[Z06] Hoosier announced 19" comp tires
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Hoosier announced 19" comp tires
325/19's should be shipping in a month.
http://www.hoosiertire.com/pb401706.HTM
http://www.hoosiertire.com/pb401706.HTM
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Since they are "DOT" can you drive 2 hours to the track and then back on these tires?
Looks like $65 cheaper for rears than the stock street tires ($415 from tire rack), and don't know how much cheaper for the front Hoosiers.
Looks like $65 cheaper for rears than the stock street tires ($415 from tire rack), and don't know how much cheaper for the front Hoosiers.
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[QUOTE=Mako7]Since they are "DOT" can you drive 2 hours to the track and then back on these tires?
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
I guess at the very least, it would use up some of the "heat cycles" on the tires.
But will the PO-lice pull me over for driving on freeways or surface streets with Hoosiers?
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
I guess at the very least, it would use up some of the "heat cycles" on the tires.
But will the PO-lice pull me over for driving on freeways or surface streets with Hoosiers?
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[QUOTE=Mako7]
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm
Originally Posted by Mako7
Since they are "DOT" can you drive 2 hours to the track and then back on these tires?
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
I guess at the very least, it would use up some of the "heat cycles" on the tires.
But will the PO-lice pull me over for driving on freeways or surface streets with Hoosiers?
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
I guess at the very least, it would use up some of the "heat cycles" on the tires.
But will the PO-lice pull me over for driving on freeways or surface streets with Hoosiers?
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[QUOTE=Mako7]
From the tirerack website:
WARNING: DOT labeled Hoosier Racing Tires meet Department of Transportation requirements for marking and performance only and are NOT INTENDED FOR HIGHWAY USE. It is unsafe to operate any Hoosier Racing Tire including DOT tires on public roads. The prohibited use of Hoosier Racing Tires on public roadways may result in loss of traction, unexpected loss of vehicle control, or sudden loss of tire pressure, resulting in a vehicle crash and possibly injury or death.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....ireModel=A3S05
Originally Posted by Mako7
Since they are "DOT" can you drive 2 hours to the track and then back on these tires?
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
WARNING: DOT labeled Hoosier Racing Tires meet Department of Transportation requirements for marking and performance only and are NOT INTENDED FOR HIGHWAY USE. It is unsafe to operate any Hoosier Racing Tire including DOT tires on public roads. The prohibited use of Hoosier Racing Tires on public roadways may result in loss of traction, unexpected loss of vehicle control, or sudden loss of tire pressure, resulting in a vehicle crash and possibly injury or death.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....ireModel=A3S05
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[QUOTE=Short-Throw]
From the tirerack website:
WARNING: DOT labeled Hoosier Racing Tires meet Department of Transportation requirements for marking and performance only and are NOT INTENDED FOR HIGHWAY USE. It is unsafe to operate any Hoosier Racing Tire including DOT tires on public roads. The prohibited use of Hoosier Racing Tires on public roadways may result in loss of traction, unexpected loss of vehicle control, or sudden loss of tire pressure, resulting in a vehicle crash and possibly injury or death.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....ireModel=A3S05
Wow that is different than I thought.Thanks for the info.
Originally Posted by Mako7
From the tirerack website:
WARNING: DOT labeled Hoosier Racing Tires meet Department of Transportation requirements for marking and performance only and are NOT INTENDED FOR HIGHWAY USE. It is unsafe to operate any Hoosier Racing Tire including DOT tires on public roads. The prohibited use of Hoosier Racing Tires on public roadways may result in loss of traction, unexpected loss of vehicle control, or sudden loss of tire pressure, resulting in a vehicle crash and possibly injury or death.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....ireModel=A3S05
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[QUOTE=Short-Throw]
From the tirerack website:
WARNING: DOT labeled Hoosier Racing Tires meet Department of Transportation requirements for marking and performance only and are NOT INTENDED FOR HIGHWAY USE. It is unsafe to operate any Hoosier Racing Tire including DOT tires on public roads. The prohibited use of Hoosier Racing Tires on public roadways may result in loss of traction, unexpected loss of vehicle control, or sudden loss of tire pressure, resulting in a vehicle crash and possibly injury or death.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....ireModel=A3S05
That was written by a lawyer who is paid to cover Tire rack's ***. That way, when some mental midget is out on his hoosiers, and hits standing water, slides sideways, and takes out a school bus stop full of children, he can't sue them for selling him "unsafe" tires.
Driven on dry pavement, you'll be fine. Don't get caught in the rain, and don't hit standing water. Oh, and you'll probably chew up your car from all the rocks you'll throw against it.
Originally Posted by Mako7
From the tirerack website:
WARNING: DOT labeled Hoosier Racing Tires meet Department of Transportation requirements for marking and performance only and are NOT INTENDED FOR HIGHWAY USE. It is unsafe to operate any Hoosier Racing Tire including DOT tires on public roads. The prohibited use of Hoosier Racing Tires on public roadways may result in loss of traction, unexpected loss of vehicle control, or sudden loss of tire pressure, resulting in a vehicle crash and possibly injury or death.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....ireModel=A3S05
Driven on dry pavement, you'll be fine. Don't get caught in the rain, and don't hit standing water. Oh, and you'll probably chew up your car from all the rocks you'll throw against it.
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Originally Posted by YELLOHHH
That was written by a lawyer who is paid to cover Tire rack's ***. That way, when some mental midget is out on his hoosiers, and hits standing water, slides sideways, and takes out a school bus stop full of children, he can't sue them for selling him "unsafe" tires.
Driven on dry pavement, you'll be fine. Don't get caught in the rain, and don't hit standing water. Oh, and you'll probably chew up your car from all the rocks you'll throw against it.
Remember these tires need heat and even on dry pavement they can lose traction. A short drive somewhere will leave the tires cold. (Granted summer months should be okay) Debris on the road or dusty construction areas can be treacherous for not only when you're moving but if you have to panic stop as well.
A longer trip on the highway should be fine in dry weather.
I'm running Pilot Sport Cups which actually have a few grooves and they have been slippery before warming up.
Same rules apply as snow, etc...exercise caution!
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would these tires be good to put on the back of the zo6? would they work like a drag radial? just want to know if they would work better than any street tire for off the line traction.
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Hmmm... .
I will take this info as a "NO" to using the Hoosiers to drive to the track. This means I am running street tires for now!
Btw, the Hoosier disclaimer definitely makes me feel less than 100% confident using them at the track!
I will take this info as a "NO" to using the Hoosiers to drive to the track. This means I am running street tires for now!
Btw, the Hoosier disclaimer definitely makes me feel less than 100% confident using them at the track!
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Originally Posted by Short-Throw
This may be true but water isn't the only enemy.
Remember these tires need heat and even on dry pavement they can lose traction. A short drive somewhere will leave the tires cold. (Granted summer months should be okay) Debris on the road or dusty construction areas can be treacherous for not only when you're moving but if you have to panic stop as well.
Remember these tires need heat and even on dry pavement they can lose traction. A short drive somewhere will leave the tires cold. (Granted summer months should be okay) Debris on the road or dusty construction areas can be treacherous for not only when you're moving but if you have to panic stop as well.
Originally Posted by Short-Throw
I'm running Pilot Sport Cups which actually have a few grooves and they have been slippery before warming up.
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Originally Posted by YELLOHHH
All good points.
I'm debating between Pilot Cups and RA1's for my next set of tires. I was leaning towards the Toyos because of price. Did you consider the Toyos at all, and if so, what made you go with the Cups?
I'm debating between Pilot Cups and RA1's for my next set of tires. I was leaning towards the Toyos because of price. Did you consider the Toyos at all, and if so, what made you go with the Cups?
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Originally Posted by Short-Throw
The shop that is doing my work all have SCCA experience. They all run Pilot Sport Cups and love them. I know the are costly but this is what the racers are using so I went with them. So far they have been great I don't know how much the Toyo's cost but price never entered he equation.
What sizes are you running?
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Originally Posted by YELLOHHH
What sizes are you running?
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I have been running Hoosier DOT R and Rs for 3 years now.
These tires use are measured in heat cycles not miles. Each time your tire is up to opporating temp and pressuer that is a heat cycle. Driving to and from the track is one heat cycle each. and if you stop for breakfest on the way to the track add another heat cycle.
So how many heat cycles do you get?? Not what you guys may be hoping for.
For ultimit traction, 2 to 4 heat cycles, 5-10 heat cycles there is very good traction, 11-15 is OK traction. Over 15 heat cycles, traction is marginal on the corners, but still better then street tires.
Now lets look at a weekend.
three 25-30 min sessions a day that is 3 heat cycles
so two day event is 6 heat cycles.
two weekends are 12 heat cycles
three weekends are 18 heat cycles. Get the idea ??
for good traction I use them 3 weekends, for OK traction I use them 5 to 6 weekends, but speeds are much slower.
If you do a lot of trail braking that means more rubber will come off. Oh be prepared to use lots of 3M Trim Adheasive remover to get those wonderful black rubber streaks off you rocker pannels, fender wells, mirrors and your hood from bouncing rubber pieces (track turds). Not to mention the sand blasting on the same rocker pannels and wheel wells. No painters tape does not help, 3M clear adheasive helps some.
I have had track turds bounce though my drivers window and hit my chin gaurd on my helmet too.
Now if you get stones or grass stuck in that soft rubber, be prepared to scrape them out with a pocket knife.
i.e. dont drive them to the track
Hoosier VRLs on left - Mich PS on right
18x305/30f & 18x335/30r - 18x275/35f & 18x335/30r
These tires use are measured in heat cycles not miles. Each time your tire is up to opporating temp and pressuer that is a heat cycle. Driving to and from the track is one heat cycle each. and if you stop for breakfest on the way to the track add another heat cycle.
So how many heat cycles do you get?? Not what you guys may be hoping for.
For ultimit traction, 2 to 4 heat cycles, 5-10 heat cycles there is very good traction, 11-15 is OK traction. Over 15 heat cycles, traction is marginal on the corners, but still better then street tires.
Now lets look at a weekend.
three 25-30 min sessions a day that is 3 heat cycles
so two day event is 6 heat cycles.
two weekends are 12 heat cycles
three weekends are 18 heat cycles. Get the idea ??
for good traction I use them 3 weekends, for OK traction I use them 5 to 6 weekends, but speeds are much slower.
If you do a lot of trail braking that means more rubber will come off. Oh be prepared to use lots of 3M Trim Adheasive remover to get those wonderful black rubber streaks off you rocker pannels, fender wells, mirrors and your hood from bouncing rubber pieces (track turds). Not to mention the sand blasting on the same rocker pannels and wheel wells. No painters tape does not help, 3M clear adheasive helps some.
I have had track turds bounce though my drivers window and hit my chin gaurd on my helmet too.
Now if you get stones or grass stuck in that soft rubber, be prepared to scrape them out with a pocket knife.
i.e. dont drive them to the track
Hoosier VRLs on left - Mich PS on right
18x305/30f & 18x335/30r - 18x275/35f & 18x335/30r
Last edited by AU N EGL; 04-26-2006 at 07:39 PM.