If you don't own a Shop Manual, buy one.
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Melting Slicks
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If you don't own a Shop Manual, buy one.
I really don't mind helping out fellow Corvette owners here on the forum, but a lot of folks are asking questions that are covered in detail along with photos and diagrams in the Shop Manual. It's sometimes hard to find the right words to replace a detailed photo. So, I respectfully suggest that those of you who don't own a Shop Manual for your year car go ahead and buy one now instead of waiting until you need it. Sooner or later you'll be glad you did.
Incidentally, one item missing from my Shop Manual is an index. Does anyone have an index for a 1963 Corvette Shop Manual they can share with the forum?
Incidentally, one item missing from my Shop Manual is an index. Does anyone have an index for a 1963 Corvette Shop Manual they can share with the forum?
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kellsdad--I too am missing the index for my shop manual-1966. I guess they wore out real quick.
In exchange, I will offer this link to a proper index for the 1966 Assembly Manual. ( It's not mine, I stole it off this forum somewhere ).
http://www.corvetteforum.net/classic...im_subject.htm
In exchange, I will offer this link to a proper index for the 1966 Assembly Manual. ( It's not mine, I stole it off this forum somewhere ).
http://www.corvetteforum.net/classic...im_subject.htm
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Originally Posted by desertpilgrim
Let's go BEYOND the "shop manual" - a lot of the questions asked here could be answered by the "Owner's Manual".
.........but, sometimes it just good to talk to someone that may have done something on there car that is in the shop or owners manual that now have some insight into the job that you just can't get in a manual........or I could be wrong...
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Guys, I welcome you expressing your opinions, but I don't entirely agree. For example, it's one thing for someone to post "I've searched the Shop Manual but I can't find how to remove the ignition switch," or "I've read how to remove the ignition switch, but I don't understand the difference between OFF and LOCK." It's another thing to post, "How do I remove the ignition switch on my car?" and not even mention the year model they own.
I think its great when folks have done a little homework and then seek advice on how to do the job better or easier. I don't think it's great when folks routinely try to substitute the wide range of answers they can get on this forum for a Shop Manual, AIM or Owner's Manual.
I think its great when folks have done a little homework and then seek advice on how to do the job better or easier. I don't think it's great when folks routinely try to substitute the wide range of answers they can get on this forum for a Shop Manual, AIM or Owner's Manual.
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Originally Posted by desertpilgrim
Let's go BEYOND the "shop manual" - a lot of the questions asked here could be answered by the "Owner's Manual".
#9
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On the face of the discussion, I agree with all the points made by all here. I was thinking back to the trick about using long screws when working with the dash. Had someone not asked how to rewire their dash, that trick would have remained an obscure trick known by few. I agree that one should refer to the appropriate manuals first, then maybe ask if there is an easy way. This issue is not unique to this website.
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let me be clear - I am not talking about "how do I?" questions where someone is about to embark on a project, big or small, and would benefit from advice from those who have done it before.
I am talking about the "what's the factory timing spec for my 65 L76 engine" questions . . . . although, even there (and to your point) you get answers that go beyond the requested number and inform the member as to what really works best in practice
I am talking about the "what's the factory timing spec for my 65 L76 engine" questions . . . . although, even there (and to your point) you get answers that go beyond the requested number and inform the member as to what really works best in practice
#12
Melting Slicks
Hi
I have a 1963 Corvette Shop manual and the AIM manual I find the AIM manual useful for its pictures...
However, I usually ask questions in regarding if anyone has done the type of job (most have I come to find out!) and are there any secrets to getting it done easier or quicker...
I have a 1963 Corvette Shop manual and the AIM manual I find the AIM manual useful for its pictures...
However, I usually ask questions in regarding if anyone has done the type of job (most have I come to find out!) and are there any secrets to getting it done easier or quicker...
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Originally Posted by Blk63Vette
Hi
I have a 1963 Corvette Shop manual and the AIM manual I find the AIM manual useful for its pictures...
I have a 1963 Corvette Shop manual and the AIM manual I find the AIM manual useful for its pictures...
The index link posted above is for the 66 AIM (Assembly Instruction Manual), and its compliment (sorted alphabetically) is available at the bottom of this web page: http//www.corvetteforum.net/classics/ magicmachine/index5.shtml
I have been told by others who got the 66 AIM index as an xls file, that they would convert it to 63 to 65 indexes, but I haven't heard from them (or I would post the results).
The 66 "shop manual" is named the Chassis Service Manual, for those of you who are confused by reference to the more common name given to manufacturers repair manuals for dealer mechanics. Actually, I have never looked to see if the Chassis Service Manual has an index. Does it?
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In addition to an owner's manual, AIM, and appropriate service manual(s), all owners should have a copy of the AMA specs that is included with the "Corvette Restoration Package", available complimentary from GM Customer Service, 800-222-1020. They will want your VIN.
For pre-'63 models the service manual is ST-12. For '63 to '65 you need a 1963 Corvette Shop Manual and '64 or '65 Supplement as required.
Beginning in '66 all operations for all pass. cars including Corvette are in a "Chassis Service Manual" and "Chassis Overhaul Manual". I believe there is also a body manual.
All these pubs are reasonably priced, and if you ever plan on taking a wrench to your car, you should have ALL of them.
I answer very few questions because more often than not, owners don't even give a model year, engine option, or other data that is pertinent to the task.
It's one thing to provide help based on experience. It's quite another to spoon feed adults who who don't know the first thing about their cars because they don't have any of the above documentation.
Duke
For pre-'63 models the service manual is ST-12. For '63 to '65 you need a 1963 Corvette Shop Manual and '64 or '65 Supplement as required.
Beginning in '66 all operations for all pass. cars including Corvette are in a "Chassis Service Manual" and "Chassis Overhaul Manual". I believe there is also a body manual.
All these pubs are reasonably priced, and if you ever plan on taking a wrench to your car, you should have ALL of them.
I answer very few questions because more often than not, owners don't even give a model year, engine option, or other data that is pertinent to the task.
It's one thing to provide help based on experience. It's quite another to spoon feed adults who who don't know the first thing about their cars because they don't have any of the above documentation.
Duke
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Melting Slicks
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No, the 1963 Corvette Shop Manual did not come with an index. If I search long enough I can usually find what I need, but sometimes it takes a while. I'm hoping someone with a lot of free time did everyone else a favor and created an index on a downloadable file.
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Shop manuals have a table of contents, and GM uses a standard numbering system for various systems. The engine is "6", (with engine subsystems such as cooling, ignition and charging systems in subgroups), transmission is "7", brakes "5", rear suspension and driveline is "4"....
So look in the index for the appropriate section, then go to that section and skim through the information until you get to what you need.
Duke
So look in the index for the appropriate section, then go to that section and skim through the information until you get to what you need.
Duke
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All of the Shop Manuals and Chassis Service Manuals (and the Chassis Overhaul Manuals) have an index on the second page, on the right side, top to bottom of the page - not rocket science. As posted earlier, the Owner's Manuals also have a wealth of information.
I can't imagine anyone owning a 40-year-old car without having the Owner's Manual and applicable GM Service and Overhaul Manuals, and the Assembly Manual. You need them to do your own work, and if you don't, do you really think any dealership or independent garage, alignment shop, frame shop, etc. is going to have the correct 40-year-old technical references on hand? Not likely.
If you have a classic car worth $40K-$100K, $85.00 for all the correct technical references to maintain it doesn't seem unreasonable.
I can't imagine anyone owning a 40-year-old car without having the Owner's Manual and applicable GM Service and Overhaul Manuals, and the Assembly Manual. You need them to do your own work, and if you don't, do you really think any dealership or independent garage, alignment shop, frame shop, etc. is going to have the correct 40-year-old technical references on hand? Not likely.
If you have a classic car worth $40K-$100K, $85.00 for all the correct technical references to maintain it doesn't seem unreasonable.