** New "for Sale" Rules ** Update 5/5/10 **
04-12-2007, 09:31 PM
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** New "for Sale" Rules ** Update 5/5/10 **
These are the new rules which will govern the sale of items on the forum.
These are the new rules which will govern the sale of items on the forum.
1. Commercial Sales
Supporting vendors pay for the considerable bandwidth charges on the Forum, making it free for the rest of us. In exchange, they get the privilege of using the Forum to market and promote their goods and services.
Forum members are welcome to sell a Corvette or Corvette parts they purchased for their own personal use. Anything else is considered to be a commercial sale.
MEMBERS ARE ONLY ALLOWED TO LIST CARS AND PARTS THAT THEY PERSONALLY OWN.
>>>>> Listing cars and parts for family or friend will not be allowed without prior approval by an administrator.
>>>>> These vehicles listed must be titled in the member's name prior to listing here on the forum.
Only supporting vendors can post Group Purchase threads.
2. eBay links to promote/aid a sale
For a long time, Corvetteforum has prohibited links to eBay auctions and other auction sites. The rule was implemented at the request of Forum users who said they didn’t want to have to compete with eBay buyers when a car was listed for sale here.
We have always allowed eBay links when they were used to point people toward an interesting or amusing sale.
The rule eBay links, however, has created a lot of confusion and misunderstanding on the part of site users and moderators, particularly since Google now buys space on the Forum and sometimes re-sells it to eBay.
So, for now, the rule prohibiting links to eBay and other auction sites will be rescinded and we’ll monitor the situation to see how it evolves.
There is a difference between selling something on Corvetteforum and auctioning things on eBay or another auction site. If you want to sell your car or parts on the Forum, post a detailed description, as always.
If you want to auction your car or parts on eBay, then post a link to the auction and people interested can get the details on that site. If you have a “buy it now” price on your eBay auction, you may post that with your eBay link.
We allow sales at Corvetteforum, but not auctions, so we want to avoid co-mingling the Forum sale and eBay auction of the same car or parts.
One note worth visiting: If you have a dispute involving an eBay auction, please use the eBay dispute process to address that issue, as Forum moderators are not in a position to intervene on your behalf.
You can post an unresolved dispute thread if you have a bad transaction on eBay, but the thread will serve only the purpose of alerting other Forum members to be cautious of the seller you had issues with on eBay.
3. Best Offers & Gauging Interest
The forum will permit "OBO" or "serious offers" in a sale thread where a price has been stipulated.
We will not permit threads where no price is stated, and asks for open offers. Low ball offers that are clearly ridiculous in nature, will be considered a violation of the forum rule pertaining to "Interference in a for sale," thread:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-c....php?t=1118176
Members are not permitted to "gauge interest," in their item for sale thread. Such threads will create an ebay type auction, and that is unacceptable. Sellers must create their thread with an asking price included.
Only forum vendors are permitted to gauge interest in their products.
**NOTE** Supporting vendors sometimes offer prices that are below that recommended by manufacturers, so we allow them to post threads without a price and to ask people to contact them by phone or PM for the price. We extend the same courtesy to our supporting dealers, even though in most cases it is advantegeous for them to post a price.
4. Purchasing an item for sale
This section continues to cause the most confusion amongst potential buyers, therefore, the forum will make this as simple as possible for the seller.
Posting an interest in a sale thread, or asking questions, does not subject the thread to being closed, nor, to the item being sold. An item will be consider sold, when the seller says it is, based on the simplicity of the sale.
The seller will determine who they want to sell their item/product to based on the expediency of payment, payment method, location, and overall ease of transaction. While some may feel that the first to commit to purchase in the thread would make it easy, it may not be for the seller. If another buyer lives nearby and can save the trouble of shipping, etc. the seller can move onto that buyer let's remember, it is his item/product for sale.
This will eliminate the confusion of "dibs," replies to a thread, PM's, e-mail and telephone promotions/discussions, which has caused nothing but confusion and frustration in the past.
When the seller's price is met, no higher offers can be accepted. If a seller negotiates a higher price with a member who did not win the item at his/her original asking price, the seller and offering member will subject their account to a permanent block.
5. Cross posting
If an item for sale can be used amongst multiple generations, for example a "kwiklift," system, sellers are permitted to create a primary sale thread, with a link in other sale sections leading to the primary sale thread.
As another example: C5 race tires listed in C5 parts for sale, can have another thread with a link posted in the Drag racing section.
6. No hijacking
Only replies related to the thread can be posted. If it is a for sale thread and you have the same item for sale, start your own thread.
7. Lack of profile information
Based on the fact that a sale on the forum is a private transaction between our members, the lack of profile information on the part of the seller, will no longer cause a thread to be closed. If a member feels comfortable dealing with another, that's all that matters.
The forum does not assume any responsibility for transactions conducted on the forum, and therefore will not act the role of mediator, negotiator, or enforcer of any sale.
These are private transactions, and the forum's role is that of a facilitator to help members sell and buy items from one another.
8. Interference in a For Sale thread
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-c....php?t=1118176
If you don’t like the price or item being offered in for sale thread, take it to e-mail or PMs. Better still, just move on to a thread that is offering something you like the price on.
If you post a criticism of the price or the quality of the item being offered, you will be in violation of Forum rules and subject to sanctions.
If you post your own for sale items to the for sale thread started by someone else, you also are in violation of Forum rules. Start your own thread, rather than jumping into the thread of someone else.
If your contribution to a for sale thread does not advance the sale, you are in the way.
If you spot inappropriate posts to a for sale thread, please alert a moderator.
Recommendations to aid in your sale
9. Using "WTB" "F/S" in the title
It's very helpful to start your thread title with either "F/S" or "WTB" to indicate if your thread is a For Sale thread, or a Want To Buy thread.
10. Pictures of your item(s) is highly encouraged.
As the old saying goes: "a picture is worth a 1,000 words."
11. Shipping and handling charges.
If possible, state how you will be shipping and how much you will charge. Most shipping companies will furnish an estimate based on dimensions of the box, the weight, origin and destination zip codes.
www.ups.com
www.usps.com
www.fedex.com
www.dhl.com
12. Be specific in your descriptions
Know your parts for sale before listing them in a thread. Your research and knowledge will help the buyer in making a decision to purchase.
13. Bumping threads
If you created a sale post and it has moved onto the second or third page of the section directory, you can simply "TTT" it rather than creating a new thread, but sale threads should not be bumped more than twice in any 24-hour period. Abuse of smilies or "TTT," in your thread, will result in it being closed or removed.
14. Parting out cars
Parting out your Corvette is permitted when a user has purchased a parts car for their own use to obtain parts they need for their own car and then have left-over parts no longer needed.
The seller should create his/her thread furnishing the pertinent information on the vehicle and the general categories (interior, engine, body) of parts for sale.
The forum understands the difficulty in listing each part individually, however, the seller shall list each item or groups of items with a price. Listing OBO along with a price is fine.
When an item sells, the seller is asked to update the thread to keep potential buyers informed as to what is still available without having to ask the question in the thread.
The parting out of more than one car, mass sales, and the reselling of numerous items purchased from auctions will be considered excessive and will be viewed as commercial sales.
15. Items that sell
Sellers are asked to post in the thread that their item has sold, and to send a PM (private message) to a section Moderator so the thread can be closed.
These are the new rules which will govern the sale of items on the forum.
1. Commercial Sales
Supporting vendors pay for the considerable bandwidth charges on the Forum, making it free for the rest of us. In exchange, they get the privilege of using the Forum to market and promote their goods and services.
Forum members are welcome to sell a Corvette or Corvette parts they purchased for their own personal use. Anything else is considered to be a commercial sale.
MEMBERS ARE ONLY ALLOWED TO LIST CARS AND PARTS THAT THEY PERSONALLY OWN.
>>>>> Listing cars and parts for family or friend will not be allowed without prior approval by an administrator.
>>>>> These vehicles listed must be titled in the member's name prior to listing here on the forum.
Only supporting vendors can post Group Purchase threads.
2. eBay links to promote/aid a sale
For a long time, Corvetteforum has prohibited links to eBay auctions and other auction sites. The rule was implemented at the request of Forum users who said they didn’t want to have to compete with eBay buyers when a car was listed for sale here.
We have always allowed eBay links when they were used to point people toward an interesting or amusing sale.
The rule eBay links, however, has created a lot of confusion and misunderstanding on the part of site users and moderators, particularly since Google now buys space on the Forum and sometimes re-sells it to eBay.
So, for now, the rule prohibiting links to eBay and other auction sites will be rescinded and we’ll monitor the situation to see how it evolves.
There is a difference between selling something on Corvetteforum and auctioning things on eBay or another auction site. If you want to sell your car or parts on the Forum, post a detailed description, as always.
If you want to auction your car or parts on eBay, then post a link to the auction and people interested can get the details on that site. If you have a “buy it now” price on your eBay auction, you may post that with your eBay link.
We allow sales at Corvetteforum, but not auctions, so we want to avoid co-mingling the Forum sale and eBay auction of the same car or parts.
One note worth visiting: If you have a dispute involving an eBay auction, please use the eBay dispute process to address that issue, as Forum moderators are not in a position to intervene on your behalf.
You can post an unresolved dispute thread if you have a bad transaction on eBay, but the thread will serve only the purpose of alerting other Forum members to be cautious of the seller you had issues with on eBay.
3. Best Offers & Gauging Interest
The forum will permit "OBO" or "serious offers" in a sale thread where a price has been stipulated.
We will not permit threads where no price is stated, and asks for open offers. Low ball offers that are clearly ridiculous in nature, will be considered a violation of the forum rule pertaining to "Interference in a for sale," thread:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-c....php?t=1118176
Members are not permitted to "gauge interest," in their item for sale thread. Such threads will create an ebay type auction, and that is unacceptable. Sellers must create their thread with an asking price included.
Only forum vendors are permitted to gauge interest in their products.
**NOTE** Supporting vendors sometimes offer prices that are below that recommended by manufacturers, so we allow them to post threads without a price and to ask people to contact them by phone or PM for the price. We extend the same courtesy to our supporting dealers, even though in most cases it is advantegeous for them to post a price.
4. Purchasing an item for sale
This section continues to cause the most confusion amongst potential buyers, therefore, the forum will make this as simple as possible for the seller.
Posting an interest in a sale thread, or asking questions, does not subject the thread to being closed, nor, to the item being sold. An item will be consider sold, when the seller says it is, based on the simplicity of the sale.
The seller will determine who they want to sell their item/product to based on the expediency of payment, payment method, location, and overall ease of transaction. While some may feel that the first to commit to purchase in the thread would make it easy, it may not be for the seller. If another buyer lives nearby and can save the trouble of shipping, etc. the seller can move onto that buyer let's remember, it is his item/product for sale.
This will eliminate the confusion of "dibs," replies to a thread, PM's, e-mail and telephone promotions/discussions, which has caused nothing but confusion and frustration in the past.
When the seller's price is met, no higher offers can be accepted. If a seller negotiates a higher price with a member who did not win the item at his/her original asking price, the seller and offering member will subject their account to a permanent block.
5. Cross posting
If an item for sale can be used amongst multiple generations, for example a "kwiklift," system, sellers are permitted to create a primary sale thread, with a link in other sale sections leading to the primary sale thread.
As another example: C5 race tires listed in C5 parts for sale, can have another thread with a link posted in the Drag racing section.
6. No hijacking
Only replies related to the thread can be posted. If it is a for sale thread and you have the same item for sale, start your own thread.
7. Lack of profile information
Based on the fact that a sale on the forum is a private transaction between our members, the lack of profile information on the part of the seller, will no longer cause a thread to be closed. If a member feels comfortable dealing with another, that's all that matters.
The forum does not assume any responsibility for transactions conducted on the forum, and therefore will not act the role of mediator, negotiator, or enforcer of any sale.
These are private transactions, and the forum's role is that of a facilitator to help members sell and buy items from one another.
8. Interference in a For Sale thread
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-c....php?t=1118176
If you don’t like the price or item being offered in for sale thread, take it to e-mail or PMs. Better still, just move on to a thread that is offering something you like the price on.
If you post a criticism of the price or the quality of the item being offered, you will be in violation of Forum rules and subject to sanctions.
If you post your own for sale items to the for sale thread started by someone else, you also are in violation of Forum rules. Start your own thread, rather than jumping into the thread of someone else.
If your contribution to a for sale thread does not advance the sale, you are in the way.
If you spot inappropriate posts to a for sale thread, please alert a moderator.
Recommendations to aid in your sale
9. Using "WTB" "F/S" in the title
It's very helpful to start your thread title with either "F/S" or "WTB" to indicate if your thread is a For Sale thread, or a Want To Buy thread.
10. Pictures of your item(s) is highly encouraged.
As the old saying goes: "a picture is worth a 1,000 words."
11. Shipping and handling charges.
If possible, state how you will be shipping and how much you will charge. Most shipping companies will furnish an estimate based on dimensions of the box, the weight, origin and destination zip codes.
www.ups.com
www.usps.com
www.fedex.com
www.dhl.com
12. Be specific in your descriptions
Know your parts for sale before listing them in a thread. Your research and knowledge will help the buyer in making a decision to purchase.
13. Bumping threads
If you created a sale post and it has moved onto the second or third page of the section directory, you can simply "TTT" it rather than creating a new thread, but sale threads should not be bumped more than twice in any 24-hour period. Abuse of smilies or "TTT," in your thread, will result in it being closed or removed.
14. Parting out cars
Parting out your Corvette is permitted when a user has purchased a parts car for their own use to obtain parts they need for their own car and then have left-over parts no longer needed.
The seller should create his/her thread furnishing the pertinent information on the vehicle and the general categories (interior, engine, body) of parts for sale.
The forum understands the difficulty in listing each part individually, however, the seller shall list each item or groups of items with a price. Listing OBO along with a price is fine.
When an item sells, the seller is asked to update the thread to keep potential buyers informed as to what is still available without having to ask the question in the thread.
The parting out of more than one car, mass sales, and the reselling of numerous items purchased from auctions will be considered excessive and will be viewed as commercial sales.
15. Items that sell
Sellers are asked to post in the thread that their item has sold, and to send a PM (private message) to a section Moderator so the thread can be closed.
Last edited by Allthrottleandsomebottle; 12-02-2010 at 06:29 AM. Reason: Updated to reflect current rules
