Painted Roof Adhesive Separation - Updated Bulletin
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Painted Roof Adhesive Separation - Updated Bulletin
Subject: 05112D - Customer Satisfaction Program
Painted Roof Adhesive Separation
Vehicle Population and Service Procedure Revised
Message #: WIR20060318
SERVICE AND PARTS OPERATIONS
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Date: June 23, 2006
Subject: 05112D – Customer Satisfaction Program
Painted Roof Adhesive Separation
Vehicle Population and Service Procedure Revised
Models: 2005-2006 Chevrolet Corvette with Painted Roof
To: All Chevrolet Dealers
Attention: Service Manager, Parts Manager
and Warranty Administrator
Customer Satisfaction Program Bulletin 05112C was released on June 7, 2006 via GM Administrative Message WIR20060307.
This bulletin is being revised to include Z06 model vehicles. A new service procedure and labor time have also been added.
A copy of revised bulletin 05112D is attached below. Please review the new information immediately and discard all copies of bulletin 05112C.
The Service Information System (SI) version of this bulletin will be available on June 24, 2006.
GMVIS information for the additional vehicles will be available on June 24, 2006.
Click here for the bulletin:
http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c5/ken...onbulletin.pdf
Painted Roof Adhesive Separation
Vehicle Population and Service Procedure Revised
Message #: WIR20060318
SERVICE AND PARTS OPERATIONS
DCS1613
URGENT - DISTRIBUTE IMMEDIATELY
Date: June 23, 2006
Subject: 05112D – Customer Satisfaction Program
Painted Roof Adhesive Separation
Vehicle Population and Service Procedure Revised
Models: 2005-2006 Chevrolet Corvette with Painted Roof
To: All Chevrolet Dealers
Attention: Service Manager, Parts Manager
and Warranty Administrator
Customer Satisfaction Program Bulletin 05112C was released on June 7, 2006 via GM Administrative Message WIR20060307.
This bulletin is being revised to include Z06 model vehicles. A new service procedure and labor time have also been added.
A copy of revised bulletin 05112D is attached below. Please review the new information immediately and discard all copies of bulletin 05112C.
The Service Information System (SI) version of this bulletin will be available on June 24, 2006.
GMVIS information for the additional vehicles will be available on June 24, 2006.
Click here for the bulletin:
http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c5/ken...onbulletin.pdf
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Thanks! Great pictures of the problem and what the dealer is actually supposed to be doing to solve it.
Is it just me or doesn't it look like the Z06 top could be made into a removeable top with a small amount of effort...
Is it just me or doesn't it look like the Z06 top could be made into a removeable top with a small amount of effort...
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Thanks, Ken. I wanted to inspect my own before I take it to the dealer. Most interesting initial item is the increase of the February VIN breakpoints, no longer limited to the first 46 2006's, as many CF'rs know already:
2005 Chevrolet Corvette 55100002 55135053
2006 Chevrolet Corvette 65100001 65131106
2005 Chevrolet Corvette 55100002 55135053
2006 Chevrolet Corvette 65100001 65131106
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Originally Posted by BigJoe
Thanks! Great pictures of the problem and what the dealer is actually supposed to be doing to solve it.
Is it just me or doesn't it look like the Z06 top could be made into a removeable top with a small amount of effort...
Is it just me or doesn't it look like the Z06 top could be made into a removeable top with a small amount of effort...
Now back on topic.
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Originally Posted by Another Yellow
VIN 31106 was built during the 4th week of May. That would mean the latest fix has been in place for about four weeks.
Jeez, maybe I owe the inept dealership that had crappy allocation some credit since that delayed my order by 8 weeks.
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Thanks, Ken. Fix doesn't seem very high tech. Why are dealers requiring weeks to test, fix and/or replace roofs? Some of us took our painted tops off and stored them when this episode started. Just because it doesn't show delamination, doesn't mean it won't when it goes back into use.
Policy clearly should be to replace all painted roofs manufactured with the faulty process.
Policy clearly should be to replace all painted roofs manufactured with the faulty process.
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Originally Posted by d_bravo33
Policy clearly should be to replace all painted roofs manufactured with the faulty process.
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Originally Posted by bullets1
So, who, within the VIN spread, have received letters?
I haven't.
I haven't.
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Originally Posted by Purdue94
I have yet to receive a recall letter! I am within the range as my VIN is 25899. Did I miss something or did it say that not all cars within the listed ranges are affected?????
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Originally Posted by dvu
Kindof have the same question. My car is now within the vin range. I only have 700 miles on it and am not having any problems. I'm getting the alignment fixed on my car this next week, should I have them look at the roof or just wait until I have a problem or at least get a letter?
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Originally Posted by BigJoe
Thanks! Great pictures of the problem and what the dealer is actually supposed to be doing to solve it.
Is it just me or doesn't it look like the Z06 top could be made into a removable top with a small amount of effort...
Is it just me or doesn't it look like the Z06 top could be made into a removable top with a small amount of effort...
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Originally Posted by VET4LES
When it's in for the alignment they will most likely look at the roof at the same time.
That's kindof what I figured as well. If that's the case should I come in with my transparent top on and my painted top in the back? I'd be **** about them applying some kindof glue and then slapping it back on my car.
Thanks again.
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Expanded VIN range on '06's and added Z06's...so...CC3 coupes and ' verts are the only C6's on the road not affected by this action...
31107 and up looks good too....
...still the same questionable fix though, so I wonder if 31107 and up just have the foam fill from the factory....
CC3 baby...CC3.
31107 and up looks good too....
...still the same questionable fix though, so I wonder if 31107 and up just have the foam fill from the factory....
CC3 baby...CC3.
Last edited by bub; 06-23-2006 at 08:02 PM.
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I just had my roof fixed, here's my story. Maybe someone can shed some light for me.
5K on the car, painted roof, creaked and groaned a LOT, every bump, and even changing speed (change in air pressure over the car.)
Took it in to the dealer (Freedom Chevy in San Antonio...great place BTW ). They declared it just needed the foam fill and not a new top. (not sure how they decide that.) They did the work on the top (didn't even have to touch/drive the car, which I like) in one afternoon. They guys said it was done but it had to "set up" for 3 hours and cure. I asked if it would be okay for me to drive it home (150 miles, on open TX roads so of course I'm going 70 ). He said no problem.
3 hours later I drive it home and the creaking and groaning top is almost perfect, no noise! yeah! But after a few hours of driving it begins to creak some. Not too bad, mainly with just bumps in the road. It is much better, but still kinda creaky (sp). I will call the servive Dept on monday to see what they say.
Is this okay? Does anyone else have any similar stories, advice? Does your top creak?
Thanks.
5K on the car, painted roof, creaked and groaned a LOT, every bump, and even changing speed (change in air pressure over the car.)
Took it in to the dealer (Freedom Chevy in San Antonio...great place BTW ). They declared it just needed the foam fill and not a new top. (not sure how they decide that.) They did the work on the top (didn't even have to touch/drive the car, which I like) in one afternoon. They guys said it was done but it had to "set up" for 3 hours and cure. I asked if it would be okay for me to drive it home (150 miles, on open TX roads so of course I'm going 70 ). He said no problem.
3 hours later I drive it home and the creaking and groaning top is almost perfect, no noise! yeah! But after a few hours of driving it begins to creak some. Not too bad, mainly with just bumps in the road. It is much better, but still kinda creaky (sp). I will call the servive Dept on monday to see what they say.
Is this okay? Does anyone else have any similar stories, advice? Does your top creak?
Thanks.
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This part is VERY interesting. Not only has the VIN range been increased to almost all 2006's, but it appears that ANY separation discovered in the inspection with a feeler gage qualifies for a temporary fix AND A NEW ROOF! That is the right thing to do. Thanks GM.
4. Inspect for proper adhesion by inserting a 0.254 mm (.010 in) feeler gage between the panel and the frame. Particular attention should be paid to the areas around the rear latch and the front corners. If the feeler gage fits between the panel and the frame, and the depth is 19.05 mm (.750 in) or greater, the roof panel has some degree of separation.
o If the feeler gage does not identify any area of the roof panel with separation, proceed to Step 5.
Page 11 June 2006 Bulletin No.: 05112D
o If less than 75 percent of the roof panel is separated from the frame, prepare the roof panel for the foam adhesive injection procedure. Refer to the section titled, Roof Panel Preparation for Roof Panels with Separation. This is a temporary repair that will prevent the separation of the roof panel. Submit the claim using labor code T5641, which will not close the program in GMVIS. When the roof panel is available, install the new roof panel and submit the claim using the appropriate V labor code, which will close the program in GMVIS.
Important: Inspect all roof panels, including new roof panels, to determine if the foam fill procedure has been completed. Perform the foam adhesive injection procedure on all new roof panels that have not been foam filled. Perform Steps 5-24 after removing the original roof panel and following the SI procedures listed in the table below.
o If more than 75 percent of the roof panel is separated from the frame, replace the roof panel. The SI procedures below may be used.
o If the feeler gage does not identify any area of the roof panel with separation, proceed to Step 5.
Page 11 June 2006 Bulletin No.: 05112D
o If less than 75 percent of the roof panel is separated from the frame, prepare the roof panel for the foam adhesive injection procedure. Refer to the section titled, Roof Panel Preparation for Roof Panels with Separation. This is a temporary repair that will prevent the separation of the roof panel. Submit the claim using labor code T5641, which will not close the program in GMVIS. When the roof panel is available, install the new roof panel and submit the claim using the appropriate V labor code, which will close the program in GMVIS.
Important: Inspect all roof panels, including new roof panels, to determine if the foam fill procedure has been completed. Perform the foam adhesive injection procedure on all new roof panels that have not been foam filled. Perform Steps 5-24 after removing the original roof panel and following the SI procedures listed in the table below.
o If more than 75 percent of the roof panel is separated from the frame, replace the roof panel. The SI procedures below may be used.