C6 Tech/Performance LS2, LS3, LS7, LS9 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Tech Topics, Basic Tech, Maintenance, How to Remove & Replace
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Tire pressure sensors on I-forged wheels - HELP!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-06-2006, 09:04 PM
  #1  
A427MAN
Pro
Thread Starter
 
A427MAN's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2005
Location: Costa Mesa So. Cal
Posts: 728
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Tire pressure sensors on I-forged wheels - HELP!

I'm getting some I-forged wheels. Anyone out there with I-forged wheels? - how did you deal with the sensors?

I believe I read somewhere that the stock stem sensors can't be used.

Please share your wisdom, info, and links!

Thanks in advance!
Old 06-06-2006, 11:25 PM
  #2  
0corvette pilot
Former Vendor
 
corvette pilot's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2005
Location: Loganville GA
Posts: 5,774
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Ogolden1
I'm getting some I-forged wheels. Anyone out there with I-forged wheels? - how did you deal with the sensors?

I believe I read somewhere that the stock stem sensors can't be used.

Please share your wisdom, info, and links!

Thanks in advance!
2 piece or 3 piece? Z51 or not?

2 piece, non Z-51
- you can use the stock sensors in their holes with 18/19 combo or bigger

2 piece, Z-51
- 18/19 need the front ones banded or epoxied in. I did both and still had one let go inside the tire. It didn't hurt the sensor at least. If you go 19 in front, you can still mount them as valve stems and they will clear. With 18s, you will need flush mount stems and have to take the wheels off the car to adjust air pressure. Its a major PITA and I wish I had got 19s up front now.

3 piece
- all have to be epoxy/banded.
Old 06-07-2006, 12:21 AM
  #3  
C6dude
Burning Brakes
 
C6dude's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2005
Location: Bloomingdale Illinois
Posts: 779
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

For I Forged wheels heres a tip on sensor mounting.
I have Iforged FS Classics. Heres how I mounted my sensors, I did not want the aggravation of going without them. Also since I'm running non run flats I want to know if I have a slow leak or am low on tire pressure. I'll be running the Hoosier R6 345/30/19 in the rear.

First I cut the valve stem off at the base of the aluminum.Then I used my rotory tool to cut a flat spot on the sensor body so the zip tie sits flat and secure.

I then cleaned a spot on the opposite side of the valve stem with alcohol and epoxied the sensor to the rim and used long zip ties for an extra saftey measure.The little hole on top of the little nipple is where the sensor reads pressure ( do not block it ). Hope this helps.



Old 06-07-2006, 01:26 AM
  #4  
A427MAN
Pro
Thread Starter
 
A427MAN's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2005
Location: Costa Mesa So. Cal
Posts: 728
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Thanks, guys!


These are for a C6Z06. 18/19 combo - using stock GY run flats.

C6 Dude: When you said you "cut the valve stem off at the base of the aluminum" ...does that mean you used the stock ones and modified them?

If not, where do you get them?

Also, where did you get that big zip tie? Is it one piece?

With that extra weight, is it harder to get the wheels balanced?

Since I'm using run-flats, if I just leave them out, am I going to get a
warning all the time?

What about resetting them?

Sorry for all the questions guys - this sensor thing is all new to me!

Your help is truely appreciated!

Ps: btw, WHY can't the stock one be installed in the Iforged wheels anyway?
Old 06-07-2006, 01:36 AM
  #5  
A427MAN
Pro
Thread Starter
 
A427MAN's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2005
Location: Costa Mesa So. Cal
Posts: 728
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by corvette pilot
With 18s, you will need flush mount stems and have to take the wheels off the car to adjust air pressure. Its a major PITA and I wish I had got 19s up front now.
Are you serious!!! I don't get it..why is that? Is that ONLY with I-forged, or with most aftermarket 3 pc wheels?

Why does it matter whether it's Z51, 2pc, or 3pc? ...the different styles have difference clearances?
Old 06-07-2006, 02:06 AM
  #6  
jmess
Pro
 
jmess's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2004
Location: Oregon
Posts: 608
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

At one point someone was saying the TPS valve stem is part of the sensor's antenna. Cutting it off may impact the range.
Old 06-07-2006, 02:10 AM
  #7  
C6dude
Burning Brakes
 
C6dude's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2005
Location: Bloomingdale Illinois
Posts: 779
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by Ogolden1
Thanks, guys!


These are for a C6Z06. 18/19 combo - using stock GY run flats.

C6 Dude: When you said you "cut the valve stem off at the base of the aluminum" ...does that mean you used the stock ones and modified them?

If not, where do you get them?

Also, where did you get that big zip tie? Is it one piece?

With that extra weight, is it harder to get the wheels balanced?

Since I'm using run-flats, if I just leave them out, am I going to get a
warning all the time?

What about resetting them?

Sorry for all the questions guys - this sensor thing is all new to me!

Your help is truely appreciated!

Ps: btw, WHY can't the stock one be installed in the Iforged wheels anyway?
They are the stock sensors modified . The Zip ties you can get at Home depot or HVAC supply store,they use them for ductwork.They will have no effect on balancing.I put my sensors on the opposite side of the valve stem to offset it's weight.The Zip ties are very light.
If you are using Run flats I would definitely use a sensor. It is very hard to tell if you are very low or flat with the stiff side walls. You could end up loosing it on an exit ramp or sharp turn and doing some doughnuts or even worse. If you do run without them you have to reset them every 100 miles or you will get a warning and it will put you in limp mode.
Old 06-07-2006, 02:14 AM
  #8  
C6dude
Burning Brakes
 
C6dude's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2005
Location: Bloomingdale Illinois
Posts: 779
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by jmess
At one point someone was saying the TPS valve stem is part of the sensor's antenna. Cutting it off may impact the range.

Thats bull !!! Even if it was true they still work. I have a friend with them on for 6 months now with no problems .
Old 06-07-2006, 02:26 AM
  #9  
A427MAN
Pro
Thread Starter
 
A427MAN's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2005
Location: Costa Mesa So. Cal
Posts: 728
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

C6dude: Sounds good - THANKS!

One last thing - if you place the same sensors in each wheel - keeping track of Front Right, FL, RR, RL, do you have to reset them, or will they work fine?
Old 06-07-2006, 02:47 AM
  #10  
C6dude
Burning Brakes
 
C6dude's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2005
Location: Bloomingdale Illinois
Posts: 779
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by Ogolden1
C6dude: Sounds good - THANKS!

One last thing - if you place the same sensors in each wheel - keeping track of Front Right, FL, RR, RL, do you have to reset them, or will they work fine?
They will work fine if you don't mix them up.
Old 06-07-2006, 05:43 AM
  #11  
shopdog
Race Director
 
shopdog's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2004
Posts: 10,089
Likes: 0
Received 10 Likes on 10 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by C6dude
Thats bull !!! Even if it was true they still work. I have a friend with them on for 6 months now with no problems .
No bull. The stems are the antennas. That's the only part that sticks outside the RF shielding of the metal wheels and steel belted tires in a stock setup. Chevy even cautions you not to put aftermarket valve caps on the stems, because it may adversely affect the signals from the TPS.

They may still work with the antenna cut off and the whole sensor hidden in the RF shield of wheel and tire, but it will be a marginal signal situation. Don't be surprised if they fail when the voltage of their batteries starts to sag as the batteries age. The batteries are non-replaceable, you have to replace the whole sensor when the battery runs down to the point the car can't receive the signal. Normally, that should take several years, but if you've reduced the sensors' ability to radiate a signal, it'll likely happen much sooner.
Old 06-07-2006, 11:47 AM
  #12  
C6dude
Burning Brakes
 
C6dude's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2005
Location: Bloomingdale Illinois
Posts: 779
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by shopdog
No bull. The stems are the antennas. That's the only part that sticks outside the RF shielding of the metal wheels and steel belted tires in a stock setup. Chevy even cautions you not to put aftermarket valve caps on the stems, because it may adversely affect the signals from the TPS.

They may still work with the antenna cut off and the whole sensor hidden in the RF shield of wheel and tire, but it will be a marginal signal situation. Don't be surprised if they fail when the voltage of their batteries starts to sag as the batteries age. The batteries are non-replaceable, you have to replace the whole sensor when the battery runs down to the point the car can't receive the signal. Normally, that should take several years, but if you've reduced the sensors' ability to radiate a signal, it'll likely happen much sooner.

I understand your philosophy with the cutting of the stems/antenaes on the signal fading with time,but do you know this from first hand experience or a forum post you can link us to? A lot of people are cutting them off with no problems posted so far that I can find.The stock TPS sensors are suppose to last 8-10 years with the average lasting about 8 years.They are using RF signals so IMO being so close to the computer should not have a big impact on distance. I will take my chances and keep everybody posted if they fail prematurely on my wheels. There was somebody else that did the same thing on the DC forum about a year ago with no problems, I cannot find the post to link you guys. But If you are correct time will tell, we'll all see soon.
Old 06-07-2006, 12:30 PM
  #13  
valdeztke
Le Mans Master
 
valdeztke's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2005
Location: Alexandria VA
Posts: 6,344
Likes: 0
Received 19 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

I mixed mine up none of them are in the right places!!!!
Old 06-07-2006, 02:10 PM
  #14  
NineBall
Safety Car
 
NineBall's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2000
Location: Houston TX
Posts: 3,697
Received 107 Likes on 58 Posts

Default

I've had the nipples cut off of the sensors for several months now, no problems. I just epoxied them into that wheel groove, but I like the zip-tie idea too.

Ogolden, the stems on these aftermarket 2/3-pc wheels have their inflation valve holes on the inside of the wheel. The larger brakes on the front interfere with that location since the stems are somewhat long. So, we mount them inside the wheel and just put a short stem on the hole instead.
Old 06-07-2006, 07:27 PM
  #15  
Dub Silverado
Advanced
 
Dub Silverado's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2006
Posts: 94
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

So for a z51 that I upgrade the wheels and dont use runflats on the new wheels do i still need to use the sensor?
Old 06-07-2006, 10:30 PM
  #16  
C6dude
Burning Brakes
 
C6dude's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2005
Location: Bloomingdale Illinois
Posts: 779
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by Dub Silverado
So for a z51 that I upgrade the wheels and dont use runflats on the new wheels do i still need to use the sensor?
Yes, you still do.Unless you don't mind resetting your computer every 100 miles.
Old 06-07-2006, 10:31 PM
  #17  
Dub Silverado
Advanced
 
Dub Silverado's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2006
Posts: 94
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by C6dude
Yes, you still do.Unless you don't mind resetting your computer every 100 miles.
no no thats retarted. I plan to get gfg 19s and 20s is there a way to order them so they will just bolt on and i wont need to glue and strap?

Get notified of new replies

To Tire pressure sensors on I-forged wheels - HELP!

Old 06-07-2006, 10:59 PM
  #18  
NineBall
Safety Car
 
NineBall's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2000
Location: Houston TX
Posts: 3,697
Received 107 Likes on 58 Posts

Default

19s up front might have clearance for the stems. Guess you won't know until you get the wheels, then you can decide to use the normal mounting setup or cut/clue them in the wheel.
Old 06-07-2006, 11:05 PM
  #19  
C6dude
Burning Brakes
 
C6dude's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2005
Location: Bloomingdale Illinois
Posts: 779
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by Dub Silverado
no no thats retarted. I plan to get gfg 19s and 20s is there a way to order them so they will just bolt on and i wont need to glue and strap?
I don't know of any company making any Universal TPS sensors that will work on all cars and aftermarket wheel types. Unless your rims have the stem holes on the outside lips so your factory sensor sits flush up against the barrel of the wheel (so it wont get damaged during mounting) you have to cut it and at least epoxy it in the wheel groove like the rest of us. Good Luck.
Old 06-29-2006, 02:50 AM
  #20  
big bollas
Melting Slicks
 
big bollas's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2002
Location: Pearland Tx
Posts: 2,259
Likes: 0
Received 28 Likes on 20 Posts

Default

I am about to do this has anything changed


Quick Reply: Tire pressure sensors on I-forged wheels - HELP!



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:02 PM.