47 AM
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