Poll:How Many '06 dead batteries so far?
02-04-2006, 12:11 PM
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whups pressed the wrong vote button yes I have had a mn6 o6 dead battery
02-04-2006, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by dashotgun
whups pressed the wrong vote button yes I have had a mn6 o6 dead battery
I wonder if there's a way to edit or change that vote....
02-04-2006, 07:57 PM
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You are starting this again, even after that huge meaningless DBS discussion, which I thought once and for all ended yesterday. No doubt after this survey is over, you will conclude that 25% of all 2005 MN6's have a battery problem and it is directly traceable to the dreaded DBS. You have plunged off the deep end once more.
The info you get from this poll will be useless bscause you will certainly get responses from people with problems and most of us who do not have battery problems will likely ignore the invitation to submit a response.
Please don't do a repitition of your last statistical analysis. If you get X number of positive responses, what will it mean? You will likely extrapolate it into some ridiculous conclusion. DO NOT DO AN ANALYSIS OF THESE NUMBERS, YOU ARE A STATISTICAL DUNCE.
Hoonose, you have DBS, I will let you figure out what that means. Hint: "B" does not = Battery
For those of you who do not understand what I am driving at with this post, allow me to clarify the matter. Hoonse has stated in another post yesterday, that "25-30% of all 2005 MN6 cars have been affected with DBS" (Dead Battery Syndrome). This amounts to about 5,000 cars and it is a stupid conclusion that is completely unsupported by the facts. But he likes to play with the numbers and he seems to want to turn small problems into what appear to be crisis problems.
You are starting this again, even after that huge meaningless DBS discussion, which I thought once and for all ended yesterday. No doubt after this survey is over, you will conclude that 25% of all 2005 MN6's have a battery problem and it is directly traceable to the dreaded DBS. You have plunged off the deep end once more.
The info you get from this poll will be useless bscause you will certainly get responses from people with problems and most of us who do not have battery problems will likely ignore the invitation to submit a response.
Please don't do a repitition of your last statistical analysis. If you get X number of positive responses, what will it mean? You will likely extrapolate it into some ridiculous conclusion. DO NOT DO AN ANALYSIS OF THESE NUMBERS, YOU ARE A STATISTICAL DUNCE.
Hoonose, you have DBS, I will let you figure out what that means. Hint: "B" does not = Battery
For those of you who do not understand what I am driving at with this post, allow me to clarify the matter. Hoonse has stated in another post yesterday, that "25-30% of all 2005 MN6 cars have been affected with DBS" (Dead Battery Syndrome). This amounts to about 5,000 cars and it is a stupid conclusion that is completely unsupported by the facts. But he likes to play with the numbers and he seems to want to turn small problems into what appear to be crisis problems.
02-04-2006, 08:02 PM
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Where are you, Noonse is trying to do some kind of comparison between the 2005 and 2006 battery problems. I don't trust Hoonse with numbers, I bet he can't even balance his checkbook.
Where are you, Noonse is trying to do some kind of comparison between the 2005 and 2006 battery problems. I don't trust Hoonse with numbers, I bet he can't even balance his checkbook.
02-04-2006, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DANNOV
DSOM Z51
Where are you, Noonse is trying to do some kind of comparison between the 2005 and 2006 battery problems. I don't trust Hoonse with numbers, I bet he can't even balance his checkbook.
Where are you, Noonse is trying to do some kind of comparison between the 2005 and 2006 battery problems. I don't trust Hoonse with numbers, I bet he can't even balance his checkbook.
The point is to show that are few battery problems in '06's.
And I haven't used a checkbook in many years.
There's no point, as she spends it quicker than I can deposit it!
02-04-2006, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DANNOV
Hoonose
You are starting this again, even after that huge meaningless DBS discussion, which I thought once and for all ended yesterday. No doubt after this survey is over, you will conclude that 25% of all 2005 MN6's have a battery problem and it is directly traceable to the dreaded DBS. You have plunged off the deep end once more.
The info you get from this poll will be useless bscause you will certainly get responses from people with problems and most of us who do not have battery problems will likely ignore the invitation to submit a response.
Please don't do a repitition of your last statistical analysis. If you get X number of positive responses, what will it mean? You will likely extrapolate it into some ridiculous conclusion. DO NOT DO AN ANALYSIS OF THESE NUMBERS, YOU ARE A STATISTICAL DUNCE.
Hoonose, you have DBS, I will let you figure out what that means. Hint: "B" does not = Battery
For those of you who do not understand what I am driving at with this post, allow me to clarify the matter. Hoonse has stated in another post yesterday, that "25-30% of all 2005 MN6 cars have been affected with DBS" (Dead Battery Syndrome). This amounts to about 5,000 cars and it is a stupid conclusion that is completely unsupported by the facts. But he likes to play with the numbers and he seems to want to turn small problems into what appear to be crisis problems.
You are starting this again, even after that huge meaningless DBS discussion, which I thought once and for all ended yesterday. No doubt after this survey is over, you will conclude that 25% of all 2005 MN6's have a battery problem and it is directly traceable to the dreaded DBS. You have plunged off the deep end once more.
The info you get from this poll will be useless bscause you will certainly get responses from people with problems and most of us who do not have battery problems will likely ignore the invitation to submit a response.
Please don't do a repitition of your last statistical analysis. If you get X number of positive responses, what will it mean? You will likely extrapolate it into some ridiculous conclusion. DO NOT DO AN ANALYSIS OF THESE NUMBERS, YOU ARE A STATISTICAL DUNCE.
Hoonose, you have DBS, I will let you figure out what that means. Hint: "B" does not = Battery
For those of you who do not understand what I am driving at with this post, allow me to clarify the matter. Hoonse has stated in another post yesterday, that "25-30% of all 2005 MN6 cars have been affected with DBS" (Dead Battery Syndrome). This amounts to about 5,000 cars and it is a stupid conclusion that is completely unsupported by the facts. But he likes to play with the numbers and he seems to want to turn small problems into what appear to be crisis problems.
But I say let him go. Its really pathetic when you think about it. He has spent countless hours and energy trying to convince himself and others that "Dead Battery Syndrome" is a crisis of gargantuan proportions.He has been here and on Digital Corvettes discussing this "issue".
DBS in '05s is being recognized for what it is. PBS. ....Plain BS.
Sure, there are people whose batteries have died inexplicably. But many if not most of those instances can be attributed to improper shut down of the car, bad battery from the factory, aftermarket equipment such as radar detectors, cell phones, etc.
But I say let him go.
With him spearheading the campaign , with ridiculous, implausable, tall tales and ideas about some strange anomoly called "DBS" effecting 1/4 to 1/3 of all '05 manual C6 Vettes, this "dead battery syndrome" BS will take it's rightful place on the credibility list.
Right under alien abductions, Bigfoot and the Cyclops.
He will conduct another poll and Hoonose. From this one he may be able to conclude that there is life on Mars.
So I say let him go.
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02-04-2006, 08:25 PM
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Good thread. Let's keep it alive so we can get a handle on the true number of 06 battery failures. I have yet to see a "true" case of DBS (as we defined it for the 05's) in an 06 but there have been a handful of dead batteries. I think those have been for other non-DBS reasons in the 06's though.
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02-04-2006, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mikeyc6
Good thread. Let's keep it alive so we can get a handle on the true number of 06 battery failures. I have yet to see a "true" case of DBS (as we defined it for the 05's) in an 06 but there have been a handful of dead batteries. I think those have been for other non-DBS reasons in the 06's though.
Mike
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That "definition" is a joke.
According to some, DBS can "only" affect '05 manuals because of how " we defined it for the 05's"
That definition is a joke.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...post1553802590
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...post1553805206
As such an '06 with a battery as dead as Richard Pryor could not have had an occurence of "DBS" for the simple reason that it is not an '05..
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02-04-2006, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by timd38
I know the battery supplier and dead batteries on the 06 is only a small percentage of 05.
Can you get more data or information from the supplier for us?
Maybe some more specific numbers for each year, or per car sold.
Or even maybe MN6 vs automatic battery replacement percentage for each year.
Those numbers would be very helpful.
Thanks!
02-04-2006, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoonose
Interesting.
Can you get more data or information from the supplier for us?
Maybe some more specific numbers for each year, or per car sold.
Or even maybe MN6 vs automatic battery replacement percentage for each year.
Those numbers would be very helpful.
Thanks!
Can you get more data or information from the supplier for us?
Maybe some more specific numbers for each year, or per car sold.
Or even maybe MN6 vs automatic battery replacement percentage for each year.
Those numbers would be very helpful.
Thanks!
Like they say, never buy a first year model, GM keeps validating why.
Last edited by timd38; 02-04-2006 at 08:52 PM.
02-04-2006, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DSOM Z51
But I say let him go. Its really pathetic when you think about it. He has spent countless hours and energy trying to convince himself and others that "Dead Battery Syndrome" is a crisis of gargantuan proportions.He has been here and on Digital Corvettes discussing this "issue".
DBS in '05s is being recognized for what it is. PBS. ....Plain BS.
Sure, there are people whose batteries have died inexplicably. But many if not most of those instances can be attributed to improper shut down of the car, bad battery from the factory, aftermarket equipment such as radar detectors, cell phones, etc.
But I say let him go.
With him spearheading the campaign , with ridiculous, implausable, tall tales and ideas about some strange anomoly called "DBS" effecting 1/4 to 1/3 of all '05 manual C6 Vettes, this "dead battery syndrome" BS will take it's rightful place on the credibility list.
Right under alien abductions, Bigfoot and the Cyclops.
He will conduct another poll and Hoonose. From this one he may be able to conclude that there is life on Mars.
So I say let him go.
02-04-2006, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 78PC
My 3 DBS episodes had nothing to do with improper shutdown. It had more to do with poor design or faulty parts! I doubt that most cases of DBS can be attributed to improper shutdown. Most vet owners ago overboard they are so ****. That sounds like GM's explanation. There is a problem and it's unlikely a dealership will solve the problem. I'm the fool for running off and buying a new design in the first year.
02-04-2006, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 78PC
My 3 DBS episodes had nothing to do with improper shutdown. It had more to do with poor design or faulty parts! I doubt that most cases of DBS can be attributed to improper shutdown. Most vet owners ago overboard they are so ****. That sounds like GM's explanation. There is a problem and it's unlikely a dealership will solve the problem. I'm the fool for running off and buying a new design in the first year.
Yes, there probably is a 2005 DBS problem; but Noonse is claiming that 25-30% of all 2005 MN6 cars have experienced DBS, that is about 5,000 cars. That number of cars is huge! You have to look at his other posts to see that claim. He has no numbers to back up his estimate. Noonose has DBS on the brain, and he can't let this go, and go onto other things, and he can't admit that he has overestimated the extent of the problem. Kind of like an obsession with DBS.
02-04-2006, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DANNOV
78PC
Yes, there probably is a 2005 DBS problem; but Noonse is claiming that 25-30% of all 2005 MN6 cars have experienced DBS, that is about 5,000 cars. That number of cars is huge! You have to look at his other posts to see that claim. He has no numbers to back up his estimate. Noonose has DBS on the brain, and he can't let this go, and go onto other things, and he can't admit that he has overestimated the extent of the problem. Kind of like an obsession with DBS.
Yes, there probably is a 2005 DBS problem; but Noonse is claiming that 25-30% of all 2005 MN6 cars have experienced DBS, that is about 5,000 cars. That number of cars is huge! You have to look at his other posts to see that claim. He has no numbers to back up his estimate. Noonose has DBS on the brain, and he can't let this go, and go onto other things, and he can't admit that he has overestimated the extent of the problem. Kind of like an obsession with DBS.
02-04-2006, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoonose
Are you reading timd38's posts above?